Thread: OCTUPLETS' MOTHER 'ALREADY HAS SIX CHILDREN'

I thought that a woman had the right to do to do whatever she wanted to with her own body. I didn't think that we had any input into what a woman does with her "reproductive rights".

Just for the record. I'm still married to my first wife and I think that when the children outnumber the kids the parents are in trouble. We stopped at two.

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer Thomas Watkins, Associated Press Writer – Fri Jan 30, 7:12 am ET


WHITTIER, Calif. – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week has six other children and never expected to have eight more when she took fertility treatment, her mother said.

Angela Suleman said her daughter expects a big challenge raising 14 children. The good news, she said, is all the babies appear healthy.

"I looked at those babies. They are so tiny and so beautiful," Suleman told The Los Angeles Times on Thursday.

Suleman's daughter gave birth to the octuplets Monday at a hospital in Bellflower but has requested that doctors keep her name confidential. Media knew little about the woman until a family acquaintance told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday that the mother is "fairly young" and lives with her parents and her six children.

Within hours, media had camped out at the family's home in Whittier, where the babies' grandfather pulled up in a minivan in the evening and briefly spoke to The Associated Press. Beside him were two children — a 7-year-old and 6-year-old — who said they were excited to have eight new siblings.

But the grandfather warned that media may have a tougher time finding the family after the babies are released from the hospital.

"We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."

The mother also has two children, ages 5 and 3, and 2-year-old twins, neighbors told the Times.

Suleman said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos. The woman declined.

"What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed," Suleman told the Times. "That is a very painful thing."

Dr. Harold Henry said the woman was already pregnant when she came to Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center, and she was counseled about the risks of her pregnancy and on the option of aborting some of the fetuses. Doctors had been expecting only seven babies, but an eighth was born in the cesarean delivery.

The six boys and two girls, the second octuplets born alive in the United States, have garnered worldwide attention as media have attempted to find out more about the mother and her family. Hours after media gathered outside the Whittier home, Kaiser issued a statement on behalf of the mother requesting privacy.

"Please know, in our own time, we will share additional details about this miraculous experience," the statement read. "The babies continue to grow strong everyday and make good progress. My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals. Needless to say the eighth was a surprise to us all, but a blessing as well."

Dr. Mandhir Gupta said seven of the babies were breathing without assistance. One was still receiving oxygen through a tube in his nose.

Seven of the infants were being tube-fed donated breast milk. One of the boys was expected to begin feedings Friday.

All babies continued to receive an intravenous nutritional combination. They were expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.

Some fertility specialists have said the children face increased health risks because they are octuplets and born nine weeks premature. At birth, they ranged between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.

Doctors say they advise against higher-order births, but acknowledge the decision is not theirs to make.

"Who am I to say that six is the limit?" said Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, medical director of Fertility Institutes, which has clinics in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York City. "There are people who like to have big families."

Dr. James Grifo, professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the NYU School of Medicine, added: "I don't think it's our job to tell them how many babies they're allowed to have. I am not a policeman for reproduction in the United States. My role is to educate patients."

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Associated Press writer Shaya Tayefe Mohajer in Bellflower and AP science writer Alicia Chang in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_ ... /octuplets

I searched just the last name of the mom. It appears that all other Suleman's on the net are Pakistanis. Whether or not she and her family are here legally, I do not know. However, I am reasonably certain she is Middle Eastern and not Hispanic. She may or may not have the same last name, but if she had the children implanted, and quite obviously fertility was not her issue, maybe her husband/boyfriend was no longer around to get her pregnant again. Maybe he is in club gitmo I think it is odd that first their were reports that she is not married, then the reports changed to nobody knows her marital status. If she is married to a famous terrorist, that could explain why mom and dad, with a different last name, have no problem going public but she remains shrouded in secrecy.

If this is the case, maybe the big house dad says they are going into hiding in might be located in Pakistan lol

Photos from the article DearsisterAnise posted above:

AP – The home of the Southern California woman who gave birth to octuplets this week is seen in Whittier, …


Kaiser Permanente's 52 member labor and delivery team for the octuplets.
(Photo: Business Wire)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_ ... _octuplets

Can anyone tell us how much Welfare they can collect per month for 14 kids?
Can all of the adults stay home to take care of the kids and collect Welfare too?
What will Medicaid for the 14 kids cost the taxpayers?
Can the 3 adults get Medicaid too, since they can't work?

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Can anyone tell us how much Welfare they can collect per month for 14 kids?
Can all of the adults stay home to take care of the kids and collect Welfare too?
What will Medicaid for the 14 kids cost the taxpayers?
Can the 3 adults get Medicaid too, since they can't work?

I can't tell you the exact numbers because I forgot the last two digits, but it is a little less than 1700 a month for 6 kids and it goes up to a little under 2700 a month for 14. This is not including food stamps or medical cards or rent help.

Family: Octuplets join 6 other children at home
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WHITTIER, Calif. (AP) — The Southern California woman who gave birth to octuplets this week has six other children and never expected to have another eight when she took fertility treatment, her mother said Thursday.

Angela Suleman said her daughter expects a big challenge raising 14 children, especially with the husband expected to return to Iraq. The good news, she said, is all the babies appear healthy.

"I looked at those babies. They are so tiny and so beautiful," she told The Los Angeles Times.

Suleman's daughter gave birth to the octuplets on Monday at a hospital in Bellflower but has requested that doctors keep her name confidential. Media knew little about the woman until a family acquaintance told CBS' The Early Show on Thursday the mother is "fairly young" and lives with her parents on a cul-de-sac with six children, including twins.

Within hours, media had camped out at the family's home in Whittier, where the babies' grandfather pulled up in a minivan in the evening and briefly spoke to The Associated Press. Beside him were two children — a 7-year-old and 6-year-old — who said they were excited to have eight new siblings.

But the grandfather warned that media may have a tougher time finding the family after the babies are released from the hospital.

"We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who only identified himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."

Suleman said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos. The woman declined.

"What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed," Suleman told the Times. "That is a very painful thing."

Doctor Harold Henry said the woman was already pregnant when she came to Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center, and she was counseled on the options of aborting some of the fetuses. Doctors had been expecting only seven babies, but an eighth was born in the Caesarean delivery.

The six boys and two girls, the second octuplets born alive in the U.S., have garnered worldwide attention as media have attempted to find out more about the mother and her family. Hours after media vans and reporters gathered outside the Whittier home, Kaiser issued a statement on behalf of the mother requesting privacy.

"Please know, in our own time, we will share additional details about this miraculous experience," the statement read.

"The babies continue to grow strong everyday and make good progress. My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals. Needless to say the eighth was a surprise to us all, but a blessing as well."

Doctor Mandhir Gupta said seven of the babies were breathing room air without assistance. One was still receiving oxygen through a tube in his nose.

Seven of the infants were being tube-fed donated breast milk. One of the boys was expected to begin feedings Friday.

All babies continued to receive an intravenous nutritional combination. They were expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.

Some fertility specialists have said the children face increased health risks because they are octuplets and born nine weeks premature. At birth, they ranged between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.

Doctors say they advise against higher-order births, but acknowledge the choice is not theirs to make.

"Who am I to say that six is the limit?" said Jeffrey Steinberg, medical director of Fertility Institutes, which has clinics in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York City. "There are people who like to have big families."

James Grifo, professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the NYU School of Medicine, added: "I don't think it's our job to tell them how many babies they're allowed to have."

"I am not a policeman for reproduction in the United States. My role is to educate patients.
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Can anyone tell us how much Welfare they can collect per month for 14 kids?
Can all of the adults stay home to take care of the kids and collect Welfare too?
What will Medicaid for the 14 kids cost the taxpayers?
Can the 3 adults get Medicaid too, since they can't work?

I think California State govenment claim they are broke and that they are giving IOU to welfare people and those who have a state tax return coming to them. So it is "moot" about how much they give. I think this woman believes she is going to get 2 million from some one like Oprah but she is WRong. Oprah or any other talk show host is NOT going to give their stamp of approval on this woman whose own mother says she has "issues".

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