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    Social Security Going Broke This Year, Congress Warned

    Social Security Will Begin Going Broke This Year, Congress Warned

    Thursday, 25 Mar 2010 03:04 PM

    The bursting of the real-estate bubble and the ensuing recession have hammered jobs, home prices and, now, Social Security.

    This year, the system will pay out more in benefits than it receives in payroll taxes, an important threshold it was not expected to cross until at least 2016, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

    Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the Social Security Administration, said that although the CBO projection would probably be borne out, the change would have no effect on benefits in 2010 and retirees would keep receiving their checks as usual.

    The problem, he said, is that payments have risen more than expected during the downturn, because jobs disappeared and people applied for benefits sooner than they had planned.

    At the same time, the program's revenues have fallen sharply, because millions of jobs have disappeared, leaving fewer paychecks to tax.

    Analysts have long tried to predict the year when Social Security would pay out more than it took in because they view it as a tipping point — the first step of a long, slow march to insolvency, unless Congress strengthens the program's finances.

    "When the level of the trust fund gets to zero, you have to cut benefits," Alan Greenspan, architect of the plan to rescue the Social Security program the last time it got into trouble, in the early 1980s, said Wednesday.

    That episode was more dire because the fund could have fallen to zero in a matter of months. But partly because of steps taken in those years, and partly because of many years of robust economic growth, the latest projections show the program will not exhaust its funds until about 2037.

    Still, Greenspan, who later became chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, said: "I think very much the same issue exists today. Because of the size of the contraction in economic activity, unless we get an immediate and sharp recovery, the revenues of the trust fund will be tracking lower for a number of years."

    The Social Security Administration is expected to issue in a few weeks its own numbers for the current year within the annual report from its board of trustees.

    The administration has six board members: three from the president's Cabinet, two representatives of the public and the Social Security commissioner.

    Though Social Security uses slightly different methods, the official numbers are expected to roughly track the CBO projections, which were one page of a voluminous analysis of the federal budget proposed by President Barack Obama in January.

    Goss said Social Security's annual report last year projected revenues would exceed payouts until at least 2016 because economists expected a quicker, stronger recovery from the crisis.

    Officials foresaw an average unemployment rate of 8.2 percent in 2009 and 8.8 percent this year, though unemployment is hovering at nearly 10 percent.

    Goss emphasized that even the $29 billion shortfall projected for this year was small, relative to the roughly $700 billion that would flow in and out of the system.

    The system, he added, has a balance of about $2.5 trillion that will take decades to deplete.

    Goss said that large cushion could start to grow again if the economy recovers briskly.

    Indeed, the Congressional Budget Office's projection shows the ravages of the recession easing in the next few years, with small surpluses reappearing briefly in 2014 and 2015.


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    "When the level of the trust fund gets to zero, you have to cut benefits," Alan Greenspan, architect of the plan to rescue the Social Security program the last time it got into trouble, in the early 1980s, said Wednesday...

    Welll.....(repetitive movement with right hand unprintable)! This is the same Greenspan who has been giving Fed money away for years. What does he really know? OK, maybe I am being too hard on him, but......

    We've got illegal aliens clamoring to get in on the program, foreign retirees draining other federal money through the SSI program, unemployed Americans opting out for disability retirement, dwindling export revenue, falling employment levels triggering other federal bailouts, which means fewer people now paying into the fund...

    And ugly Alan goes to Congress advocating for immigration reform (last year at Subcommittee hearings). I suppose now he is going to volunteer to fix the retirement system...at taxpayers expense, of course. Probably, Obama would hire him and give him a medal...
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    can I suggest we cut the aid to foreign countries so we can aid our own people ?

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    First they slash Medicare. Social Security will be next to go. Obama and crew must really hate their grandmas.
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    Ive been hearing since I was 19 years old that there would be no SS for us (in my age group - 40's). We have been left to our own devices to find a way to save for retirement. It's been scary being on our own with this -especially when we don't know a thing about investing...
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