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    IS THE U.S. NOW OFFICIALLY A MARXIST STATE?
    by Sher Zieve, ©2011


    Does Congress want a dictator? If so, what are they getting in return for allowing it?
    (Jul. 29, 2011) — Despite any and all protestations from the American people–and just as they forced ObamaCare down our throats–Democrat Senators (each and every one of them) have declared they will NOT stop spending We-the-People’s money…period! In fact, in a Wednesday letter sent to Speaker of the House John Boehner, all 53 Marxist-Democrat Senators said they will refuse to pass the House debt ceiling increase ($900Billions) and spending reductions of about the same amount proposal, even before the revised effort (more spending cuts are now appropriately included in the first year) has been read. Instead, they are demanding Sen. Harry Reid’s (and apparently also RINO Sen. Mitch McConnell’s) proposal be swallowed; a bill that demands the debt ceiling be raised by $2.7Trillions! Please note that the spending “cuts
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    Politicians are like teenagers. When they get ahold of your money, they act like it is dad's secret booze stash and then they take the car keys and go crazy with it.
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    The Democ rats certainly do refuse to stop spending and it just isn't them the Repugnants do their share as well.....we need to stop feeding the beast so they can't give it to those special interests buddies.



    GOP support shifts as Boehner adds balanced-budget amendment
    By The Hill Staff - 07/29/11 11:12 AM ET

    House Republicans will attach a balanced-budget amendment to Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) last-ditch debt-ceiling plan, which GOP lawmakers said would move the measure to passage in a high-stakes vote later on Friday.

    Republican lawmakers voiced confidence the enhanced bill would pass muster with conservatives, as Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) predicted the balanced-budget amendment change would bring 10 to 20 more GOP members on board.

    Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), a key holdout, and a Senate candidate, quickly took to Twitter after the meeting to say that he was a yes vote. The conservative Club for Growth also offered a tentative endorsement.

    Republican lawmakers say the Boehner framework would still pave the way for the debt limit to be raised through the 2012 election in two chunks. But it would also mandate that the second hike of the ceiling could only occur after a balanced-budget amendment passed both chambers of Congress and went to the states for ratification.

    The House had scheduled votes on two BBAs for this week. Under the revised Boehner plan, the sending of either to the states, including a version that attracted significant Democratic support in the mid-1990s, would allow for the second debt-ceiling increase.

    The announcement came following perhaps the most crucial conference meeting of Boehner’s Speakership, and less than a day after House GOP leaders stunningly had to pull back on Boehner’s plan to raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit shortly before it was scheduled for a vote.

    Top GOP lawmakers then spent a pizza-fueled Thursday evening arm-twisting hesitant members of the rank and file, before deciding to regroup Friday morning.

    While all eyes were on the House on Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) announced in the morning that his chamber was going to get into the action on Friday — no matter what.

    President Obama also publicly stepped back into the debate on Friday, saying it was clear that any deal that would allow the debt ceiling to be raised by the Aug. 2 deadline would have to be bipartisan — something the House bill, he said, was not.

    Reid, following a conversation with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner that he termed sobering, said on the Senate floor he was bringing his measure to raise the debt ceiling through next year’s election to the chamber floor on Friday.

    “This is likely our last chance to save this nation from default,

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    Boehner Plan = Class Warfare
    By NCPSSM | July 27, 2011

    The Center of Budget and Policy Priorities issued a new analysis last night on Speaker Boehner’s budget proposal. It’s final conclusion is a blistering description of just how the GOP hopes to continue making the rich richer and the rest of us pay for it:

    House Speaker John Boehner’s new budget proposal would essentially require, as the price of raising the debt ceiling again early next year, a choice between deep cuts in the years immediately ahead in Social Security and Medicare benefits for current retirees, repeal of health reform’s coverage expansions, or wholesale evisceration of basic assistance programs for vulnerable Americans.

    The plan is, thus, tantamount to a form of “class warfare.

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    Sen. Reids plan.4. Discretionary spending: When Boehner and Reid introduced their original bills, the numbers for overall discretionary spending were almost identical—oddly so. There was only $1 billion separating the budget authority numbers for fiscal years 2012 and 2013. Beneath that, Boehner’s first bill cut $7 billion from last year’s budget and Reid cut $5 billion. Boehner’s redrafted bill seeks $22 billion in cuts (compared to the Ryan budget that sought $31 billion in cuts). If Boehner started at $7 billion and has jumped up to $22 billion, a middle number would be $15 billion. And that would be half as much as Ryan’s budget. That’s a first-year discretionary spending cut that might work for both sides and reflect a true middle ground.

    5. Other entitlement savings: Reid’s bill is very specific (or at least more specific than Boehner’s bill) about the $70 billion in savings it envisions from changes to non-third rail entitlements. Exempting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, the Reid bill counts $40 billion in savings over 10 years from the elimination of waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid (and hires the investigators to do it—along with agents to tighten up tax enforcement). It also counts $15 billion in broadband spectrum sales and up to $15 billion in savings from agriculture price supports. All of these ideas were passed back and forth during the earlier budget talks with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. They are low-hanging fruit. Boehner’s bill refers to them opaquely but doesn’t’ count them. If Boehner agrees to count them, that could give Reid and Democrats some breathing room when considering the implications of the super committee’s future deficit-reduction proposals—a $70 billion buffer, if you will, to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

    Without question, each of these areas of possible compromise is fraught with peril. For every reason why a compromise might work and is even apparent, there are probably five or 10 reasons why Republicans and Democrats would rather not. But the time for rather not is dwindling. Default is drawing closer and economic anxiety is growing.

    No Way Out isn’t just a movie title. It’s becoming a legislative way of life in this saga. Perhaps the items listed above may prove to be a way out. Quite possibly, there are others. Either way, Congress doesn’t want voters to conclude lawmakers are all “posh and shiny

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    During all this, the thing that amazes me is why is not one of these so called legislators talking of cutting the medicare and social security fraud that goes out to the illegals and the off spring the continually produce...Those services should be the first to be cut ...illegal is still illegal....Now if all of these expenses came out of their own wages up there on the "ant hill" that would be a different story. They came out with a report that 48% of "we the people" are not paying taxes...Well what about the 100% of illegals that are not paying taxes????

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