Thread: Ron Paul's electability

Originally Posted by MW

This may surprise conservatives, but bar Tom Tancredo, Paul is also the only candidate who'll seriously reduce undesirable immigration.

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with that statement! Duncan Hunter has been working to stop illegal immigration for more years than both, Paul and Tancredo.

jjmm wrote:


[quote:1zugvoz2]I just worry that he would pull troops out too quickly. I suppose he also realy believes we don't have to fight for freedom in places abroad, but that just seems sort of naive. I worry he will be, exactly that -- naive on military matters. I don't know. Need to study it more.

Personally, I think your worries are warranted. After exhaustive research on Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter, I've come to the sound conclusion that Hunter is the only suitable candidate, of the three, to sit as our next Commander-In-Chief. [/quote:1zugvoz2]

I don't think Ron Paul is naive about military matters. In fact, I think he's quite the intellectual in many areas. We have been conditioned to believe that it is our duty to police the world and start wars. I used to believe this strategy as well. But it was all coming from my sense of fear after 9-11.

For our very survival as a nation, we must break this chain of accepting whatever the MSM tells us. Always keep this in mind: If these pre-emptive wars are part of Bush's global war on terrorism, why then after 6 years our borders still remain open?? No one has ever been able to answer this question. And that is because our current foreign policy has NOTHING to do with fighting terrorism. I know it's difficult for some people to rationalize because we want to believe in our president and our government. But it's time to start thinking rationally and not emotionally.

The only negative I have about Hunter as with Tancredo is their pro stance on pre-emptive wars. They are for going into Iran. We cannot continue this dangerous foreign policy. As Paul said in a speech on CSPAN this past weekend, the real threat to us is not external but "internal."

Originally Posted by chloe24

Originally Posted by MW

This may surprise conservatives, but bar Tom Tancredo, Paul is also the only candidate who'll seriously reduce undesirable immigration.

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with that statement! Duncan Hunter has been working to stop illegal immigration for more years than both, Paul and Tancredo.

jjmm wrote:


[quote:3r3ttca2]I just worry that he would pull troops out too quickly. I suppose he also realy believes we don't have to fight for freedom in places abroad, but that just seems sort of naive. I worry he will be, exactly that -- naive on military matters. I don't know. Need to study it more.

Personally, I think your worries are warranted. After exhaustive research on Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter, I've come to the sound conclusion that Hunter is the only suitable candidate, of the three, to sit as our next Commander-In-Chief.

I don't think Ron Paul is naive about military matters. In fact, I think he's quite the intellectual in many areas. We have been conditioned to believe that it is our duty to police the world and start wars. I used to believe this strategy as well. But it was all coming from my sense of fear after 9-11.

For our very survival as a nation, we must break this chain of accepting whatever the MSM tells us. Always keep this in mind: If these pre-emptive wars are part of Bush's global war on terrorism, why then after 6 years our borders still remain open?? No one has ever been able to answer this question. And that is because our current foreign policy has NOTHING to do with fighting terrorism. I know it's difficult for some people to rationalize because we want to believe in our president and our government. But it's time to start thinking rationally and not emotionally.

The only negative I have about Hunter as with Tancredo is their pro stance on pre-emptive wars. They are for going into Iran. We cannot continue this dangerous foreign policy. As Paul said in a speech on CSPAN this past weekend, the real threat to us is not external but "internal."[/quote:3r3ttca2]

I agee about Ron Paul. After I looked into his past record and listened to him speak. I too believe he is a very intelligent man . I think he is very capable of leadng America and bringing about positive change. It is obvious that instead of policeing the world ,we need to be taking care of our countrys borders and do what is best for our people. Paul firmly believes this and I agree with him!!!

Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:26 PM by Chuck Todd


***UPDATE***Correction: An earlier version of this post had incorrect straw poll results. Romney was NOT fourth, but second. The post below is now correct.

From NBC/NJ's Erin McPike
SPARKS, Nev. – Ron Paul won the GOP presidential straw poll conducted by organizers at the Conservative Leadership Conference held at the Nugget Casino this weekend “by a large margin,â€

[quote="AmericansNeverQuit"]Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:26 PM by Chuck Todd


***UPDATE***Correction: An earlier version of this post had incorrect straw poll results. Romney was NOT fourth, but second. The post below is now correct.

From NBC/NJ's Erin McPike
SPARKS, Nev. – Ron Paul won the GOP presidential straw poll conducted by organizers at the Conservative Leadership Conference held at the Nugget Casino this weekend “by a large margin,â€

[quote="AmericansNeverQuit"]Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:26 PM by Chuck Todd


***UPDATE***Correction: An earlier version of this post had incorrect straw poll results. Romney was NOT fourth, but second. The post below is now correct.

From NBC/NJ's Erin McPike
SPARKS, Nev. – Ron Paul won the GOP presidential straw poll conducted by organizers at the Conservative Leadership Conference held at the Nugget Casino this weekend “by a large margin,â€

Originally Posted by jjmm

I am really ok with Paul (would rather have Tancredo or Hunter), but I just worry that he would pull troops out too quickly. I suppose he also realy believes we don't have to fight for freedom in places abroad, but that just seems sort of naive. I worry he will be, exactly that -- naive on military matters. I don't know. Need to study it more.

I like how he's gaining momentum, though -- any momentum away from the Hildebeast is good.

How about Thompson? I like his back to federalism stance. Could these two ever combine?

Nah, probably not. Running mates also matter.

He is a member of CFR... enough said

Originally Posted by MW

This may surprise conservatives, but bar Tom Tancredo, Paul is also the only candidate who'll seriously reduce undesirable immigration.

I'm sorry but I have to take issue with that statement! Duncan Hunter has been working to stop illegal immigration for more years than both, Paul and Tancredo.

jjmm wrote:


[quote:1ahaz9b2]I just worry that he would pull troops out too quickly. I suppose he also realy believes we don't have to fight for freedom in places abroad, but that just seems sort of naive. I worry he will be, exactly that -- naive on military matters. I don't know. Need to study it more.

Personally, I think your worries are warranted. After exhaustive research on Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter, I've come to the sound conclusion that Hunter is the only suitable candidate, of the three, to sit as our next Commander-In-Chief. [/quote:1ahaz9b2]

Paul is the only one of the 3 that is even remotely electable.

Pistov wrote:

Paul is the only one of the 3 that is even remotely electable.

I absolutely couldn't disagree more! Actually, I think Duncan Hunter is the only one of the three that can beat the Hildabeast.

Paul is the only one of the 3 that is even remotely electable.

No. All the candidates will enter the White House knowing as much about what to do as we do, maybe even less after two years of campaigning. A Republican or Democrat will enter office and then depend on the existing system while proceeding cautiously. Yes, even Hillary in spite of her pandering. Ron Paul might be zealot enough to be the exception. The majority of folks are not going to bet their lives, the lives of their families that this guy is right and the world will fall into line with his reality. People alone in the booth will opt for someone more comfortable, more uh...conservative. Sorry, no candidates from the wingtips are going to make it.

Any chance of him teaming up with T. Tancredo? I
That would be a dead lock for me as they both have good points. RP- the fed reserve syst & T. Tancredo Immigration.