President Trump’s tax plan keeps the socialist communist progressive income tax alive
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Well, now that the Republican tax reform is finalized on paper, we see that it not only keeps the socialist, communist, progressive income tax alive, but President Trump has already given thumbs up to this Washington Sewer Rat’s method of taxation which does nothing to remove the iron fist of our federal government from the necks of America’s hard working productive citizens and business owners; does nothing to end the American People from having to divulge the most personal information of their private lives; does nothing to end our despotic federal government from arbitrarily deciding what is and what is not taxable income; does nothing to end Washington Sewer Rats from picking winners and losers; does nothing to end our Washington Establishment’s use of taxation to intentionally seek out America’s most productive hard working citizens and business owners and transfer the bread they have produced to a dependent voting block who prostitutes its vote for free government cheese; does nothing to end taxation being used as a political weapon to silence, threaten and punish political foes while rewarding the friends of a tyrannical bloated federal government; Does nothing to end the never ending class-warfare tax game used by Washington Sewer Rats to divide and conquer the American People; and does nothing to encourage Congress to adopt sound fiscal policies and immediately extinguish year end deficits.
This is what President Trump, who asserts a love for a free market system and a distain for Washington’s Sewer Rats has given an approving nod to . . . a continuation of the socialist, communist, progressive income tax ___ the very vehicle used by Washington Sewer Rats since 1913 to stifle our Founders’ intended free market system and allows the iron fist of Washington’s sewer rats to clench and squeeze the necks of the American people.
And what did one of our forefathers say with regard to this notoriously evil system of direct taxation?
See Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes, January 18th, 1797
"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."
Let us not fool ourselves. Trump’s tax plan is nothing more than a manipulation of the existing and notoriously evil income tax which has proven to be a root cause of many of our nation’s sufferings. Real tax reform is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment which begins with the following 32 words, which would restore our Constitutions’ original tax plan as our founders intended it to operate:
“SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
But don’t expect our politically motivated media outlets, including Fox News, to ever discuss the merits, wisdom and brilliance of our Founders’ nonpartisan, make-America-Great tax plan. They are more interested in how to manipulate the existing communist, socialist progressive income tax to carry out their self-righteous personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness instead of allowing the market place to play its intended role in raising a federal revenue, and preventing the devastating consequences of an unbridled direct tax in incomes.
JWK
“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.
Ivanka Trump goes on FoxNews to promote the Republican socialist income tax plan
I saw Ivanka on Fox News this morning promoting the communist/socialist/progressive income tax plan cooked up by the Republican Leadership in the House and Senate.
It's amazing that a family who has pledged to drain the swamp, is now embracing the very tool, the communist inspired income tax, which gives swamp creatures the power to do their evil.
JWK
Are we really ok with 45 percent of our nation's population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation's hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes when our Constitution requires Representatives and direct taxes Shall be apportioned among the Several Statesť?
Trump's tax plan will help, but does not end the cause of our tax sufferings
I could be very cynical and say, ever since the communist/socialist/progressive 16th Amendment was adopted, it seems that every 20 to 25 years or so tax “reform” becomes a very real issue because the people begin to realize how oppressive, discriminatory and screwed up the federal income tax system has become. And it becomes so messed up because our scheming Congress critters over this span of years, has used the system to sell discriminatory tax breaks in return for political campaign contribution; has used the system to reward friends and feather their own nests, not to mention how Congress uses “income taxation” to buy the votes of our nations hard working wage earners by promising to increase special exemptions and to lower a tax on their earn wages which ought never have been taxed from the beginning!
This somewhat summarizes the repeated cycle since the adoption of the notoriously evil “income tax” and especially the direct un-apportioned tax on working peoples earned wages which began under the unconstitutional, rope-a-dope “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943 ___ an alleged temporary direct tax on working people’s earned wages to fund the war effort. And this “Temporary Tax” completed Congress’ lust for a totalitarian tax system designed by communists, socialists, and progressives which is now used to subvert our founders’ intended free market system and is used by our Washington Swamp creatures to not only manipulate our economy, but also used for a number of nefarious purposes.
And what did one of our forefathers say with regard to an unbridled direct tax? See Representative Williams during a debate on Direct Taxes on January 18th, 1797:
"History, Mr. Williams said, informed them of the annihilation of nations by means of direct taxation. He referred gentlemen to the situation of the Roman Empire in its innocence, and asked them whether they had any direct taxes? No. Indirect taxes and taxes upon luxuries and spices from the Indies were their sources of revenue; but, as soon as they changed their system to direct taxation, it operated to their ruin; their children were sold as slaves, and the Empire fell from its splendor. Shall we then follow this system? He trusted not."
There is no question in my mind that the tax plan which Trump has signed will help improve the economy and provide much needed tax relief. But as I have said before, the worm at the root of the rotted tree is in fact the communist, socialist, progressive tax calculated from profits, gains, tips, wages and other lawfully earned incomes, a system of taxation which not only allows Congress to engage in activities destructive to our nation’s common defense and general welfare, but actually encourages and entices members of Congress to use the system for their personal political gains. Must we go through the same misery every 20 or 30 years without identifying the cause of our sufferings?
Is it not time to discuss the merits, wisdom and brilliance of returning to our founder’s original tax plan which can be accomplished by adopting the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment ___ a tax plan designed by our Founders to control and regulate Congress actions?
JWK
“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people?Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
The fairtax is a Washington Sewer Rat creation
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Judy
The FairTax repeals the income tax code in its entirety and replaces it with a national retail sales tax on consumption
It does not withdraw Congress' power to lay and collect taxes calculated from incomes, such as calculating an excise tax from income (profits and gains) as was laid under the corporate excise tax of 1909.
I cannot imagine why you support the Washington Sewer Rat creation called the fairtax (H.R. 25), which is intentionally designed to tighten and enlarge the iron fist of our federal government around the necks of America's productive citizens and businesses.
It is absolutely beyond my comprehension to understand why you support a tax which taxes an ordinary working person on the sale of the property they have in their own labor and also requires that person to register with government prior to selling their labor. And this is in addition to that person being required under the "fairtax" to keep any records and reports the federal government may dream up with another requirement that a sale tax return must be filed every single month by a person who dares to sell the property they have in their own labor.
What is up with you Judy?
JWK
If we can make the majority of America’s families dependent upon a federal government check, [the alleged fair tax’s family consumption entitlement] we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ___Our Washington Establishment’s Marxist game plan, a plan to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the bread which America’s labor and business has produced.
The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment
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Judy
LOL!! That's total bunk!!! Every business has to register itself now with the federal government, state government, city government and county government. Under the FairTax, only retail businesses have to register to collect the FairTax, they don't pay the FairTax from their labor, they just collect it from their consumer customers, and earn a handsome fee for doing so. Consumers pay the FairTax, not the businesses, same way and at the same time as they collect state, county and city sales taxes in 45 states.
The FairTax doesn't tax "production", "production" is totally exempt from the FairTax.
Wow. All this time you've been attacking the FairTax and you didn't even understand how it works, who it taxes and for what!!
Gee whiz, that's "SAD!"
Common, but still "SAD!"
Nothing I have written is "bunk". Is that why you failed to quote what you allege is bunk? Additionally, Judy, you are the only one who used the word "production".
It seems that your only recourse in debating the alleged "fairtax" is to make stuff up and constantly misdirect. I thought that type of tactic was beneath you Judy.
Real tax reform begins with the following 32 words.
The Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment
“SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
NOTE: these words would return us to our founding father’s ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as they intended it to operate! They would also end the failed experiment with allowing Congress to lay and collect taxes calculated from lawfully earned "incomes" which now oppresses America‘s economic engine and robs the bread which working people have earned when selling their labor!
JWK
“…..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities“. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
Real tax reform is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment
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Judy
johnwk wrote:
The FairTax doesn't tax production which means it doesn't tax productive citizens and businesses. In fact, it doesn't tax any citizen or business. It taxes the sale of new goods and services.
Good bye, jwk.
Judy,
Taxing American's productive citizens and taxing production are two entirely different things.
Hope that clears the matter up for you.
In addition, the alleged fairtax is a Washington Sewer Rat creation intentionally designed to tighten and enlarge the iron fist of sewer rats around the necks of America's productive citizens and businesses.
Why do you support allowing the federal government tax the property which working people have in the sale of their own labor?
Real tax reform is found in the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment.
JWK
"The property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands; and to hinder him from employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property."___ Butchers’ Union Co. v. Crescent CityCo., 111 U.S. 746 (1884)
The alleged fairtax imposes a tax upon the sale of a working person's labor
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Judy
The FairTax doesn't tax laborers or workers . . .
Judy,
The truth is, the alleged fairtax imposes a direct tax on the sale of property which working people have in their own labor. Why do you deny the truth?
TAXABLE PROPERTY OR SERVICE-
`(A) GENERAL RULE- The term `taxable property or service' means--
`(i) any property (including leaseholds of any term or rents with respect to such property) but excluding--
`(I) intangible property, and
`(II) used property, and
`(ii) any service (including any financial intermediation services as determined by section 801).
`(d) Liability for Tax-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The person using or consuming taxable property or services in the United States is liable for the tax imposed by this section, except as provided in paragraph (2) of this subsection.
`(2) EXCEPTION WHERE TAX PAID TO SELLER-A person using or consuming a taxable property or service in the United States is not liable for the tax imposed by this section if the person pays the tax to a person selling the taxable property or service and receives from such person a purchaser's receipt within the meaning of section 510.
`(f) Barter Transactions- If gross payment for taxable property or services is made in other than money, then the person responsible for collecting and remitting the tax shall remit the tax to the sales tax administering authority in money as if gross payment had been made in money at the tax inclusive fair market value of the taxable property or services purchased
`(a) In General- Any person liable to collect and remit taxes pursuant to section 103(a) who is engaged in a trade or business shall register as a seller with the sales tax administering authority administering the taxes imposed by this subtitle.
Now let us examine how this tax upon “property” would affect Mary and Joe Sixpack, ordinary working people. Mary and Joe have two children and find it necessary to earn extra money to pay their bills. Mary baby sits for neighbors in the community and cleans homes on weekends to raise extra money while Joe, who works for a pluming company as a full-time job, also provides the same plumbing service on his own time to people living in his community to raise extra cash.
Under the alleged fair tax Mary and Joe Sixpack’s inalienable right to sell the property they have in their labor becomes a taxable event, and, they must first register with government to sell the property they have in their labor, collect a federal tax for Congress, file federal sales tax returns under the penalty of perjury, and they will be compelled to keep any records Congress may dream up, not to mention the threat of audits which will constantly haunt them if they dare to sell the property they have in their labor.
Funny thing is, our founding fathers, during the Constitutional Convention of 1787, were fully aware of the oppressive nature of direct taxes imposed upon property and this is the very reason for our founding fathers demanding in our Constitution that No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
Judy,
Why do you support our federal government taxing the property which working people have in their own labor?
JWK
"The property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands; and to hinder him from employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property."___ Butchers’ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746 (1884)