Thread: San Diego tech companies can't fill thousands of jobs

These businesses will continue to hire slave labor from foreign countries until our government refuses to hand out worker visas. That is when it will stop. When our government finally says too bad, so sorry, but it is your business and your problem. Hire Americans. There are tons of IT workers.

Originally Posted by redpony353

These businesses will continue to hire slave labor from foreign countries until our government refuses to hand out worker visas. That is when it will stop. When our government finally says too bad, so sorry, but it is your business and your problem. Hire Americans. There are tons of IT workers.

100% spot on redpony! Also, if they still can't "find" any American IT workers, they can take few million Americans and TRAIN them to do the jobs. Problems solved! NO MORE "worker" visas!

Originally Posted by miguelina

Originally Posted by redpony353

These businesses will continue to hire slave labor from foreign countries until our government refuses to hand out worker visas. That is when it will stop. When our government finally says too bad, so sorry, but it is your business and your problem. Hire Americans. There are tons of IT workers.

100% spot on redpony! Also, if they still can't "find" any American IT workers, they can take few million Americans and TRAIN them to do the jobs. Problems solved! NO MORE "worker" visas!

That's right! It is not brain surgery, just programming. Anyone can be trained to do it. Furthermore, there are PLENTY OF IT WORKERS...PLENTY. When they apply for the jobs, they are not hired. Employers are only advertising these jobs to make it look like they are trying to hire Americans. But they have no intention of hiring Americans. They want to get worker visas so they can hire slaves for 10K a year instead of 100K. And you are right! Train some additional Americans. There is no shortage.

I posted this article to provide info and encouragement to any unemployed American workers who might be qualified for these jobs.

Boy, things sure went negative and downhill from there in a hurry.

Oh well folks. I tried.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

I posted this article to provide info and encouragement to any unemployed American workers who might be qualified for these jobs.

Boy, things sure went negative and downhill from there in a hurry.

Oh well folks. I tried.

Thanks for the info. Let us know when our government stops giving out worker visas to foreigners to replace American IT workers. Then, and only then, will these jobs be available to Americans. It is not negativity, it is reality.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Qualified American workers need to apply for these jobs NOW.

It doesn't really matter. Back in 2002 there were jobs to apply for, but see, these guys really want to find a reason not to hire Americans.

I'd bet the rent that they already have piles and piles of applications from Americans.

I know people who've tried to get jobs where companies really wanted to hire foreign workers. Some even get an interview.

Signs the job ad isn't real include: unrealistic skill set requirements, extremely detailed descriptions of the ideal candidate, and if you have to send it to an address other than the company. (then you are sending it to a law firm who's been paid to disqualify you on some pretext).

I bet they got over 300 applications for every posting.

Here is an article that says the reason they can't hire enough people is that they aren't paying enough.

$93,000. isn't enough?

Managers of San Diego Tech Firms Don't Know How to Run Their Business

Dean Baker, CEPR | Feb. 13, 2011, 1:52 PM | 94 | 1

Dean Baker is the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research

"Managers of San Diego Tech Firms Don't Know How to Run Their Business"
That would have been a better headline for an article in the San Diego Union Tribune than the actual headline:"San Diego tech companies can't fill thousands of jobs." The article begins by telling readers:

"Even though the jobless rate continues to hover in the double digits, there are literally thousands of high-paid job openings in San Diego County just waiting for the applicants with the right skills, according to the leaders of the local high-tech community.

But they say that finding those applicants can be a challenge, partly because of the area’s high cost of living and the lingering perception that San Diego’s more of a beach town than a Silicon Valley South."

There actually is a chart accompanying the article that tells readers why tech firms in San Diego may be having trouble getting workers. Of 14 cities listed on the chart, the pay for tech workers in San Diego, adjusted for living costs, ranks 8th. It is more than 30 percent below the pay in Durham, North Carolina, the top paying city on the list.

If firms in San Diego really want to attract more workers then the trick is paying higher wages. Managers of tech companies should understand the way markets work. If they want to attract workers from other cities then they will have to pay more money, if they are unwilling to pay more money, then there is really no shortage. These firms are simply unwilling to hire people at the prevailing wage.

It is also worth noting that the unfilled tech jobs have little to do with the problem of unemployment in San Diego. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, they are more than 160,000 unemployed people in San Diego. The article reports that there are 6,000 unfilled tech jobs. This means that if every last tech job was filled (there would always be some vacancies due to turnover), it would reduce the number of unemployed by less than 4 percent.

http://www.businessinsider.com/managers ... ess-2011-2

I re-read the original article and found many interesting statements, among them:

The highest unemployment rates are concentrated among low-educated workers: 14.2 percent for high school dropouts compared to 4.2 percent for the four-year college graduates being sought after by high-tech companies.

Re-reading the original article was very interesting.

Originally Posted by BetsyRoss

Something's fishy here. I AM a tech worker, who knows lots more of my kind, and the level of desperation amongst our unemployed kindred is very high. Usually we see complaints like this when the big bosses are gearing up for a campaign to raise the H-1B limits. We're about due for one of those. This is just like when farmers say they can't get workers: then you find out they pay pocket change and there's no transportation (as there often is for illegals who are often brokered by their own bodyshopping industry). Or restaurants. When ICE raided the meatpacking industry in Greeley, the line of local citizen applicants for the vacated jobs stretched around the block.

Exactly.

They will get their visa's and start not only squeezing American's out of their jobs but also out of their city.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

I re-read the original article and found many interesting statements, among them:

The highest unemployment rates are concentrated among low-educated workers: 14.2 percent for high school dropouts compared to 4.2 percent for the four-year college graduates being sought after by high-tech companies.

Re-reading the original article was very interesting.

Yes. Very interesting. IT workers have to work other jobs because they are not allowed in their field of expertise....so they are not counted as unemployed. Sometimes they are stuck in menial jobs that they could have done with no expensive college education...like waiting tables. But of course they are still stuck with the cost of the education.