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    Democrat leadership lies about Republican support for the FairTax Act

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    See: FactCheck.org Calls Out Biden and Dems for Lying About “FAIR Tax” Viability

    1/30/23

    FactCheck.org has called out President Biden, Chuck Schumer and the rest of the Democrats lying about the viability of the “Fair Tax,” a 30% national sales tax (not even including state and local sales taxes) that would create a new entitlement program and lead to a European-style Value Added Tax:

    The bottom line is, as confirmed by the above article, the FairTax Act is a very, very bad idea and would enlarge our federal Governments taxing capabilities and it certainly does not have “Widespread GOP Support”.


    In fact, there is only a handful of Republicans who support the alleged FairTax.



    The only reasonable explanation I can think of as to why Rep. Buddy Carter has latched onto the so-called FairTax is, that he has not studied the text of the Bill himself and is relying on one or more of his lazy staff members representations of H.R. 25 which they may have gotten from the propaganda and misrepresentations found at the fairtax web site, or in the fair tax book authored by Neal Boortz and Congressman John Linder, both of whom have done a disservice to working on real tax reform.



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    The FairTax Act: “Putting Lipstick on a Pig, Badly”

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    See: “Fair” tax: Terrible idea that just won’t die

    Jan 28, 2023

    "It was a bad idea when Neal Boortz and John Linder published The Fairtax Book (which should have been subtitled “Putting Lipstick on a Pig, Badly”) in 2005."

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    Still another fluff article on the Alleged FairTax Act of 2023

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    See: More On The Fair Tax Act Of 2023

    "Thanks to some positive feedback on my recent piece, I have decided to dig deeper into the Fair Tax Act of 2023. The Reader's Digest version of the act is that it eliminates federal corporate and individual income tax, payroll taxes that fund Social Security and Medicare, estate tax and gift tax."
    Of course, the author never really points out how the alleged fairtax actually establishes a new 23% federal tax which is in addition to Congress still maintaining the power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other "incomes".

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    I was just on Cspan about the Fair Tax and a caller mentioned, how does a 30% consumption tax affect Seniors, low-income, etc.

    And there will be more Black Market selling of goods to avoid it. Just like the tax on marijuana, now we have a Black Market. They thought they would rake in the dough on pot sales. Only to squander the money on their pet projects.

    This corrupt money-grubbing swamp needs to GUT the IRS, lower our taxes and stop wasting our hard-earned tax dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    I was just on Cspan about the Fair Tax and a caller mentioned, how does a 30% consumption tax affect Seniors, low-income, etc.

    And there will be more Black Market selling of goods to avoid it. Just like the tax on marijuana, now we have a Black Market. They thought they would rake in the dough on pot sales. Only to squander the money on their pet projects.

    This corrupt money-grubbing swamp needs to GUT the IRS, lower our taxes and stop wasting our hard-earned tax dollars.
    Talking about the "corrupt money-grubbing swamp", almost everything this Administration is doing is an outright attack on the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, e.g.:

    Flooding the United States with millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal foreign nationals;

    Allowing deadly drugs to pour across our border which is killing our nation's youth;

    Hollowing out our military’s seasoned officers, troops, seamen and pilots by discharging them for not being injected with an ineffective and experimental “vaccine”;

    Allowing the Chinese Communist Party to fly their intelligence gathering air-craft over our military installations

    Draining our militaries weapons of defense by transferring them into the hands of foreign nationals;

    Emptying out our strategic oil reserve which is specifically intended for use in a national emergency such as war;

    Shutting down our nation’s ability to produce cheap fuel needed for our nation’s manufacturing competitiveness;

    Imposing unrealistic regulations upon our nation’s businesses and industries which in turn is destroying our manufacturing capabilities and global competitiveness;

    Flooding our country with a worthless paper currency causing consumer goods to double and even triple in price;

    Working to transfer our nation’s technology to hostile foreign countries . . .

    And the list goes on and on and proving this Administration and the Democrat Party Leadership is engaged in traitorous policies and intentionally working to bring the United States to its knees.

    JWK

    There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with deadly drugs, an inflated currency and the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal populations of other countries.
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    And giving Electric Vehicle "tax breaks" to the wealthy who are the only ones who can afford to buy these $80,000+ EV's.

    Democrats are such lying hypocrites who pass tax laws and loopholes that THEY use to pay as little taxes as possible then blame it on the Republicans. What a putrid swamp this is.

    We need to wipe the slate clean of all of them and demand Term Limits. No lobbyist payoffs, no dark money campaign donations and ONLY legal U.S. citizens of the state can contribute to their candidate. No more California, Zuckerburg, Gates and Soros donating to states campaigns they do not reside in.

    Funding the corrupt United Nations and then the UN gives OUR money, in debit cards, to illegal aliens to invade our country and destroy us.

    Add to the fact they are allowing China and foreign governments to buy up our land, use up our water, to grow food and control our food sources! Food and alfalfa which they use our water to grow and then ship out of our country. What a racket!

    No foreign government, non-citizens, illegal aliens, refugees, TPS, asylum liars, or foreign persons should be able to buy ANY real estate here, be it land, commercial buildings, or housing. Lease only.



    This is like a science fiction horror movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    And giving Electric Vehicle "tax breaks" to the wealthy who are the only ones who can afford to buy these $80,000+ EV's.

    Democrats are such lying hypocrites who pass tax laws and loopholes that THEY use to pay as little taxes as possible then blame it on the Republicans. What a putrid swamp this is.

    We need to wipe the slate clean of all of them and demand Term Limits. No lobbyist payoffs, no dark money campaign donations and ONLY legal U.S. citizens of the state can contribute to their candidate. No more California, Zuckerburg, Gates and Soros donating to states campaigns they do not reside in.

    Funding the corrupt United Nations and then the UN gives OUR money, in debit cards, to illegal aliens to invade our country and destroy us.

    Add to the fact they are allowing China and foreign governments to buy up our land, use up our water, to grow food and control our food sources! Food and alfalfa which they use our water to grow and then ship out of our country. What a racket!

    No foreign government, non-citizens, illegal aliens, refugees, TPS, asylum liars, or foreign persons should be able to buy ANY real estate here, be it land, commercial buildings, or housing. Lease only.



    This is like a science fiction horror movie.
    And part of that horror movie is the proposed FairTax Act and its objective which is to increase the federal government's taxing capabilities with an additional tax, a 23 % tax ". . . on the use or consumption in the United States of taxable property or services.”

    See: “SEC. 101. IMPOSITION OF SALES TAX.

    “(a) In General.—There is hereby imposed a tax on the use or consumption in the United States of taxable property or services.”


    What is the reasoning for giving Congress a new source of tax revenue when it has proven to not only squander our hard earn money and engage in reckless spending, but spends our money on objects which we, the People, have not agreed to by our written Constitution?

    How much of our federal tax dollars are now being spent by this Administration to assist and encourage the invasion at our southern border by millions upon millions of the worlds the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminals? Are American citizens not being made into tax slaves and second-class citizens by the Biden Administration?
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    See: Biden’s welcome program for illegal immigrants

    April 12, 2022

    "Biden is rolling out the welcome mat.

    Illegal border-crossers will no longer be treated like criminals. More like customers. The president’s fiscal budget, presented March 28, cuts funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement by 8%, despite an expected surge in migrants, and reduces detention beds. Meanwhile, he’s increasing funding a whopping 700% for “noncitizen processing and care,” speedier service and more flights and ground transportation.

    Kind of like a travel agency."


    And now, we find members in Congress want to give our federal government an additional source to raise revenue . . . the FairTax Act which would create a 23 % tax on consumption and taxable property owned by American Citizens. You bet this is like a horror movie!

    JWK

    What will it take for American Citizens to accept the fact that their homeland is under attack orchestrated by the Biden Administration?

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    Thank you for your input and insight JWK.

    These corrupt, lying, swamp rats are so deviant in all the ways they hatch up these plans to tax us to death and rip us off while they get rich through their tax loopholes, never ending wars, insider trading, give themselves raises and make us pay for their Peloton memberships, perks, and benefits!

    And now these evil psychopaths have the GAUL, in our face, to squander our money on trillion-dollar spending bills on illegal aliens and foreign countries who do not deserve a dime of our hard work that we EARNED in our paychecks.

    WE are supplementing the paychecks of corrupt Pakistan military members!!!! We are funding gender studies in Pakistan! We have funded shrimp on treadmills and a host of ridiculous programs these morons cook up in their heads. This is an outrage waste and abuse of money out of our wallets!

    They are destroying our lives, jobs, and country. What a sad day in America that we have come to this. They would have nothing if it were not for the blood, sweat, and tears of the hardworking Americans who have fought for this country and what we have achieved.

    We need Term Limits, and we need to vote these traitors out of office and replace them with American's First patriots. We need to shrink this bloated government down to the bare minimum and take the damn checkbook away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Thank you for your input and insight JWK.

    These corrupt, lying, swamp rats are so deviant in all the ways they hatch up these plans to tax us to death and rip us off while they get rich through their tax loopholes, never ending wars, insider trading, give themselves raises and make us pay for their Peloton memberships, perks, and benefits!

    And now these evil psychopaths have the GAUL, in our face, to squander our money on trillion-dollar spending bills on illegal aliens and foreign countries who do not deserve a dime of our hard work that we EARNED in our paychecks.

    WE are supplementing the paychecks of corrupt Pakistan military members!!!! We are funding gender studies in Pakistan! We have funded shrimp on treadmills and a host of ridiculous programs these morons cook up in their heads. This is an outrage waste and abuse of money out of our wallets!

    They are destroying our lives, jobs, and country. What a sad day in America that we have come to this. They would have nothing if it were not for the blood, sweat, and tears of the hardworking Americans who have fought for this country and what we have achieved.

    We need Term Limits, and we need to vote these traitors out of office and replace them with American's First patriots. We need to shrink this bloated government down to the bare minimum and take the damn checkbook away from them.
    And let us not forget our corrupted and traitorous media which works in concert with our domestic enemies to weaken and destroy the United States from within.

    JWK



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    FairTax Co-sponsors avoid defending its Family Consumption Allowance entitlement

    I’m still waiting for one Republican House member who supports the FairTax Act to exhibit the courage of their belief and explain why they embrace creating a new Federal entitlement called the Family Consumption Allowance.

    Why is it that not one of the twenty-five
    FairTax Act’s Co-Sponsors willing to publicly explain why they are so eager to create this new federal entitlement, and make approximately 40 million American citizens dependent upon our federal government for a monthly and rationed supply of tax-free necessities of life? Is their silence not suspicious to say the least?

    As Hamilton pointed out: A POWER OVER A MAN’s SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL ____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers
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