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08-04-2012, 09:14 PM #1Senior Member
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Sadly, in the wake of the recent shootings in Aurora, Colorado there is all kinds of talk in the mainstream media about the need to ban guns.
But the truth is that crime always seems to go up in U.S. cities where guns are banned.
Just look at Chicago, Illinois.
Strict gun laws were supposed to greatly reduce crime in Chicago, but today Chicago is being called "the deadliest global city".
If you look outside of the United States you see similar results.
A recent article by Mac Slavo of shtfplan.com contained some statistics about how crime has risen in Australia since guns were banned....
Armed Robberies are UP 69%
Assaults Involving Guns are UP 28%
Gun Murders are UP 19%
Well, what about areas where gun ownership has been allowed to flourish?
The following is from a recent article by my friend J. Vanne in which he detailed how guns have helped to reduce crime in many areas of the United States....
As a matter of fact, Gun Owners of America, cites statistics indicating guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense, or around 80 times a day (other statistics estimate this number could range as low as 1.5 million, but either number is a lot!). This includes 200,000 women a year using guns to defend themselves against sexual abuse. As a matter of fact, as of 2008, armed citizens killed more violent bad guys than the police (1,527 vs. 606).The criminals are always going to be able to get guns.
It appears George Washington had it right, when he said “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.”
What about concealed carry?
Statistics from the recent past show states that passed concealed carry reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5% and robbery by 3%. Florida, which passed concealed carry in 1987, saw its higher than average homicide rate drop 52% during the following 15 years after passage, to below the national average.
This has been proven over and over and over.
But if criminals know that they are likely to get shot if they commit a crime, then that is going to make them a lot more hesitant to do so.
In addition, gun ownership is not just about preventing crime and it is not just about hunting either.
Our founding fathers felt very strongly about gun ownership for some very fundamental reasons that Ben Swann detailed in a recent "Reality Check" segment about the Second Amendment....
So what do you think about all of this?
Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below....

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August 3rd, 2012 | Tags: 65 Year Old Woman, Criminals, Family, Gun, Guns, Home, Home Invasions, Jewelry Store, Psychos | Category: Crime
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08-04-2012, 09:17 PM #2Senior Member
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Watch what happens when Guns are banned in Australia
Published on Jul 23, 2012 by TheAwakenedMedia
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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Gun bans - Don't think it can happen, watch
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Suzanna Gratia-Hupp Second Amendment
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The Second Amendment
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Obama Pushes Anti-Gun Treaty
Uploaded by sustainablehome on May 1, 2009
President Obama supports an international treaty creating sweeping gun control efforts.
For the full text of this treaty, go here:
INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS
I want to thank DontBeObamaZombies for providing the following information/links:
WORLDNETDAILY- Next step? No guns allowed for right-wing 'extremists'
Next step? No guns allowed for right-wing ‘extremists’
House Bill Aims to Strip Rightwing Extremists of Second Amendment Right
http://www.infowars.com/house-bill-aims-to-strip-rightwing-extremists-of-seco...
House Demands Full Disclosure On DHS "Right-wing Extremism" Report
House Demands Full Disclosure On DHS "Right-wing Extremism" Report
IT IS GETTING VERY SERIOUS NOW By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin -- It Is Getting Very Serious Now
*You might want to see/link this video as well
Commie Rahm Emanuel to Disarm America:"#1 Issue", Gun Owners are Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vp7f1QKYmg
Response I received from Dianne Feinstein, as sent (if you would like me to forward this to you, send me a message with your email address ... interesting how they altered the original message):
Thank you for writing to express your opposition to the ratification of the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials (CIFTA). I appreciate hearing from you on this topic and welcome the opportunity to respond.
While I understand your concerns about the ratification of CIFTA, I strongly believe that the U.S. should act promptly to take up and ratify this convention. For many years, I have been concerned about the proliferation of firearms worldwide. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Bosnia, Rwanda, and Haiti, the proliferation of firearms and light other weapons undermines peace, stability, economic growth, and harms U.S. national security interests.
Specifically, the illicit trafficking of firearms from the U.S. has helped to exacerbate recent violence amid drug cartels in Mexico. Recent cCongressional testimony provided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms & Explosives (ATF) revealed that approximately 90 percent of traced weaponsconfiscated firearms used by cartels come from thewere traced to the U.S. It is estimated that, with 2,000 guns per day crossing the border from the U.S. into Mexico. Further, 6,000 people were killed in Mexico last year due to drug-related violence, with another 1,000 people killed in January 2009 alone. I believe that the ratification of CIFTA will help to combat the threat of narcotics trafficking and illegal arms transfers in Mexico and Central America, and provide an unequivocal statement that the U.S. is serious about stemming the tide of weapons flowing into the region.
Again, thank you for writing. While we do not necessarily agree on this particular issue, your views are important to me, and I hope that you will continue to write on matters of importance to you. Should you have any further comments or questions, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
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Gun Control in the UK & Their Warning to the U.S.
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08-08-2012, 10:13 AM #10
outlaw the guns, the only ones who will have guns are the outlaws! Stupidity!


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