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    NYC is illegally shipping homeless families upstate

    Officials say NYC is illegally shipping homeless families upstate

    By Chris Perez
    March 8, 2018 | 9:47pm | Updated

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    The de Blasio administration is illegally shipping homeless families off to unsuspecting, upstate towns with a year of free rent — forcing those municipalities to pick up the rest of their living expenses, Broome County officials said Thursday.

    At least five families have been sent to Broome in recent months, and officials there issued an ultimatum — either end the Special One Time Assistance Program, known as SOTA, or face civil and possibly even criminal litigation.


    “We’ve put New York City on notice,” seethed Broome County Executive Jason Garnar, one of several officials to call out the city on Thursday during a public press conference, which was broadcast live on Facebook by WBNG.


    “This is illegal — and it ends today,” he said.


    “New York City is avoiding their responsibility to provide these people assistance and transferring their government responsibilities right here to Broome County taxpayers,” Garnar added. “One year rent is paid up front by New York City, then New York City abandons them and they now become the responsibility of Broome County.”


    According to local officials, the NYC Human Resources Administration — which is responsible for the SOTA program — is in “direct contradiction” to New York state social services law 148, which is a criminal statute.


    It states that “no person shall, without legal authority, send or bring, or cause to be sent or brought, any needy person into a public welfare district with the purpose of making him a charge on such public welfare district, or for the purpose of avoiding the responsibility of assistance or care in the public welfare district from which he is brought or sent.”


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    “We realized this was occurring because one of our DSS supervisors was noticing a trend where recipients were coming in to DSS to apply for services and were reporting that they didn’t need help with their rental payments because their rent had been paid for for an entire year by the [HRA],” explained Nancy Williams, commissioner of the Department of Social Services.

    “That caused our supervisor to question that because it didn’t seem right, it just didn’t seem within the law,” Williams said. “It was something she had not ever seen before.”


    Thanks to the DSS worker’s diligence, the secret SOTA refugees were uncovered last week by county officials, who then brought the issue to the attention of their legal council. A thorough investigation was conducted and social services later confirmed that the families had come from a Big Apple homeless shelter as part of the SOTA program.


    “Their rent had been prepaid — at an even higher rate than we normally would pay — to entice these homeless residents, these homeless folks from New York City to move up here,” Williams said. “So, although their rent has been paid for, they can receive other benefits from Broome County. They can receive SNAP benefits for their food, they can receive medical assistance and they can also receive utility support, to pay their utilities. So although New York City paid their rent for a year, we would be responsible for paying for other assistance programs.


    “That could place a burden on Broome County,” Williams added. “It is our responsibility to take care of our residents and, as Jason mentioned, it is New York City’s responsibility to take care of their residents. This is really pushing the responsibility onto Broome County and it could really be taxing towards our resources, as well as our budget. If after a year, [the homeless residents] are still here, more than likely they will come back to DSS and they will need rental subsidy if they’re not employed. And if they’re eligible, we will need to then pay their rent after a year.”


    To make up for the five families currently living in Broome — and “any other cases that may be identified” — local officials have asked the city to compensate them “for ongoing assistance costs incurred.”


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    They are also asking the de Blasio administration to immediately stop using the SOTA program or any other process to “illegally transfer its homeless people to Broome County.”

    Officials believe they’ve been shipping homeless families off for months.


    “We believe it’s happening throughout upstate New York,” explained Deputy Broome County attorney Howard Schultz, who is also chief attorney for the Department of Social Services.


    “These families should have never been, basically excommunicated from New York City,” he said. “New York City has a homeless problem. Broome County and every county, to some degree has a homeless problem. [But] Broome County takes its homeless problem seriously, and not cynically like New York City does.


    “In Broome County, we inspect our homeless shelters to make sure they are safe and secure for indigent homeless people,” Schultz said.

    “New York City, as reported, has serious problems in this area.

    There’s all kinds of crime that occurs in their homeless shelters and other undesirable outcomes for people in that shelter system in New York City…They don’t take [the issue] serious enough.”


    Broome officials reached out to the de Blasio administration last week and made their demands, according to Schultz.


    He said the city confirmed that five families were sent upstate, but wouldn’t comment on other cases.


    City officials told The Post that they’ve been using relocation programs since as far back as the Koch administration — and that no one is being “illegally” transferred.


    “Homeless families seeking housing where they can afford it and employment where they can find it should have access to those opportunities to get back on their feet,” said City Hall spokesman Isaac McGinn. “We’re helping families that have found housing transition out of shelter, as we’ve been doing with different programs for decades.”


    The SOTA program was quietly launched last fall in part with “Project Reconnect,” which grants an all-expenses paid trip to anyone who’s been in the shelter system for at least 90 days and has a source of income. Over the past five years, the city has shelled out more than $1 million in travel expenses for 2,512 families — with each one relocating outside the five boroughs.

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    So de Blasio wants to get credit for welcoming the poor, illegal aliens, and homeless, but farm out the cost of supporting them to others. Typical leftist practice, spending other people's money!
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    N.Y.'s homeless solution: a one-way ticket - The Globe and Mail

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    Jul 29, 2009 - Former mayor Ed Koch tried to buy the Gibber Hotel in the Catskill Mountains during the late 1980s, in an ill-fated attempt to ship 600 homeless men out of Manhattan. When Rudy Giuliani ruled the city, he took a tougher approach, using police sweeps to arrest some of the homeless and force others into ...
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    Homeless Relocations From New York City

    The most popular US mainland destinations were two cities in the South: Orlando, Florida, 779 and Atlanta, Georgia, 775.
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    Around 650 were flown for foreign countries.


    New Zealand

    Guam

    Philippines

    India

    Nigeria

    France

    Mexico

    Dominican Republic

    NYC Longest journey Wellington, New Zealand (8,944 mi)

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    2,350 were flown to Puerto Rico.


    Homeless relocations from New York City

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    "Last year, the top destinations were Florida, Puerto Rico and North Carolina"

    N.Y.City offering to pay homeless a year’s worth of rent if they leave town

    By Yoav Gonen
    September 29, 2017 | 9:04pm

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    The city wants the homeless to get out of town — and is offering to pay a full year’s rent to those willing to abandon the five boroughs.

    Under a pilot program quietly launched last month, shelter residents who have been in the system for at least 90 days and have a source of income can get 12 months of rent paid up-front virtually anywhere they can find an apartment.


    Their travel expenses to vamoose would also be paid under a program already in place known as Project Reconnect.


    “The plan to send some families outside of New York City only speaks to the devastating lack of affordable housing here for low-income families,” said Giselle Routhier, policy director at the Coalition For The Homeless. “While it could be beneficial to a small subset of families, we would also be concerned about the short-term nature of the assistance and the stability of families at the end of the year.”


    The Department of Homeless Services recently notified shelter providers of 17 apartments available across the river in Newark, according to WNYC radio, which first reported on the initiative.


    Asked if they were on board with New York City providing financial incentives for its homeless residents to move to their city, Newark officials there would only say they knew nothing about the initiative.


    DHS officials declined to provide the cost of the program, saying there’s no specific allotment while it’s evaluated for interest and effectiveness. They also didn’t provide figures for the maximum allowable rent the city is willing to pay.


    At the same time, they repeatedly referred to it as an old program while providing hoards of information unrelated to the pilot.

    “For decades, the city has helped our homeless neighbors seek housing where they can best get back on their feet; sometimes that includes outside the five boroughs,” said DHS spokesman Isaac McGinn.


    In the past five years, the city has paid $1.2 million in travel expenses — the only expense that was previously covered — for 2,512 families who relocated outside the five boroughs. Last year, the top destinations were Florida, Puerto Rico and North Carolina, according to DHS.


    With the shelter population hovering near 60,000, the city is desperate to find new living spaces for the homeless.


    Asked about the initiative, GOP mayoral candidate Nicole Malliotakis said the city should be focusing more on job training and local support services.


    “Once again Mayor de Blasio believes hardworking New Yorkers’ pockets are bottomless pits,” she told The Post.

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