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WW3? RUSSIA DEMANDS AMERICA Stop Flying Airstikes in SYRIA As It Begins Launching Its Own!
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Published on Sep 30, 2015
Putin is on the move. Russia has now launched its own airstrikes over Homs, Syria, where the Free Syrian Army is located (not ISIS), after demanding that America vacate its aircraft from the Syrian airspace.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx9rvhbNr7I

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7boTdswhHe8

Here's the deal. Our country is crumbling and falling apart. We've spent trillions of dollars we didn't have, lost thousands of lives, damaged the lives of tens of thousands of others fighting wars in the Middle East. The result is chaos and fanaticism everywhere, not the liberty and prosperity we had hoped to give the people of the Middle East.

It's time for American troops to come home. Pursuing a regime change in Syria was not a goal of the American People. It was the goal of someone in our government. Let Russia restore order in Syria. Bring our troops and resources home. Stop spending money there achieving nothing that is in our national interest. Make friends with Russia, build good mutually beneficial relationships, and let Russia do what it feels it needs to do in Syria which has been requested by Assad who is the legitimate leader of the still legitimate government of Syria.

We want countries to respect our borders, to respect our sovereignty, to respect our government. Well, that starts with our respecting the borders, sovereignty and governments of other nations.

The Russian airstrikes in Syria were requested by Syria to help them restore order so all these refugees can return to their homes, whether they want to or not. It's their country, that's where they belong, and that's where they need to go and stay.

Let Russia handle it. We've been in the Middle East fighting for 13 years with no end game, no stability, no order, no peace, no result worth even a tiny portion of the money and lives we've expended.

Russian airstrikes in Syria 'OK' with Trump

By MJ Lee, CNN Politics Reporter
Updated 9:26 PM ET, Wed September 30, 2015

New York, New York (CNN)If Vladimir Putin wants to launch airstrikes inside Syria, that's no problem for Donald Trump, who said Wednesday that he believes Russia's military moves in Syria are targeting ISIS and that the United States shouldn't interfere.

"They don't respect our president. They really don't respect us anymore. And that's why they're doing this," Trump told CNN's Don Lemon in a wide-ranging interview at Trump Tower Wednesday. "At the same time, if they want to hit ISIS, that's OK with me."

Trump's remarks came in response to the latest escalation of tensions in the Middle East, where Russia launched its first airstrikes in Syria. Moscow claims the target is ISIS.

Related: Russia launches first airstrikes in Syria

However, top U.S. officials have raised questions about the real motivations behind the strikes. U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said it appeared they were "in areas where there probably were not ISIL forces."

"The result of this kind of action will inevitably, simply be to inflame the civil war in Syria," Carter said.

Trump told CNN Wednesday that he tends to believe Russia's goal is to go after ISIS and that the U.S. shouldn't strive to be the "policemen of the world."

"I hear they are hitting both," said Trump, apparently referring to ISIS and non-ISIS Syrian opposition forces.

"If Russia wants to go in and if Russia want to fight -- in particular ISIS, and they do and one of the reasons they do is because they don't want ISIS coming into their country and that's going to be the next step. So that's why they're there," Trump said. "I think they will be fighting ISIS."

He called Syrian President Bashar al-Assad a "bad guy" who has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and that Russia is "probably trying to prop up Assad and help him out."

"We always give weapons, we give billions of dollars in weapons and then they turn them against us. We have no control. So we don't know the other people that we're supposed to be backing," Trump said of U.S. involvement in the region. "We don't even know who we are backing."

The turmoil on the other side of the world has triggered a refugee crisis, with thousands fleeing violence in countries like Syria and Iraq.

Obama said the United States will accept at least 10,000 Syrian refugees into the country next year -- a number that some Democrats and humanitarian groups have said it much too low. The Obama administration recently said the total number will be increased to 85,000 in 2016 and 100,000 in 2017.

Many Republicans, including Trump, are critical of the decision to accept refugees from the region at all, arguing the process could be exploited by terrorists attempting to travel to the U.S. to do harm.

Trump on Wednesday went one step beyond that. He told CNN the U.S. shouldn't accept people that "may be ISIS," and vowed that as president, he would expel the refugees let in by the Obama administration.

"We have no idea who they are. We have no idea where they come from. And I'm just telling you right now, they may come in, through the weakness of Obama, but they're going out if I become president," Trump said. "They will not stay here. They are going back to Syria, whether it's safe zones or whatever."

In his first months as a presidential candidate, Trump has discussed foreign policy in largely sweeping terms. The campaign has yet to release anything formal on how Trump would handle national security issues or what kind of commander-in-chief he would strive to be.

Pressed repeatedly about his lack of foreign policy proposals, Trump said it's important to be "unpredictable."

"I don't like talking so specific -- I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, like a fool," he said. "I want to be unpredictable."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/politi...mon/index.html

Trumps right. Airstrikes OK.

If anyone in our government watched television and saw these masses of emigrants, they would know there is no time to waste and that's why Russia has responded so quickly, that and to contain the element of surprise.

They can't prop up government forces without removing the rebels from the fray which is why they attacked some of these positions first because they're so close to government forces and were controlling roads and so forth more or less trapping Assad's forces from being able to go out and attack both the rebels and ISIS whose strongholds are much farther away.

OCT 1 2015, 12:47 AM ET

Afghan Forces Take Kunduz Back From Taliban, Officials Say

by FAZUL RAHIM and PHIL HELSEL

Military favors keeping some troops in Afghanistan past 2016 1:08

Afghan forces have retaken the city center of Kunduz, the city seized by the Taliban this week in a stunning setback to the Western-backed government, Afghan officials said.

Heavy fighting was reported overnight and sporadic gunfire was heard in the northern Afghanistan city early Thursday, a resident said.

Reinforcements of Afghan security forces from Kabul arrive to join operations attempting to regain from the Taliban the city of Kunduz, Afghanistan, Sept. 30, 2015. JAWED KARGAR / EPA

Afghan forces, supported by U.S. airstrikes,launched an offensive to recapture the city after it became the first city seized by the Taliban in 14 years.

"The enemy did resist in outskirts of the city and sustained very heavy casualties, but the city center was cleared without much resistance," Afghan ministry of interior spokesperson Sediq Sediqqi told NBC News.

"A massive search and clear operation is underway in all Kunduz city right now and there are pockets of resistance in the outskirts of the city," Sediqqi said.

U.S. Launches Airstrikes Against Taliban to Retake City of Kunduz 2:32

The Afghan ministry of defense said in a statement Thursday that 150 enemy forces were killed and over 90 injured. It claimed there had been no reports of civilian casualties.

The defense ministry said the attack to retake Kunduz began at 10 p.m. local time Wednesday and at 7 a.m. Thursday Afghan forces recaptured a fort that fell to the Taliban Wednesday.

U.S. forces launched airstrikes during the counterattack and a "limited number of coalition forces" were on the ground advising Afghan forces, a coalition spokesman has said.

The Taliban seized part of Kunduz on Monday, and the last Afghan government-held outpost fell to the insurgent fighters on Wednesday.

More than 60 Afghan soldiers surrendered to the militants when the city's fort fell, according to one army officer who managed to flee with about 40 of his men.

By Thursday morning government troops were taking down Taliban flags and searching homes, said Ghulam Shah, who lives in the city center.

"They [government troops] told us to rest assured the city is cleared of Taliban," Shah said. "...As I was walking back, saw a large number of Taliban bodies on a national army truck."

Afghan Forces Fight to Retake Kunduz from Taliban 0:33

"Right now the city is calm, but sporadic gun fire can be heard. But we still can hear heavy fighting and explosions in the distance outside the city," Shah said.

Kunduz is a city of about 300,000 about 150 miles north of the Afghan capital of Kabul. It was one of the last strongholds maintained by the Islamist militant group before being driven from power in a 2001 U.S.-led campaign.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/af...ls-say-n436636

Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:31pm EDT

Weapons bound for Yemen seized on Iranian boat: coalition

DUBAI | BY WILLIAM MACLEAN


Weapons, said to be seized by Saudi-led coalition forces on an Iranian boat, are seen in this undated handout released by the Media Office Of Saudi-led Coalition In Yemen.
REUTERS/MEDIA OFFICE OF SAUDI-LED COALITION IN YEMEN/HANDOUT VIA REUTERS

Saudi-led coalition forces said on Wednesday they had seized an Iranian fishing boat loaded with weapons on its way to deliver them to Houthi fighters in Yemen.

The announcement came a day after tribal fighters backed by the coalition won control of a strategic dam in central Yemen from Houthi forces following weeks of fighting east of the capital Sanaa.

The coalition, which also includes Bahrain, Qatar, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, has been battling the Iranian-backed Houthis for more than six months.

It aims to restore to power President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi's government, forced out by the Houthis, and contain what Gulf Arab states see as Tehran's growing influence in their backyard.

As part of the campaign, Saudi-led naval forces have imposed a near-blockade to prevent weapons from reaching the Houthis, resulting in long delays and mandatory searches for shippers in the region.

A coalition statement said 14 Iranian sailors were detained on the boat, which was carrying 18 anti-armored Concourse shells, 54 anti-tank shells, shell-battery kits, firing guidance systems, launchers and batteries for binoculars.

"The Command of the Coalition ... foiled an attempt to smuggle weapons destined to the Houthi militias, on an Iranian fishing boat," the statement said, adding the vessel was seized on Saturday some 150 miles off Salalah in southern Oman.

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There was no immediate comment from Iran.

The coalition has long accused Iran of arming the Houthis, who seized control of Yemen starting in September last year, claiming they were out to fight corruption and to force Hadi to bring them into the government.

BIGGEST GAIN
The seizure of the Marib dam is the biggest success for several weeks for the Yemeni militia fighting alongside Gulf troops. Together they have pushed toward the Houthi-controlled capital Sanaa 110 km (70 miles) west of the dam, but progress has been slowed by landmines and stiff resistance from Houthi forces in rugged mountains.

Pictures on the front pages of Gulf dailies showed the foreign troops and local tribesmen planting the flags of the UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia on the dam.

Two suspected al Qaeda militants were killed in what was believed to be a U.S. drone strike on a vehicle traveling in al-Wadi district in Marib on Wednesday, local tribesmen said.

U.S. forces have conducted many strikes in the area.

Washington acknowledges using drones against militants but does not publicly comment on the operations.

Further to the southwest, pro-Hadi fighters suffered their first significant loss in weeks in Taiz province, where a district fell to the Houthis and their allies in Yemen's army on Tuesday.

Residents and local officials said the Houthis appeared to be mobilizing their forces for a southern push in the nearby area of Kirsh, about 75 km (45 miles) from Aden.

Six months of civil war and hundreds of coalition air strikes have killed more than 5,400 people in Yemen, according to the United Nations, and exacerbated widespread hunger and suffering.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RU0R220150930

NATO General: Russia doesn't fight IS in Syria, but defends Assad

29.09.2015 | Source: Pravda.Ru

AP Photo

General Philip Breedlove, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, is concerned over the military cooperation between Russia and Syria.He believes, that military equipment, which Russia supplies under the contracts with Damascus, serves not for the defence against the IS terrorists, but to defend the regime of Bashar al-Assad."We see some very sophisticated air defenses going into these airfields.

We see some very sophisticated air-to-air aircraft going into these airfields," Breedlove noted at the German Marshall Fund in Washington.He added that the IS group in Syria does not possess such weapons, which would require such sophisticated capabilities.At the same time, the NATO Genaral did not mention that the IS fighters build up their military power, as well as due to no less sophisticated American weapons, which they got from the Syrian militants trained by the US military, as Pravda.Ru reported.

- See more at: http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/....yqXUI0Yi.dpuf

Russia’s First Strikes in Syria Hit U.S. Ally, Not Islamic State

Moscow says its enemy is ISIS, but the initial phase of its air war in Syria hit American-backed rebels battling Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad.

• BY DAVID KENNER
  
• SEPTEMBER 30, 2015

Barack Obama’s administration said Wednesday that it doesn’t know whom Russia is bombing inside Syria. Rebel leaders on the ground there say they know precisely whom Moscow is targeting — and it isn’t the Islamic State.

Instead, Russia’s first airstrikes in Syria — which dominated the final day of the United Nations General Assembly session — appear to have struck a rebel group that likely was vetted by the CIA, uses U.S.-made weapons, and has publicly backed the international coalition fighting the Islamic State. The group is also part of the ad hoc alliance of militias battling the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, which means that the early phase of Moscow’s military intervention will strengthen Assad at least as much as it will weaken the Islamic State.

Jamil al-Saleh, a defected Syrian army officer who is now the leader of the rebel group Tajammu al-Aaza, told AlSouria.net that the Russian airstrikes targeted his group’s base in al-Lataminah, a town in the western Syrian governorate of Hama. That area represents one of the farthest southern points of the rebel advance from the north and is therefore a crucial front line in the war. An alliance of Syrian rebel factions, including both the al Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front and groups considered by Washington to be more moderate, successfully drove Assad regime forces out of the northern governorate of Idlib and are now pushing south into Hama.

Tajammu al-Aaza released a video of the airstrike and its aftermath before Saleh’s statement. Syrian security sources also confirmed that a Russian airstrike took place in al-Lataminah. The Russian Defense Ministry, meanwhile, releaseda video of what it said was one of the strikes.

U.S. officials were quick to criticize the strikes, which they said had hit targets that didn’t appear to be linked to the Islamic State.

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said at the Pentagon that the strikes were in areas “where there probably were not ISIL forces,” using an alternate acronym for the group. White House spokesman Josh Earnest, for his part, told reporters that it was “too early for me to say exactly what targets they were aiming at and what targets were actually hit.”

The strikes come amid a flurry of diplomatic maneuvering at the United Nations, where Moscow and Washington have traded potshots about who is to blame for the rise of the Islamic State and who should take the lead in fighting the group.

In public comments at the United Nations, Russian officials have said that the U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State isn’t working and instead have called for working more closely with Assad and Iran to defeat the group. But rather than spurring cooperation over the shared threat posed by the Islamic State, Moscow’s moves threaten to usher in a new era of conflict with Washington by weakening groups devoted to the fight against Assad while bolstering Tehran’s influence in the region.

Tajammu al-Aaza, for instance, has posted several videos of its fighters deploying U.S.-made anti-tank missiles against Syrian regime forces. One video shows fighters launching a missile at a Syrian army tank stationed at a checkpoint in the Hama countryside.

Experts say those videos show that the group is clearly receiving American weaponry. According to N.R. Jenzen-Jones, the director of specialist technical intelligence consultancy Armament Research Services, or ARES, the video of the attack on the Syrian tank shows a U.S.-made AN/TSQ-136 missile guidance set, consistent with other U.S.-made TOW missile systems that ARES has documented being used in Syria.

According to Jenzen-Jones, the missiles “offer a noteworthy increase in anti-armor capability when compared to the majority of systems which are employed by the Syrian Arab Army and various rebel groups.”

U.S.-made military equipment, most prominently anti-tank missiles, have beendistributed to rebels through an operations center, called the Military Operations Command (MOC), that’s organized by countries arming the anti-Assad opposition, which allows them to vet the groups receiving support. The operations center reportedly includes U.S. intelligence officers, which suggests that the United States authorized the distribution of weapons to Tajammu al-Aaza.

“Tajammu al-Aaza is widely reputed to receive support from the MOC, and the fact that the group has documented its use of U.S.-made anti-tank missiles over a period of several months strongly suggests this is the case,” said Noah Bonsey, a senior analyst for the Middle East at the International Crisis Group. “They seem to have passed MOC vetting, which suggests the U.S. and other state backers view them as mainstream rather than extremist, and relatively reliable.”

One reason the United States may have allowed arms to flow to Tajammu al-Aaza is because rather than being an ally of the Islamic State, it has actually endorsed the U.S.-led air campaign against the jihadist movement. The group signed a statement that referred to the Islamic State as a “threat to the Syrian revolution” and that called on the U.S.-led international coalition to expand its air campaign to strike the Assad regime.

Earlier Wednesday, State Department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement that a Russian official had informed the United States that Russia would begin flying missions over Syria shortly before the strikes began. It’s not clear whether Moscow also told the United States that the first group it would bomb would be one that had received arms from Washington.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/30/...islamic-state/

I repeat what I said a few days ago! Russia is very anti democracy. Russia should not be trusted as an ally. When they destroy weapons storage that we provided, obviously they mean to weaken and destroy our allies. C',MON MAN!