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    Ass Backwards: Senate to Shelve Bush Tax Cuts for Individual

    Thursday, September 23, 2010

    Ass Backwards: Senate to Shelve Bush Tax Cuts for Individuals; House to Pass Small Business Tax Cuts

    If ever you want to see tax policies that are ass backwards, look no further than two Congressional tax bills, one should pass but may not even get a vote, the other is seriously misguided but will pass anyway.

    Senate Democrats Ready To Shelve Tax Cut Vote

    TPM reports Senate Dems Ready To Shelve Tax Cut Vote http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... vote-1.php

    A senior Senate Democratic aide told TPM today there won't be a vote on extending the Bush tax cuts in the upper chamber before the November election, a blow to party leaders and President Obama who believed this would have been a winning issue.

    "Absent a stunning turn of events, we're not going to do tax cuts before the election," the aide told TPM.

    "We have a winning message now, why muddy it up with a failed vote, because, of course, Republicans are going to block everything," the aide said.

    Aides for two senators in tough bids have suggested they would take the plunge and vote before the election, but they'd prefer to vote if it means the tax cuts extension could actually be passed. And that's not counting the conservative Democrats who disagree with the majority of the caucus about where the threshold should be -- and lean toward a higher than $250,000 in income definition of the middle class.
    Politics as Usual

    The irony is both parties are blaming each other and both parties are to blame. Certainly the Democrats should have enough votes to pass something given they have a majority. I highly doubt the Republicans would filibuster a tax cut proposal this close to election.

    However, Democrats might not have the votes because of defections. Senate leaders fear those defections, and do not want to risk Democrats being blamed.

    Another, perhaps more likely alternative is that Democrats believe a "winning message" (blaming Republicans) is better than "winning action".

    Either way, taxpayers will suffer.

    Contrary to the what the Democratic fools believe, I think people will blame incumbents not Republicans for failure to pass something. Thus, Republicans have every incentive to do the wrong thing, short of a filibuster.

    The bottom line is the same. Nothing gets done, and both parties are to blame.

    Year End Cliff Gamble on 2% of GDP

    I did not think it would come to this. I was nearly certain there would be a vote and something would pass. It still may. But if TPM is correct, it's now likely this vote is dead.

    Zero Hedge provides some insights into what this all means in The Goverment's "Year End Cliff" Gamble On 2% Of GDP And 10% Of Disposable Income http://www.zerohedge.com/article/goverm ... ble-income

    With mid-term elections a month and a half away, and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts approaching at a rapid pace, the stakes for Obama's dwindling administration on the tax cut extension issue loom. And as Goldman's Alec Phillips demonstrates, the costs of either decision are huge: on one hand, should Obama go ahead and relent to extending all the tax cuts, he will almost guaranteed not be around for a second term due to the avalanche of disappointment in his electorate as he relents on this key promise.

    On the other hand, should he and the republicans be unable to find a compromise and all tax cuts expire, the impact to the economy could be so vast that America's breezy depression will become a full blown hurricane, possibly worse than anything the nation has ever seen.

    Phillips' succinct summary of the downside case is as follows: "Letting all of these provisions expire would subtract nearly 10 percentage points from annualized disposable income growth in Q1 2011, which could translate into a nearly 2 percentage point decline in final demand and nearly that large a drag on GDP in the first half of 2011."

    And it is not just the Bush cuts that are at steak: the year end "cliff" also sees the expiration of the “Making Work Payâ€
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    If it is pushed to the last day folks wouldn't really have any time to liquidate assets and sell property to avoid the increased taxes on capitol gains.
    They need to decide pretty quick...
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