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    Zogby: GOP Faces Extinction Risk

    Zogby: GOP Faces Extinction Risk

    Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:48 AM

    By: Jim Meyers

    Pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax that the Republican Party could be "teetering on the brink" of extinction as it fails to appeal to the fastest-growing demographic groups in America.

    He also said the GOP is not taking advantage of Democratic setbacks because it has not put forth alternative policies of its own.

    Zogby is CEO of Zogby International, a market research and opinion polling firm he founded in 1984.

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    He wrote an op-ed piece for the July edition of Campaign and Elections' Politics magazine, headlined "An Endangered Party?" The article asked if the GOP will go the way of the Federalist Party and eventually disappear as a viable national party.

    Newsmax.TV's Ashley Martella asked Zogby if the Republican Party could really become extinct.

    "Let's face it, it could be teetering on the brink," he declared.

    "There's been maybe a bit of a resurgence since I wrote what I wrote a few weeks back. However, there still is a lack of a program in a time of change. I'm not sure the Republicans are addressing change."

    Zogby also observed in his article that Republicans are "swimming against the tide of demography."

    He told Newsmax: "That's very true, and that's got to be a cause for concern. Look at the fastest-growing groups in the electorate. Those groups are Latinos, African-Americans — even though the numbers of African-Americans are not growing, the number who are voting is certainly growing — young people 18 to 29, and what we call the creative class, people who work in the world of ideas."

    These are college-educated professionals such as software engineers, graphic designers, attorneys, and workers in the healthcare technology field. They make up 20 percent of the workforce, Zogby said, and "make up critical parts of the population in states like North Carolina, Florida, New Mexico, and so on.

    "Republicans are not appealing to those groups, and yet those groups are on the upswing."

    Martella noted that the United States is still said to be a center-right nation, and polls have been showing that Americans increasingly believe President Barack Obama is a liberal. "Could that pave the way for a possible Republican resurgence?" he asked.

    "The premise of your question is true," Zogby responded.

    "About 40 percent of the electorate does in fact consider themselves to be conservatives; 20 percent or 22 percent [consider themselves] liberals. It's that big middle that's a concern.

    "And for conservatives, there have been some that have been turned off over the [George W.] Bush years, for a variety of reasons.

    "But the issue is, winning the middle. It's still a long way to go from 40 percent to 51 percent, and that's a difficulty.

    "Republicans certainly score points by being critical of Obama, by raising questions about spending. But for now, there is no pro-active program. There's just putting up a hand as a stop sign and saying halt."

    Martella asked if Obama's declining approval ratings could be good new news for Republicans.

    "It certainly could be for the GOP," he said.

    "I have the president at about 50 percent . . . Good news, but always think of the horizon — what's the next act for the Republicans? And is this a factor of just saying no to a change program, putting up the yellow light for caution, or is this a response to a Republican conservative agenda? Right now I don't think it's a response to a Republican conservative agenda."

    Martella pointed out that the cap-and-trade program to curb carbon emissions and the major healthcare overhaul both appear to be stalled, and asked if that too could be good for Republicans.

    "Potentially it could be, so long as there is an alternative," Zogby said.

    "But where is the alternative energy policy, the alternative environmental policy? Remember that centrist voters, including young Christian conservatives, are very concerned about the environment and global warming. Where's the pro-active agenda? Same thing with healthcare."

    Zogby said if these two programs had been presented in isolation, without other spending programs, they would have a much better chance of surviving. But after the stimulus package, TARP, corporate bailouts and the like, and with Americans not seeing progress just yet, "American voters are sacrificed out.

    "That kind of gives pause to the additional reforms. But I think the sentiment for reforms is still there."

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    Completely Inaccurate...

    This article is terrible. The Reason the GOP lost is that WE decided it was time to clean house and reject any more clowns like Bush or McCain....
    We went the way of the Democrats in 08 in order to send that message and they most certainly received it. Now the Democrats know their time is drawing near in the next major election. They are very afraid that they are our next target of removal.

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    Zogby is a Democrat, I have heard him admit to this on a show. He has obvious biases. Furthermore if the government continues to cave to "growing" populations that got into this country illegally anyway, we should just sit back and continue on the wrong socialist path??? The problem is by continuing to elect dems and continuing to give the illegals and the rest of the non-taxpayers the "lollipops" that they're promised, the middle class will eventually disappear.

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    Re: Completely Inaccurate...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tbow009
    This article is terrible. The Reason the GOP lost is that WE decided it was time to clean house and reject any more clowns like Bush or McCain....
    We went the way of the Democrats in 08 in order to send that message and they most certainly received it. Now the Democrats know their time is drawing near in the next major election. They are very afraid that they are our next target of removal.
    LIES, everyone is getting closer and leaning Right. Obama voters are realizing they voted with their hearts and not their heads.
    They have blame in this. They have the war now, they have terrorists receiving Miranda Rights, THEY HAVE PELOSI & REID too! LOL
    They have the stimulus that didn't work, they have a budget that's triple Bush's, they have ???? anything else?
    My brain turns to mush if I think back on all the stupid things they have done.

    Democrats are losing Independents and DEMOCRATS!
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    Get the Fascist Democrats out of Washington now.

    If it weren't for the Republicans we would have no political representation at all and the Ameircan people know it! The Dems aka Fascist are on the way out!
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    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 42% would vote for their district’s Republican congressional candidate while 38% would opt for the Democratic candidate.

    Support for Republican candidates rose two points over the past week, while support for Democratic candidates is up one point. Last week, support for Democrats fell to its lowest level in over two years.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... nal_ballot

    If the health insurance bill passes I may just vote a straight Repub ticket.
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    I agree with Zogby, but it is not for the reasons he states. The main problem with the Republican party is that it is run by elitists who abhor conservatism. When Reagan won in 1980 he was able to push them to the background, and the party thrived. After Reagan, we got the Bushes who moved the party right back into the hands of the elitists. The answer for the Republican Party is simple: Become THE Conservative party. If the elitists can not stomach that, let them become the Democrats they always try to emulate when they go for the so-called demographic vote. I am convinced that if the Republican Party put forth a straight forward conservative agenda with the data to support it, and stuck to it, they would get their fair share of the demographic and Independent votes as well as retain the traditional Republican Republican base. They would also force the Democrats to moderate their positions and become less liberal. Instead, Zogby sounds like the mainstream media and Democrat soothsayers who are trying to get the Republican party to moderate its position and adopt more liberal positions. Well, McCain did that and we saw how well that approach worked.
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    The Dems are not the same as the Dems of past generations.

    The main problem with the Republican party is that it is run by elitists who abhor conservatism.


    Bush and Mc Cain might have just as well been Democrats. 4th Horseman, you can't go by them.

    However, If you watch C-Span you will see Dems voting for off the wall and down right corrupt laws (Cap And Trade, Stimulus, Communist Health Care, Amnesty, etc) and the Reps fighting against them.

    The Dems used to be for the American people now they are for the people of Mexico and/or anti-American people. Go and see how they have been voting.
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    I realize that two wrongs don't make a right but Dems are NOT elitist!!!!? They're the scary ones...they act like they care, i.e., health care etc and the phony elitists would never in a NY minute subscribe to a government run healthcare. They engage in all that they supposedly abhor. Most of them are corrupt,being paid off by lobbyists,the Holywood rich liberals, the SIMON Mall owners, George Soros etc. etc. They really make me sick.I think Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism" says it all.

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    I'm an Independent who leans Right.
    If pressed to say I was one or the other, I would say I was Republican.

    As the Independent party grew,
    The GOP got smaller because we felt we didn't fit in on a couple of major issue.
    Like I'm for Pro-Choice and I love the Gays.
    I'm also Atheist. Hum, do they want me?
    NO!

    So I think, Republicans have the votes, just not the party number.
    The Independents don't have anyone to speak for them,
    so we listen to the side we lean to.
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