Thread: Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?

Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?
Secrecy over birth certificate, demand for 'natural-born' citizenship cited

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Posted: June 10, 2008
9:44 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily


Bloggers are raising questions about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's qualifications to be U.S. president, because of the secrecy over his birth certificate and the requirement presidents be "natural-born" U.S. citizens.

Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot, cited the "unlikely" but still circulating rumor that Obama was born not within the United States, but elsewhere, possibly Kenya.

Geraghty defined the concerns most clearly, stating: "If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen … because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for '10 years, at least [f]ive of which had to be after the age of 16.'"

He then points out Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, was 18 when Obama was born "so she wouldn't have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16."

Geraghty continues: " (Interestingly, apparently there isn't much paperwork on Obama's parents' marriage. 'Obama: From Promise to Power,' page. 27: 'Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama's maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.' Also note that Obama's father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation.)"


The reports released to date show Obama was born in Honolulu to Barack Hussein Obama Sr., of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kan.

According to FindLaw.com, which is cited by Geraghty, the requirements that were in force from Dec. 24, 1952 to Nov. 13, 1986, encompassing the time of Obama's birth, state, "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

Obama's father, a student sent to the United States from Africa, lived several places in the United States while attending class. He then returned to his homeland. Obama's mother later married another man and moved to Indonesia.

Geraghty said the Obama campaign could "debunk" the rumors about his birth simply by releasing a copy of his birth certificate, but the campaign has so far chosen not to do that.

"The campaign cited the birth certificate in their 'Fact Check' on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it," he said.

Hawaii doesn't make public information from birth certificates.

"If the concern of the Obama campaign is that the certificate includes his Social Security number or some other data that could be useful to identity thieves, that information could easily be blocked out and the rest released. (Although I wonder if identity thieves would find Obama a tougher than usual target, since using the name on purchases would almost inevitably bring closer scrutiny.)," Geraghty said.

The Obama campaign repeatedly has declined to respond to WND requests for comment, instead replying with solicitations for campaign donations.

The presumptive Republican nominee for president, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., already has gone through the same type of challenge, and the U.S. Senate responded with a resolution in April declaring him to be a "'natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States."

That article declares that "no person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of president."

McCain was challenged because he was born to two U.S. citizens in the Panama Canal Zone.

According to a report from Michael Dobbs on The Fact Checker, the McCain campaign consulted two leading jurists, Theodore Olsen and Laurence Tribe, and they agreed.

"They argue that McCain is a natural born citizen because the United States exercised sovereignty over the Panama Canal at the time of his birth on August 29, 1936, he was born on a U.S. military base, and both of his parents were U.S. citizens," the report said.

Others say the issue isn't quite that simple, and the matter could be resolved fully only by a constitutional amendment or a U.S. Supreme Court ruling.


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IF THEY ARE RELUCTANT TO PRODUCE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THEN SOMETHING IS AMISS. THIS COULD GET INTERESTING.

Oh God hear our prayer. This just might be the way to get this creep out of office. I hope he shows mercy on this country by making this so.

Hi Agrneydgrl, Red Pony, and Jean,

We might wonder why haven't Hillary or her handlers keyed up on this? Do they know?

You can bet your a$$ that the mainstream press won't touch it.

Our next president's Kenyan birth certificate issue is being worked at these websites:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread362281/pg1

http://www.suitablyflip.com/suitably_fl ... to-pa.html

http://www.suitablyflip.com/suitably_fl ... to-pa.html

Illegals' handlers are masters at counterfeiting; the capability is there. You can also bet your a$$ that the counterfeiters are working on solving this minor inconvenience for our first MUSLIM president.


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Subject: Dear Muslim

This is the most profound, most insightful message to
Muslims I've seen. I think it should be read on Fox,
sent to the President, and forwarded to any other form
of media to express what so many of us feel toward the
Muslim.

The paper stated today that some Muslim doctor is
saying we are profiling him because he has been
checked three times while getting on an airplane.
(A Letter From An American Airlines Pilot) This well
spoken man, who is a pilot with American Airlines,
says what is in his heart beautifully....read, absorb
and pass on..

YOU WORRY ME!
By American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco

"I've been trying to say this since 9-11 but you worry
me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the
streets of this country that I love, that your color
and culture still blended with the beautiful human
landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't
blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.

I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People
from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have
been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our
friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully
understand their grievances and hate but I know that
nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four
jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women
in front of children and brutally stabbed to death
others. They took control of those planes and crashed
them into buildings killing thousands of proud
fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant
daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless
public servants, and children's mothers.

The Palestinians Celebrated, The Iraqis were overjoyed
as was most of the Arab world. So I notice you now. I
don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed
by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has
destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need
your help. As a rational American, trying to protect
my country and family in an irrational and unsafe
world, I must know how to tell the difference between
you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

How do I differentiate between the true
Arab/Muslim-Americans and the Arab/Muslims in our
communities who are attending our schools, enjoying
our parks, and living in OUR communities under the
protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the
next attack that will slaughter these same good
neighbors and children? The events of September 11th
changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to
determine which of you embraces our great country,
with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different
citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for
every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for
me.

I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right
to know whether or not you love America . Do you
pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display
it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you
pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless
this nation, that He will protect and prosper it? Or
do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your
"Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only
this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by
the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who
gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to
preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate
sacrifice? Do you love America ? If this is your
commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know
about it.

Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding
the media at this time with hard facts on your faith,
and what hard actions you are taking as a community
and as a religion to protect the United States of
America Please, no more benign overtures of regret for
the death of the innocent because I worry about who
you regard as innocent. No more benign overtures of
condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I
worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not
interested in any more sympathy. I am only interested
in action. What will you do for America - our great
country -- at this time of crisis, at this time of
war?

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in
the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless
America " I want
to see young Arab/Muslim men
enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment
of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this
butchering and to this nation as a whole. The FBI has
a list of over 400 people they want to talk to
regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live
and socialize in Muslim communities. You know them.
You know where they are. Hand them over to us, now!
But I have seen little even approaching this sort of
action. Instead I have seen an already closed and
secretive community close even tighter. You have
disappeared from the streets.
You have posted armed security guards at your
facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have
screamed for protection from reprisals.

The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE
appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating.
They seemed more concerned with making sure that the
United States proves who was responsible before taking
action. They seemed more concerned with protecting
their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards
them in the United States and abroad than they did
with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders"
like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and
peace and love for all people then I want chapter and
verse from the Koran and statements from popular
Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the
teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when
your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations,
terrorism, and intolerance?
It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large
numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings
of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative
form of the religion. A form that has been
demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose
structure is built upon a foundation of violence,
death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited
from the prisons around the world. A form whose
members (some as young as five years old) are seen day
after day, week in and week out, year after year,
marching in the streets around the world, burning
effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag,
shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members
convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms
against the great United States of America, the
country of their birth. A form whose rules are so
twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show
their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the
name of Islam.

Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our
women proudly show their faces in public rather than
cover up like a shameful whore? Do you and your
fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with
dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow
Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel ,
the ONLY FRIENDLY CIVILIZED SOCIETY in the Muslim/Arab
area, that thinks and acts like most Americans.

And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why
in the world are you even here? Are you here to take
our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and
stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want
you to leave. I want you to go back to your desert
sandpit where women are treated like rats and dogs. I
want you to take your religion, your friends, and your
family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY
THERE! We will NEVER give in to your influence, your
retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant
religion.

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or
any others for that matter, to take away that which is
so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest
constitution in the world. I want to know where every
Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is
my right and the right of every true citizen of this
country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of
thousands of my brothers and sisters who died
protecting the very constitution that is protecting
you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me
know. I want you here as my brother , my neighbor, my
friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray
areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it
is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand.""Until
then .. you worry me"

Hi Jean,
I believe you question deserves a direct answer.

Originally Posted by jean

Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?

No, my dear, he was born in Kenya.

How can he get away with it?
Sssshhhh! He's the messiah!
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