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    US sends 100 extra troops to remote Syria base after Russia threatens attack

    US sends 100 extra troops to remote Syria base after Russia threatens attack

    Base is used by US special forces to train Syrian fighters who are confronting Islamic State militants

    PUBLISHED : Saturday, 08 September, 2018, 12:32pm
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    More than 100 US Marines were sent as reinforcements to a remote coalition outpost in southern Syria after Russia threatened to attack militants in the area, the Pentagon said.

    The troops were flown by helicopter to the base at At Tanf – a small town near the borders of Syria, Iraq and Jordan. The base is used by US special forces to train Syrian fighters who are confronting Islamic State militants.

    Moscow has sent multiple messages to the US in recent days, warning that it and Syrian regime units were planning an attack on what they refer to as “terrorists” near Tanf, US officials said.

    The Russian threats may be a way of testing US resolve to keep troops in Syria now that President Bashar al-Assad’s forces, backed by Russian troops and warplanes, have succeeded in defeating rebels everywhere except Idlib province and areas of eastern Syria controlled by the US and its allies.

    US military officials bluntly warned Russian and Syria not to go forward with an attack within an almost 50km security zone that the US maintains around Tanf, a key strategic outpost.

    “The United States does not seek to fight the Russians, the government of Syria or any groups that may be providing support to Syria in the Syrian civil war,” said Lieutenant Colonel Earl Brown, a spokesman for US Central Command.

    “However, the United States will not hesitate to use necessary and proportionate force to defend US, coalition or partner forces.”

    Russia is al-Assad’s top international backer; its support, including aircraft, special forces and mercenaries, enabled him to reverse the course of his country’s seven-year civil war, which has killed hundreds of thousands of people and displaced millions more.

    Donald Trump warns Syria not to attack rebel-held Idlib province: ‘hundreds of thousands of people could be killed’


    Successive Russian-backed campaigns over the last two years have seen the government retake every major opposition bastion, offering fighters who refused to lay down their arms safe passage to Idlib.

    The US Central Command said the troops sent to Tanf would conduct a multi-day exercise using live ammunition.

    US officials who work on the Syria issue have said in recent days that the administration is now resolved to stay in Syria longer than President Donald Trump previously indicated, to finish the fight against Islamic State but also to see the withdrawal of Iranian fighters.



    Previously, Trump said he wanted American troops out of Syria as soon as possible, and has redirected millions of dollars meant to help rebuild Syria to other projects.

    Russian warplanes have been carrying out intense air strikes in Syria’s northwest, pounding rebel-held areas in Idlib province and surrounding regions that have become the last sanctuary for the opposition to al-Assad.

    Russian military officials first informed the US on September 1 through a special communication channel that they “that they intended to enter the At Tanf deconfliction zone to pursue terrorists,” Brown said.

    Pentagon officials said that Russia’s threat to carry out precision strikes suggested it might be contemplating use of air strikes, missiles, long-range artillery or bombardment from Russian naval vessels in the Mediterranean against Tanf.



    Such an attack might prompt the US to respond with punishing reprisals using similar weapons, especially if a Russian attack caused casualties to US or its allies, officials said.

    Moscow has previously agreed not to enter the zone around Tanf, Brown said.

    “We expect the Russians to abide by this agreement.”

    Administration officials are at least giving lip service to the need for a stronger diplomatic push, in part because of the competing agendas of numerous factions fighting in the region.

    On Friday, for example, the presidents of Iran, Russia and Turkey, all of whom have fighters in Syria, held a summit in Tehran to plot their next moves.

    But Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Iran’s Hassan Rowhani failed to agree on a ceasefire, apparently dooming any effort to slow an Assad assault on Idlib and the likely devastating toll it would take on several million civilians who live in the area.

    Turkey, which has largely backed opposition forces, sought the ceasefire. Putin rejected it, claiming that the possible fate of civilians was being used as a “pretext” to ease pressure on what he called terrorists.

    Also Friday, at the United Nations, the Syrian ambassador Bashar al-Jaafari declared his government’s determined to move on rebel-held Idlib to wipe out what he called factions associated with “terrorist groups”.

    An attack last February by Russian mercenaries on another US base in eastern Syria was repulsed by the US with ferocious air strikes and artillery barrages, resulting in dozens of Russian casualties. The Russian government denied any role in the attack.

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    I honestly trust Russia to wipe out these terrorists and help Syria to end this rebellion and civil war. We need to back off and back out of a place we should have NEVER been involved with in the first place and let Russia finish this so this whole country, not just parts of it, can start anew in peace and civility and rebuild what was a very nice cosmopolitan country.
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    Russia isn't going to kill "hundreds of thousands of people". Nikki Haley, back off, let Russia FINISH THIS disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    US sends 100 extra troops to remote Syria base after Russia threatens attack

    Send those 100 troops to the Barry Goldwater Air Force Base to guard the Southern Border from invaders. Since that stretch is military the Border Control does not patrol there, and the military (I assume are under orders from their CIC and DOD to look the other way) are allowing the invaders to walk right in.

    Hard to believe isn't it! Invaders marching right on through our military bases. Unbelievable! Yet, we are sending troops to Syria.
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    Turkey warns Russia an attack on Idlib will turn it into ‘lake of blood’

    Erdoğan pleads with Putin not to launch offensive on Syrian opposition enclave

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    Sat 8 Sep 2018 11.56 EDT
    Last modified on Sat 8 Sep 2018 13.45 EDT


    Turkey has warned it will not stand by and watch a Russian-led attack on Syria’s Idlib province, which it said could turn the densely-packed north west of the country into a “lake of blood” and force an overwhelming exodus of refugees.

    Speaking hours after a three-way summit in Tehran at which the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, pleaded with Russia and Iran to halt any forthcoming offensive, Erdoğan ramped up his rhetoric, insisting Ankara would not participate in “furthering the interests of Bashar al-Assad”.


    Vladimir Putin had earlier rejected Erdoğan’s calls for a ceasefire in Idlib, the last opposition stronghold in Syria. The Russian president holds the key to the forthcoming operation – the most significant in a series of Russian and Iranian-led victories across the country.


    “We will neither watch from the sidelines nor participate in such a game,” Erdoğan said in a message on Twitter. Turkish government spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said on Saturday:

    “Idlib is a ticking bomb. We can turn it off and start a new process in Syria if the international community gets serious about the Syrian war and shows that they do care about the Syrian people.” Meanwhile, Russian jets renewed their bombardment of southern Idlib, intensively attacking the city of al-Habit, killing four people.

    Russian jets also struck in the east of the province.


    After seven years of war, Idlib has become the focus of a struggle that has spilled well beyond Syria’s borders, transforming the conflict into one of the most complex and consequential battlefields of modern times.


    At the heart of global concerns are an estimated
    3 million people crammed into Idlib and its surrounds, at least half of whom have fled vanquished opposition areas. The UN has raised the possibility of humanitarian corridors being opened into areas controlled by Damascus.

    However, many of those now besieged in Idlib say they are not willing, even under bombardment, to risk crossing into government-run areas.


    “The problem is not only Russian and regime jets hovering about,” said Omar, 53, a barber in the province. “The problem is that the Assad regime will eradicate all the civilians who will attempt to go through humanitarian corridors; if they’re not murdered they’ll be sent to jail.

    Civilians are more scared of regime prisons than getting bombed. What you people call humanitarian corridors we call corridors of death and torture. Those who are rooting for corridors are rooting for slow deaths.”


    While the scale of the expected exodus concerns Turkish officials, Ankara is also deeply worried about the implications for its interests in the aftermath of Assad being able to claim a decisive victory just south of the Turkish border. As war has ravaged northern Syria, Turkey has taking an ever more visible stake, carving out a zone of influence that it uses as a buffer both against multiple sides in the conflict – but especially the Kurds.


    Turkey had armed and supported various incarnations of the Free Syria Army, an amorphous group of anti- Assad fighters who have lately coalesced into an alliance known as the Northern Front. Turkey had helped raise and train groups within the organisation to fight Assad, but earlier this year co-opted them to oust Kurdish forces from Afrin, just south of its border.


    That victory mean Kurds were pushed back from the frontier with Syria, from west of the Euphrates river, giving Turkey more leverage to shape its interests. Renewed chaos in Idlib could potentially jeopardise such gains, and draw its proxies into the crosshairs of the Russian air force, which played decisive roles in the battles for east Aleppo and eastern Ghouta, both of which have been returned to regime control.


    Turkey has positioned some of its own forces in 12 small bases in Syria, to safeguard its interests and make it notionally more difficult for a full-scale attack to be launched. “Russian jet fighters and the regime ground forces cannot afford attacks while Turkish soldiers are there,” Kalin said. “We know that they do not care about civilians and legitimate, moderate opposition forces.”


    Russia has demanded that Erdoğan force the withdrawal of jihadist forces from Idlib, a role Ankara said it could not play. Jihadists are mixed within opposition units in the province and have held sway within a large opposition alliance known as Tahrir al-Sham. Putin said in Tehran on Friday that an offensive would be launched imminently if jihadist groups failed to leave.


    Kalin warned of a renewed exodus to Europe if attack orders were given.
    “Any attack on this province of 3.5 million people … will trigger another wave of migration into Turkey and from there to Europe and elsewhere,” he said. Turkey has largely completed a wall along its 500-mile border with Syria, meaning people trying to flee would face a much more difficult task than in 2012-15, when up to 3 million refugees made their way to Europe.

    Abu Mukhtar, an unemployed 48-year-old Idlib resident, said the Tehran summit had temporarily calmed nerves. “It’s not so bad at the moment,” he said. “People are feeling a bit more relieved after the Turkish-Iranian-Russian truce. But the people around me here are having no talks of humanitarian corridors and fleeing. Who believes a Russian anyway?”

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    It's all hype. Wake Up!!! Geez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Send those 100 troops to the Barry Goldwater Air Force Base to guard the Southern Border from invaders. Since that stretch is military the Border Control does not patrol there, and the military (I assume are under orders from their CIC and DOD to look the other way) are allowing the invaders to walk right in.

    Hard to believe isn't it! Invaders marching right on through our military bases. Unbelievable! Yet, we are sending troops to Syria.
    They aren't new troops, they're troops from another section of Syria sent by helicopter to the outpost near this particular area where the new attacks are going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Russia isn't going to kill "hundreds of thousands of people". Nikki Haley, back off, let Russia FINISH THIS disaster.
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    President Bashar al-Assad of Syria must not recklessly attack Idlib Province. The Russians and Iranians would be making a grave humanitarian mistake to take part in this potential human tragedy. Hundreds of thousands of people could be killed. Don’t let that happen!

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    Russia has no intention of "letting that happen". Russia is going to finish this, and rightly so. You want to start a civil war? You better be willing to pay the price for it yourselves. These rebels have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, many of them they killed, caused millions of refugees flooding innocent countries who wanted none of this and deserved none of this. I despise these rebels. I hope Russia wipes every single one of them out of this world into the next. There's 35,000 of these ISIS, Al Qaeda and other "Rebels". WIPE THEM OFF THE MAP STRAIGHT INTO THE HELL THEY DESERVE.
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