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07-13-2009, 04:32 PM #1
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Congress Asked to Probe Troops Extremist Fringe SPLC
Congress Asked to Probe Troops Extremist Fringe
Friday, July 10, 2009 9:55 PM
WASHINGTON -- One of the country's main monitors of hate groups asked Congress Friday to investigate possible racial extremism in the military, after finding U.S. service members participating on a social networking site advertised as being for white people only.
Researchers from the Southern Poverty Law Center, based in Montgomery, Ala., identified about 40 personal profiles of people who list the military as their occupation on the Web site New Saxon, according to the group's founder, Morris Dees.
The site, run by the Detroit-based National Socialist Movement, describes itself as an "online community for whites by whites." He said some of the participants are wearing military uniforms in profile photos, although it was not possible to verify whether any of them are actually serving in the armed forces.
Examples that Dees cited from the Web page include:
_A person claiming to be in Iraq, who writes that he "hate(s) illegal immigrants with a passion and feel(s) every true red-blooded, white American should do whatever it takes to stop the foreign invasion."
_One who said he was serving in Afghanistan lists as his favorite book, "The Turner Diaries." The novel is a favorite of white supremacists.
"We urge your committees to investigate the threat posed by racial extremists who may be serving in the military to ensure that our armed forces are not inadvertently training future domestic terrorists," Dees wrote in a letter addressed to four congressional committee chairmen.
Dees said existing Pentagon regulations that prohibit active participation in extremists groups should be strengthened further.
Lt. Col. Les' A. Melnyk, a Pentagon spokesman, said in an e-mail that current policy is believed to be sufficient. Under it, military personnel "must reject" participation in organizations that espouse supremacist causes.
"We believe the policy ... is broad and inclusive in its definition of 'active participation,' and encourages commanders to pursue and weed out service members who actively participate in these types of groups," Melnyk said.
Jeff Schoep, commander of the National Socialist Movement, said there are members of the military who participate on the site, but not all are members of his organization. He could not say how many there are.
When violent material is found on the site, Schoep said, it is removed and the offender faces losing future privileges.
He said there are more "racialists" in the military now, but those who are members of his organization are advised not to recruit others.
"If they just mind their P's and Q's in there, and are good soldiers and do their jobs, then they have every right to be there just like anybody else," Schoep said.
Julie Ziegenhorn, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said in an e-mail that as a matter of policy the Department of Defense doesn't block or prohibit access to Web sites on the basis of content. But she said commanders in the field have the option to block access on governmeny computers to sites they deem inappropriate.
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07-13-2009, 04:43 PM #2
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Is this for real or another government witch hunt?
I am uncomfortable when they talk about hate groups or right-wing groups because almost every American could be considered a right-winger.
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07-13-2009, 05:05 PM #3
Like I have said before, you can't force people to like one another. Yes it would be nice, but people of different races naturally congregate with the same. At work, whites, blacks and mexicans work together but on break, they all go to the table where their race sits. We have little Havana, Korea town, China town etc. In our cities you have the black area, mexican area etc. There are exceptions to the rule however.... You can't FORCE people to like one another I thinksome people, for the most part, don't talk about their true feelings because it is socially unacceptable to be prejudiced.
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07-13-2009, 05:27 PM #4
Yea, but Morris Dees and the SPLC do not consider MS-13 a racist hate group even though they are killing people each week in America and targeting blacks because of their race.
Morris Dees and SPLC believe racism and hate is a one way street to be politically used against some groups but not others.
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07-13-2009, 11:36 PM #5
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who the hell cares what morris dees thinks or wants.
Last time i looked, we do have freedom of speech, have the freedom to belong to what ever group we want to belong to and too bad if it makes one person mad.
where is the black panthers, MS 13, and all those other gangs in the hate
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