Thread: The Untold Story of Dela -Flight turned back Semtex threat

Just got this in an email. Anyone in Florida here about this?


Haven't heard a thing about this on any national news.

They are trying to keep it quiet, Here's what I heard today on the Bud Hedinger show, and he has an inside contact at the TSA who wants to remain anonymous for fear of losing his job:


Positive hits for Semtex , leading explosive of choice for suicide bombers, on several of the Middle Eastern passengers on . Flight bound from OIA to Atlanta. last Thurs. Bad ID's, all kinds of illegal stuff, pilot turned plane around, went back to International side and told passengers that they had a "credible threat" on the plane, so flight was being diverted at 7:15 last Thurs. Flight 1284 Delta,, from OIA to Altanta......... removed all passengers and screened more baggage........New info from contact at TSA who checked out Middle Easterners....6 men and three women. were detained, and 8 large bottles of hydrogen peroxide (which was seized in German terror plot recently)............. They were interrogated by OPD and FBI and all allowed to go on their way to their final destination.........Saudi Arabia. at 1:00, Middle Easterner female's bag tested positive for Semtex. OIA TSA employee claims they never had a positive for Semtex before this incident. Positives four times on four different machines........according to anonymous TSA employee

Target: Airliners in America
The Untold Story of Delta Flight 1824
By Douglas J. Hagmann
Sunday, September 9, 2007

9 September 2007: The passengers aboard Delta Airlines Flight 1824 flying out of Orlando International Airport last Thursday at 7:15 a.m. heard the following statement over the intercom as they were preparing to taxi onto the runway on their way to Atlanta, Georgia:

Ladies and gentlemen, we have been informed that there is "a credible security risk with this aircraft" and we are returning to the terminal.

Delta Flight 1824 was scheduled to take off at 7:15 a.m. on September 6, 2007, but did not take off until 10:19 -- three hours and 5 minutes behind schedule, landing in Atlanta without incident at 11:52 a.m. This report could have been quite different had it not been for the great work by security officials on-site at the Orlando airport. The events that led to the delay might never have seen the light of day had it not been for those special people who care about bringing the honest truth of the Islamic terrorist threat to the public.

If you rely on official government statements and the major media, the entire incident involving Flight 1824 was "benign" and was never a security risk. It involved 12 people from two families, all of Middle Eastern origin, reportedly carrying suspicious items in their luggage. Again, if you rely on official government statements and the major media, the "suspicious items" inside of checks luggage turned out to be "a bottle that had been covered with tape to prevent leaking."

"It was all benign," said Dave Couvertier, the FBI agent from the Tampa, Florida Orlando FBI office. The flight ultimately took off about 10:20 a.m. without the two families, who were still undergoing FBI questioning at that time. They were ultimately released, stated FBI spokesman Couvertier. Knowing the series of events that caused the abrupt turnaround of Flight 1824, let's see how "benign" this incident really was.

Hardly Benign: What really happened
The Northeast Intelligence Network initially received information about Flight 1824 from a trusted federal source early Thursday, who described an incident that could hardly be considered benign by any standards. This source is one of many federal sources who are "tired of the endless cover-ups" by high-ranking government officials and untruths that are constantly told to the American public about matters related to potential Islamic terrorism "in America, against Americans and on American soil."

In the days that followed receiving this initial information, Doug Hagmann, the director of the Northeast Intelligence Network obtained and developed additional information from this and other well-placed sources, including a passenger, interviewed by Hagmann, who was aboard that flight. The information uncovered during this investigation "could be of the scale of the 9/11 hijackers using revised 2007 tactics," stated Hagmann of the findings. Click HERE or on article title or "read more" above for complete article.

According to the information developed during the course of this investigation, there were at least nine -- and perhaps as many as 12 individuals of Middle Eastern origin who were reportedly traveling from Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia, and then scheduled to catch a flight from Atlanta to their final destination of Saudi Arabia. It was verified that of the 12 people, there were at least six men and three women traveling together.

During a routine test of the baggage, Transportation Security Administration authorities ran the luggage through x-ray detection and then conducted an explosive trace detection of the bags belonging to the 9 Middle Eastern passengers. The x-ray of the bags found questionable items inside the luggage, and the explosive trace detection tests resulted in a "positive hit" for explosives -- specifically, SEMTEX, an explosive commonly used by Islamic terrorists. To be certain, however, the luggage was test no less than 4 times by four different machines and operators. Each time, a "positive hit" for explosives was registered. "The presence of explosive traces was 'no mistake,'" stated one federal source talking to this agency on condition of anonymity.

Due to the multiple independent "hits" for traces of SEMTEX, TSA authorities emptied the luggage in a secured area, and were astonished by what they found. Authorities found 3 jars of Vaseline duct taped together to make one large cylinder. An inspection of this Vaseline-filled cylinder determined that someone had previously removed the Vaseline and replaced it back into the containers, something that was proven by air pockets left within the containers. Based on a thorough inspection of all the luggage belonging to these Middle Eastern passengers, authorities also found multiple strands of electrical wire with the ends stripped of the insulation, thus exposing the copper wire, small eyeglass screw drivers, clocks, cocoa butter, 2 tubs of butter, batteries of various sizes and types, a computer laptop, and multiple bottles of hydrogen peroxide -- 144 ounces in all.

Even more disconcerting, TSA and security officials observed that two of the Middle Eastern men intended for the flight had smeared Vaseline on their arms and neck areas -- a common tactic among hand-to-hand fighters who want the advantage in the event someone tries to grab them or put them in a headlock. Covered by the greasy agent, they are better able to extricate themselves during close-quarters, hand-to-hand fighting.

A closer inspection of the identification possessed by the Middle Eastern passengers determined that three-(3) of the men possessed false or fraudulent credentials. In fact, one of the Middle Eastern men possessed 2 passports with his picture on both, but the passport information was different on each one.

After flight 1824 had returned to the gate, all passengers were made to leave the plane and take their luggage with them. They were all re-screened and after three hours of extensive security inspection of the luggage and aircraft, were allowed to re-board the airplane and continue their journey to Atlanta. According to official sources speaking on condition of anonymity to the Northeast Intelligence Network, the Middle Eastern passengers were taken from the checkpoint to the Orlando Police Station at the airport by police and FBI officials. Ultimately, they were released by federal officials well after flight 1824 had left the airport.

Second incident at the same airport, same circumstances
According to reports from officials speaking on condition of anonymity, a similar incident occurred at the Orlando airport at approximately 1:00 p.m. on the same day -- at the same security checkpoint. On this occasion, it was a female who reportedly possessed some of the same items in her luggage as the previous passengers. In fact, she was a member of the same family, added this source. According to information developed, she was not allowed on the aircraft, although her disposition -- in addition to the disposition of the other two Middle Eastern families, remains undetermined at this time.

These are the facts developed to date about Delta Flight 1824 from Orlando. Our investigation into this matter is continuing, accompanied by the tenacious investigative reporting of Annie Jacobsen, author of Terror in the Skies, Why another 9/11 could happen again. A well-informed investigative journalist about the threat to our air travel, Ms. Jacobsen is on the trail of additional leads related to this incident, and can be reached through her website The Aviation Nation.

Also hot on this story is veteran and nationally recognized radio talk show host Patrick Campbell of WFLA an540 in Orlando, FL. For insight into this and other matters, visit Mr. Campbell's Blog HERE.

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Douglas J. Hagmann, founder & director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, and a multi-state licensed private investigative agency. Hagmann began using his investigative skills and training to fight terrorism and increase public awareness through his website. Doug can be reached at: director@homelandsecurityus.com
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This source is one of many federal sources who are "tired of the endless cover-ups" by high-ranking government officials and untruths that are constantly told to the American public about matters related to potential Islamic terrorism "in America, against Americans and on American soil."

Great, we need whistleblowers big time! Our own government tried to hide the truth about this attempt and they probably hid the truth about 9/11.

Again, if you rely on official government statements and the major media, the "suspicious items" inside of checks luggage turned out to be "a bottle that had been covered with tape to prevent leaking."

This government's elected officials suck, except for a handful of them, that's for sure.

I want to know if they obtained their bio information and immediately deported them.

Great. Just 4 weeks away from my trip to Disney World. And I haven't been back on a plane since 9-11. No sweat, right??

Originally Posted by chloe24

Great. Just 4 weeks away from my trip to Disney World. And I haven't been back on a plane since 9-11. No sweat, right??

Chloe24 just keep your eyes open and alert. IF you see something funny on your plane get the steward. If nothing else, this incident has made them even more alert. Think of it that way. Our son is flying to see us soon and I'm not real happy about it but can't drive.

News like this just makes me distrust more than ever.

Where is the honesty and protection for the American people?? We should have this information to make our own judgements on flying or not. Thank God for whistleblowers! The true American patriots who care about welfare of their fellow Americans!