Thread: Obama sends Crist $2.5 million used to buy gourmet meals!

Originally Posted by johnwk

Originally Posted by Judy

I'm telling you IF we don't shut down these phony 501 C 3 not-for-profit "charities", they're going to shut US down. Shut. Them. All. Down. Now.

The blood boiling thing about all this is, even when these tyrants are voted out of office they turn around and create a 501 tax exempt foundation of some sort, collect an outrageous salary from tax exempt contributions, and also receive money from the federal treasury to help “fundâ€

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Lobbying should be made illegal anyways, as all it is, is legalized bribery.

There should also be clause in there that states you can have no political ties directly or indirectly once you leave office. Also no more "gold parachute" retirement plans where they collect their entire salary for the rest of their lives, and get cost of living increases too. Boy, how much would that save us all.

Lobbying is great! There's no problem with legal lobbying. ALIPAC is a legal 501 C 4 lobbying organization. We're the good guys! The bad guys are the ones who form a "charity" on tax exempt 501 C 3 status and violate our laws by using their money to fund lobbying activities instead of "charity" activities. They're frauds and imposters. But we do need to shut foreign lobbyists down. I think there are over 7,000 registered foreign lobbyists. Amazing huh?

A disaster for democracy in our country.

Originally Posted by Judy

The FairTax doesn't shut them down, but it makes their tax exempt status moot since there's no more income tax to offset with tax exempt contributions.

Judy,

Please believe me when I tell you the FairTax is not what it is being sold as. It is a gimmick to complete the federal government's power grab, extending its reach to taxing our property, real and personal, which our founding fathers specifically agreed would only be taxed if the rule of apportionment were followed:


FOUNDING FATHER'S FAIR SHARE FORMULA


States’ population

__________________ X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S SHARE

Total U.S. Population



In any event, here is a quick assessment of the alleged fair tax:

1.

H.R. 25 proposes to make it an offense against the federal government for a person to exercise an inalienable right of mankind ___the right to sell the property one has in their labor ___ unless they register with government, collect a tax for the federal government, file sales tax returns under the penalty of perjury, keep any records Congress may dream up, and also be subject to audits which will be necessary for compliance purposes which is what the American people now complain of under existing taxation!

2.

Neither the language of H.R. 25 nor the ringleaders behind the alleged fair tax propose to withdraw Congress’s power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits and gains as were laid under the Corporate Excise Tax ACT of 1909 prior to the adoption of the 16th Amendment and were upheld in Flint vs. Stone Tracy! In other words, keep in mind that even if the 16th Amendment were repealed as the ringleaders of the alleged fairtax claim is part of their goal, Congress still would be able to imposes excise taxes calculated from profits, gains and other “incomesâ€

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Lobbying should be made illegal anyways, as all it is, is legalized bribery.

There should also be clause in there that states you can have no political ties directly or indirectly once you leave office. Also no more "gold parachute" retirement plans where they collect their entire salary for the rest of their lives, and get cost of living increases too. Boy, how much would that save us all.

Lobbying is great! There's no problem with legal lobbying. ALIPAC is a legal 501 C 4 lobbying organization. We're the good guys! The bad guys are the ones who form a "charity" on tax exempt 501 C 3 status and violate our laws by using their money to fund lobbying activities instead of "charity" activities. They're frauds and imposters. But we do need to shut foreign lobbyists down. I think there are over 7,000 registered foreign lobbyists. Amazing huh?

A disaster for democracy in our country.

Being a disaster for democracy is something the framers would approve of. They detested democracy as the worst form of government ever conceived of by man, for it creates a tyranny of the majority, ie: 51% control 49%. That is why Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution states, "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this Union a Republican form of government". Or as Samuel Adams put it, "Democracy never lasts long. It soon exhausts, wastes, and murders itself. There never was a democracy that did not commit suicide". Alexander Hamilton, "We are a republican government. Real liberty is never found in depotism, or the extremes of democracy." Elbridge Jerry, "The evils we suffer, stem from the excesses of democracy. The people do not want virtue, but are the dupes of pretended patriots".

This is why the vote in the House and the Senate must carry either a 2/3rds majority, or 3/4 majority depending on which "rules" apply, if we are to follow the Constitution. So in every vote there must be a nesr unanimous "yea" for things to pass legislation. Anything else is usurpation, and tyrannical. This is why I don't like moneyed lobbying. It pays for votes, and men's souls, to cater to a few at the expense of many. And no-matter how benevolent a group starts out, history has continually shown that over time even those with the best intentions become corrupt. So exteme care and wisdom must prevail in our hearts and minds to thingsa that we either endorse, or disdain.

After sending Charlie Crist $2.5 million used to buy gourmet meals, Obama decides to have a White House cocktail party and serve $100 per pop wagyu steak to his guests, while those who pay for it who live in inner cities such as Harlem, Camden and Newark N.J, South Philly, etc., will be lucky if they can afford to supper size their dinner on Thanksgiving at a local fast food place.

When will America Wake Up?


JWK


If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon a federal government check, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Washington Establishment’s Marxist game plan, a plan to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the bread which labor and business has earned.