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    But 67 percent of Americans think Mueller’s case against Manafort was justified, while 17 percent say it was unjustified, according to the poll.
    If he's a tax cheat, he's a tax cheat and should be punished for his crime. When a crime is found during an investigation, you don't just turn your head an ignore it because it's unrelated to the crime being investigated. That's like saying we should just ignore a crime of dealing drugs just because it was found out during an investigation for child abuse. A crime is a crime regardless of how it is found out and the individual should be punished in accordance with the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    If he's a tax cheat, he's a tax cheat and should be punished for his crime. When a crime is found during an investigation, you don't just turn your head an ignore it because it's unrelated to the crime being investigated. That's like saying we should just ignore a crime of dealing drugs just because it was found out during an investigation for child abuse. A crime is a crime regardless of how it is found out and the individual should be punished in accordance with the law.


    It is hard to believe some are defending this activity. A tax cheat is a tax cheat and I don't care if the name is Sharpton or Manafort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    It is hard to believe some are defending this activity. A tax cheat is a tax cheat and I don't care if the name is Sharpton or Manafort.
    Those whining about it support excusing Manafort because his crime has nothing to do with the Russian collusion probe. Of course that's an utterly ridiculous excuse and it's not supported by the rule of law.

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    Under US law and Constitution, if the basis for your search warrant is bogus and illegal, any discoveries under that warrant are inadmissible in court. The Special Counsel had no legitimate cause to even request Paul Manafort's tax returns or emails or text messages or bank records or anything else without a legal justifiable purpose based on probable cause, of which there was none. There was no probable cause for Mueller or anyone else to search and seize documents and communications of Paul Manafort, because the basis of it was looking for collusion with the Russians as the reason Trump was the election, which they knew to be false, they knew the premise was fabricated. Under US law that is illegal, the search was illegal, the evidence inadmissable and Paul Manafort's civil rights were violated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Under US law and Constitution, if the basis for your search warrant is bogus and illegal, any discoveries under that warrant are inadmissible in court. The Special Counsel had no legitimate cause to even request Paul Manafort's tax returns or emails or text messages or bank records or anything else without a legal justifiable purpose based on probable cause, of which there was none. There was no probable cause for Mueller or anyone else to search and seize documents and communications of Paul Manafort, because the basis of it was looking for collusion with the Russians as the reason Trump was the election, which they knew to be false, they knew the premise was fabricated. Under US law that is illegal, the search was illegal, the evidence inadmissable and Paul Manafort's civil rights were violated.
    Your argument didn't work for Manafort's lawyers and it's not going to work for you.

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    Poll: Trump disapproval rating hits 60 percent, a new high

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    Aug 31st 2018 10:30AM

    According to a new ABC/Washington Post poll, President Trump’s disapproval rating has hit a new high.
    Sixty percent of the 1,003 adults surveyed said they disapprove of the president’s job performance, with 53 percent saying they do so strongly.

    Trump also hit a new low with an approval rating of only 36 percent.

    Furthermore, 63 percent voiced support for the unimpeded continuation of Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation and 64 percent said that Attorney General Jeff Sessions should not be fired.

    The poll was conducted from August 26 to 29, the week following the tax and bank fraud convictions of former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and the numerous guilty pleas—some of which implicated the president—of former Trump attorney Michael Cohen.

    Notably, Trump has said that his decision-making process does not include consideration for poll numbers.

    “I don’t do it for the polls. Honestly — people won’t necessarily agree with this — I do nothing for the polls,” the president told reporters on Wednesday. “I do it to do what’s right. I’m here for an extended period of time. I’m here for a period that’s a very important period of time. And we are straightening out this country.”

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    Notably, Trump has said that his decision-making process does not include consideration for poll numbers.
    Polls must be important to Donald Trump because he keeps quoting them when they are favorable to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Your argument didn't work for Manafort's lawyers and it's not going to work for you.
    It should help him. The investigation had no basis, the search had no legal cause, therefore, it should all be inadmissible under the 4th Amendment. But we'll see how it goes.
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