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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Not only are the taxpayers forced to fund abortions we are also forced to fund an organization who funds Hillary Clinton's campaign

    Planned Parenthood’s Wisconsin political-advocacy arm is being fined for failing to immediately disclose almost $120,000 in Democratic campaign contributions, according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings.
    Oh wake up, you're funding thousands of organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates. Every time you use your computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper or see a doctor or order a prescription, you're funding organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates.

    And no taxpayer money is used to pay Planned Parenthood or any other abortion provider a dime for abortion services. That's the law and has been since 1974.
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    Planned Parenthood doesn't need any money from taxpayers to provide abortions.
    Then why do they cry like hell when Congress considers stopping their funding?

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    They provide other services and some of their patients are on Medicaid and can use their Medicaid coverage for those.
    So they are already getting paid by Medicaid for legal medical services!

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    Planned Parenthood has several private sources of assistance to help low income and often no-income girls and women with some of the costs.
    So if they lost funding, private donors would finance them, as it should be!

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    Teenage girls get the money from their parents or friends or work to save it up.
    "Or friends". Keeping it a secret from their parents who are responsible for them.

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    There's also a separate medical exam with your doctor to confirm the pregnancy and number of weeks before you can go to Planned Parenthood, then you go to Planned Parenthood for the procedure or another provider, whichever you're most comfortable with or is available in your area.
    Your proof?

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    Planned Parenthood has been providing and arranging abortions through providers long before 1991. Planned Parenthood has been around since 1916.
    They have been around since 1916, but not performing abortions until 1991 when it became lucrative. Yes, they arranged abortions through other providers before 1991, but now they farm out many of the other services to other providers and do the abortions themselves.

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    People who are opposed to abortion are okay, that's their choice, that's up to them, what I don't understand is why they want to take their view and exploit the rights of others who have a different view using the force of government to achieve it.
    Many states prohibited abortions before Roe-v.-Wade. I don't agree with them. But I want a uniform law for the United States of America. Roe-v.-Wade opened the door for partial-birth abortions. I am against those. And with the ease of getting an abortion, I see promiscuity way up. If I am conspiratorial about it, like you are about the Drug War, I would say the big pharma is behind it. They make a lot of money from people who contact HIV and other STDs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    Conservatives claim they don't like the government forcing them to do things they don't like or want to do. They're opposed to the government forcing a baker to bake a gay couple a cake. They're opposed to the government forcing employers to pay for birth control medications through their company health insurance. Yet they have no problem using the government to force a 13 year old into childbirth against her will. To me, that's just plain screwed up irrational thinking.
    Of course you would. But the baker who won't bake a cake is not spreading a disease. Forcing employer to pay for insurance to cover birth control pills is dictatorship. The insurance may have the option to provide that for those who want it to add it to their policy, at their expense. And in most states (if not all) it is illegal for a 13 year old to have sexual intercourse. That is for her parents to deal with, and perhaps the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh wake up, you're funding thousands of organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates. Every time you use your computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper or see a doctor or order a prescription, you're funding organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates.
    What's that to do with taxpayers paying PP for abortions?

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    And no taxpayer money is used to pay Planned Parenthood or any other abortion provider a dime for abortion services. That's the law and has been since 1974.
    Just like PP didn't sell body parts, which was and is illegal, to enhance their profits from abortions they "CLAIM" are not funded by taxpayer money!

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    I don't know, you'll need to ask stoptheinvaders.

    I don't know if what they did was illegal on the body parts. It's my understanding they can sell the tissue and parts, but not for a profit, but since they're a not-for-profit, not sure where that's headed. Last I heard in the news was the FBI is investigating the allegations.
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    FREE VASECTOMIES AND TUBAL LIGATIONS WILL CUT DOWN ON ABORTIONS!

    END BREED AND FEED PROGRAMS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I don't know, you'll need to ask stoptheinvaders.
    Why ask me--the quote was for something you said, not me!
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    Remove maternity benefits from Medicaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Why ask me--the quote was for something you said, not me!
    No, that's jtdc inadequate cut and paste operation, my statement was in response to your statement about PP contributing to some Democratic candidates in Wisconsin. jtdc was asking what does that have to do with taxpayers paying for PP abortions to which I replied, I don't know, ask you. Maybe you can explain your issue you raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, that's jtdc inadequate cut and paste operation, my statement was in response to your statement about PP contributing to some Democratic candidates in Wisconsin. jtdc was asking what does that have to do with taxpayers paying for PP abortions to which I replied, I don't know, ask you. Maybe you can explain your issue you raised.
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    Here is what jtdc was asking YOU about what YOU said

    Originally Posted by Judy
    Oh wake up, you're funding thousands of organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates. Every time you use your computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper or see a doctor or order a prescription, you're funding organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates.



    What's that to do with taxpayers paying PP for abortions?
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    DO NOT accuse me of those words!

    I hope you answer jtdc because I also would like to know what---using a computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper-----has to do with our tax dollars going to PP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
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    Here is what jtdc was asking YOU about what YOU said

    Originally Posted by Judy
    Oh wake up, you're funding thousands of organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates. Every time you use your computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper or see a doctor or order a prescription, you're funding organizations that use your money to fund Democratic candidates.



    What's that to do with taxpayers paying PP for abortions?
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    DO NOT accuse me of those words!

    I hope you answer jtdc because I also would like to know what---using a computer or phone to twitter or facebook or google search or buy on line or make a bank deposit or go the store or pay property taxes or read a paper-----has to do with our tax dollars going to PP.
    The post isn't about money going to PP, it was about your money going to Democratic candidates that you were complaining about. My post doesn't say anything about taxpayer money going to PP. It's explaining to you that when you spend your money for taxes or consumption or production or whatever, to whom you pay it is free in this country to take money that is theirs now and spend it however they wish including contributions to political candidates, including Democrat candidates.

    For example, when you pay property taxes that include school taxes, you're funding teachers who belong to the NEA that contributes to Democratic candidates. That's our free market system. Once it leaves your hands, it now belongs to someone else to do with as they please.

    Same as when you pay taxes to the federal government, once it leaves your hands and goes into Medicaid, Medicaid pays for legal services performed by PP and doctors and vendors and hospitals who are then free to use it however they please including contributing to Democratic candidates just like the NEA and Google and Facebook and well, most enterprises in the United States because most of them are run and controlled by Democrats.

    When you sign up for cable and watch television and see a movie, a portion of that fee you pay every month ends up in Hollywood's pockets and a bunch of that money ends up in the Democratic Party.

    So you'll have to answer jtdc's question if he wants an answer, because I don't know what your issue of Democratic candidates funded by PP has to do with your taxpayer money any differently than it has to do with any money you spend in this country.

    Here's your post that I responded to:

    stoptheinvaders wrote:

    Not only are the taxpayers forced to fund abortions we are also forced to fund an organization who funds Hillary Clinton's campaign

    Planned Parenthood’s Wisconsin political-advocacy arm is being fined for failing to immediately disclose almost $120,000 in Democratic campaign contributions, according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings.
    And I know jtdc read it because he gave you a like on it. So why everyone is now acting like they don't know what the discussion is about is pretty peculiar.

    Thus, I'm going to leave you all to bash it out among yourselves.

    Bye Bye!
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