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I can't imagine why Atty. Orly Taitz took it upon herself to actually write to the Conman-in-Chief, even wasting a postage stamp on the letter, but she did. (I corrected typos in the letter.)
[quote="[url=http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=17728&cpage=1#comment-30517]Atty. Orly Taitz[/url]"][size=117]DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ
PRESIDENT
DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS FOUNDATION
29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100
RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA, CA 92688
ph 949-683-5411 fax 949-766-7603
01.13.2011
Mr. Barack Hussein Obama
1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Washington
District of Columbia
Dear Mr. Obama,
I listened to your speech in Arizona yesterday and took it to heart. I would like to work with you in restoring empathy, civility and honesty in this country.
So, let’s start!
Civility starts with respect. Since you are occupying the position of the Commander-in-Chief, how about you starting by giving respect to the members of the U.S. military?
You talk about “Honestyâ€
I just came across this video by RTR and its interview of Wayne Madsen, investigative journalist, about Chicago mayoral candidate Rahm Emanuel. Discussions include Patrick Fitzgerald, Barack Obama, and a plethora of other interesting figures and miscreants. The video is about 1 hour long, but has some very interesting background information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inn_-YAcVCQ
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HMMMMM it appears it is business as usual doesn't it!!!!
Congressman Brian Bilbray Fails to Answer Eligibility Question
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IS OBAMA ELIGIBLE TO SERVE?
January 18, 2011
Rep. Brian Bilbray was re-elected on Nov. 2, 2010 to represent California's 50th District
Dear Editor: The following letter was sent via email on Congressman Brian Bilbray’s website.
Congressman Bilbray,
A letter was sent from one of your constituents, Captain Neil Turner, on January 11, 2011 to Rep. Darrell Issa, Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, a committee of which you are a member. You will recall that Neil and I met with you recently in your Solana Beach office to discuss our concerns regarding the rapidly mounting evidence that our nation is in the midst of a Constitutional crisis arising from the fraudulent election of a constitutionally unqualified person to serve in the office of president of the United States.
As you know, I have contacted you repeatedly expressing my urgent concern regarding this matter, most recently regarding the outrageous incarceration of LTC Terrence Lakin in the Ft. Leavenworth military prison following a sham trial resulting from his simple request for verification the of valid constitutional authority of the putative commander-in-chief. I have yet to receive a reply.
I am now providing you with Captain Turner’s letter to Rep. Issa for your information, in the continuing hope that you will reflect further on the matters raised in this letter, as well as the supplementary information provided to your committee, and that you will finally act in accordance with the duties prescribed in your oath of office to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domesticâ€
WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances
Posted: January 18, 2011
8:05 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.
Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.
Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"
In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."
Get the free, in-depth special report on eligibility that could bring an end to Obama's presidency
Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.
Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.
"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.
For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.
"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.
So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.
WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.
WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.
Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.
Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.
WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.
Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.
Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.
WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833
many links and photos on this post
Regarding Abercrombie and Obama's birth certificate, I am concerned that he will eventually find something that was inadvertently 'misfiled' by some clerk.
The fraud and corruption just keeps coming.
That what they do all the time(manufacture evidence) but now it is getting old and people aren't buying it....you can fool some of the people all of the time and but not all of the people all the time...
That video was interesting..wonder how much is true....not sure who this Madsen is do you???
Kathyet
I personally say stop looking for the BC. If one was found now, we would never know if it was manufactured or not. They have had plenty of time to make a fake that could pass muster.
I say concentrate on the duel citizenship, two parent aspect of the argument. When rebuttles come that we do not follow the "law of nations" simply ask why in Article 1, Section 8, it says congress has the power to punish offenses against the law of nations. They do not know how to respond....
cayla99I wrote:
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I personally say stop looking for the BC. If one was found now, we would never know if it was manufactured or not. They have had plenty of time to make a fake that could pass muster.
Well that's fine we can stop looking. But, the question still remains why did our congress except his nomination with out proof of being a natural born citizen in the first place? It is a little late now to show manufactured proof, to much has been done, money spent and facts hidden for it to valid. If it was a real one, it would have been provided to begin with at the appropriate time. By producing one now out of the blue, it will clearly be labeled a fake. The time has past when it should have been provide to the Congress now it is showing that Congress was derelict in its duty.
No matter what is done the question will always remain. Too many are involved in the secret. They laugh in the face of the American People. But secrets with more than two people usually always come out. My worry is that our Country will go through hell before it is all rectified.
I hope and pray that with the Grace of God the traitors in this country (of which there are many) will eventually rue the day they committed this treasonous act on the Constitution and people of this Country.
Kathyet
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Kathy, I agree with you that the people who were involved in this fraud should face justice. However, I have grave doubts that this case as it stands will ever see it's day in court. If Obama makes it through his first term, he won't receive the blessings of the DNC to run for a second term. He will be quietly thrown under the bus because he has become too much of a liability. He couldn't pass muster and they KNOW it! I DO want to see people like Pelosi face justice though as she was, IMO, involved in a massive fraud and cover-up.Quote:
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Hey! back in the day, when we were all getting our drivers license didn't we have to show our BC's? I remember I had to send for mine to get my DL!
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WHY IS THE RIGHT HELPING OBAMA REWRITE THE DEFINITION OF NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?
By J.B. Williams
January 20, 2011
NewsWithViews.com
Definitions are easy, they are found in the dictionary. Yet, millions of Americans remain stuck in a quagmire of dissenting views and alleged expert opinions over the simple term natural born citizen, one of only a few strict constitutional requirements for the highest office in our land, President and Commander-in-Chief.
According to dictionaries dating as far back as Webster’s 1828 Edition, the term natural born citizen has a very simple and specific common meaning, and according to the framers of the US Constitution, a very important distinction.
Natural – Pertaining to nature; produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth, formation or motion impressed on bodies or beings by divine power. http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/natural
Born – To be born, is to be produced or brought into life. http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/born
Citizen – In the United States, a person, native or naturalized, who has the privilege of exercising the elective franchise, or the qualifications which enable him to vote for rulers, and to purchase and hold real estate. http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/citizen
Based upon the official definition of these words, we know immediately that the term natural born citizen is not based upon statute or any form of man-made law. It exists in nature, the result of natural law, by divine power, only able to be recognized or ignored by legislative process, but still inalienable via legal processes.
Many self-proclaimed experts insist that the US Constitution was written in some secret code, which can only be deciphered for the common folk, by legal scholars of the highest order. Yet on the basis of simple definitions, we know that if we are discussing any form of man-made law requiring the analysis of legal scholars, we are NOT discussing natural-born.
The term natural born citizen is of nature, not man-made law. The Constitution is written in plain and simple English, each word with a specific definition and meaning easily found in any English dictionary. Fortunately, not only legal scholars have access to dictionaries, making it possible for anyone who can read, to understand the Constitution, so long as they have a dictionary in hand.
After all, what good are unalienable rights that legal scholars are free to alienate via politically motivated interpretations?
History Confirms
Some self-appointed experts have gone so far as to intentionally twist history in an effort to reduce the meaning of natural born citizen to native born status, which is not the same thing and once again, you need only a dictionary to confirm.
Native - Pertaining to the place of birth; as native soil; native country; native graves. http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/native
As you can clearly see by proper definition, people focused only upon finding a real Hawaiian birth certificate for Barack Obama are focused on establishing only his native born status, his place of birth, not his natural born status. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833
A birth certificate is a product of man-made law. A document designed by governments to establish and record the bloodline, birth place, circumstance and vital statistics of an individual’s birth - A means of identifying and tracking that individual throughout life.
At best, it could only confirm that Obama’s stated birth father is his birth father of record, in which case, confirming what we already know, that Barack Obama Jr. is the son of a foreign national, and as such, is not a natural born citizen of the United States even if he is a native born citizen of Hawaii.
The historical foundation for the term natural born citizen found in Article II – Section I of our Constitution is the Law of Nations, as mentioned in Article 1 – Section 8 of our Constitution. An international treaty in existence during the forming of our nation, which established internationally recognized standards for what constitutes a sovereign nation and citizens’ rights. http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm
Emerich de Vattel published a book on the Law of Nations in 1758. In Chapter 19, § 212. Under Of the citizens and natives, Vattel states very clearly what constitutes a natural born citizen of any sovereign nation, in three simple statements…and our framers borrowed the term.
1) As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
2) The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.
3) I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
As easy as one, two, three… it’s all about the natural birthrights of the father. Nothing else…
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.
Barack Obama’s stated birth father was at no time in his life, a legal citizen of the United States. He was at all times throughout his life, a British subject and legal citizen of Kenya. As such, through natural birthright, Barack Obama succeeded to all of his father’s rights as a natural born citizen of Kenya, and at best a dual citizen of the United States with divided national loyalties through the bloodline of his mother, alleged to be a legal US citizen.
On this basis alone, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is indeed constitutionally ineligible for the office he currently holds and every member of congress and the Supreme Court is well aware. This explains why both Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat National Committee and the Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to certify Obama as “constitutionally eligible for officeâ€
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie's comments about his (thus far unsuccessful) Search for the Obot Holy Grail were reported in the Marxist-socialist media (MSM) and have caused a stir in the general populace, those who are not fixated 24/7 on the usurpation.
Cayla99, Obots may not know how to respond, but to use that tact is intellectually dishonest, I think. It certainly won't fly in court with an unsympathetic judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by cayla99
Yes, "the Law of Nations" is capitalized (though not underlined) in the text of the Constitution, which indicates a specific subject rather than a subject in general. Yes, Emerich de Vattel's The Law of Nations may well have been the book on the president's desk at the signing of the Constitution. Yes, de Vattel's The Law of Nations was the source of record for the definition of "natural born citizen."
But IMO (weight = zero), within the context of the Constitution, the common understanding of the phrase, "the Law of Nations," was and is "commonly accepted international law." An offense against a specific book, de Vattel's The Law of Nations, would have been of no consequence to the Framers. An offense against commonly accepted international law, and the fabric of constraints and social order provided by that law, would have been as earth-shattering to the Framers as the disregard and abrogation of parts of the Constitution is to law-abiding U.S. citizens today.
As we support and defend the Constitution, we need not be pedants and nit-pickers grasping at coincidental phraseology.
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Enough of sooth-saying, political correctness, and pulling punches. It is more than just fraud that DNC Chairwoman Rep. Nancy Pelosi and DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond misrepresented Mr. Obama as Constitutionally qualified. It is, on the face of it, giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the U.S. Constitution who is even now committing ongoing sedition in his overthrow of Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5.
Mr. Obama has not just violated the "natural born Citizen" clause. Unless he is brought to justice, for sedition against the Constitution at the very least, that part of the Constitution is toast, which will lead to more foreigners with foreign loyalties ruling the United States.
As for being an enemy of the U.S., Mr. Obama has done far more financial damage to American investors on Wall Street than the 9/11 hijackers did to the World Trade Center at Liberty & Church Streets. Mr. Obama's redistribution of American investors' wealth, force-multiplied by Obamacare, may eventually cause many more than 3000 needless and otherwise avoidable deaths of U.S. citizens.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorial ... eavor.html
This is the part of the Honolulu Star-Advertiser interview with Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie that mentions Mr. Obama's birth certificate.
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Minuteman, that's more like it;) Glad to hear that you think it's time to take the gloves off. I felt this way a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
2012
You can have a birth certificate without citizenship but you can't have a US Passport without being a US Citizen.
Obama needs to be forced to produce both before being certified as a candidate in the 2012 election. You put that on the table and he wont run.
State election codes need to be modified now and in place to insist on documentation that proves a candidate for the office of US President is a natural born citizen before the 2012 election. For that matter, any candidate should show proof of citizenship when required for that office and proof of identity to run for any office. Damn sure wouldn't want to elect an undocumented foreigner, terrorist or a spy.
I certainly would never settle for a notation in a birth record index because many people have access to that record, including the public in some cases. Many people can produce a "certificate of birth" but they can not produce the "long form".
Dixie
You do not need to be a natural born citizen to get a passport. My son has duel citizenship and possesses both a US and Irish passport.
The Hawaii Comedy Show
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AND WHO IS THE DIRECTOR?
by Jim Black
Dr. Chiyome Fukino left her directorship at the Hawaii Department of Health as soon as Neil Abercrombie was sworn in on December 6, 2010
(Jan. 21, 2011) — During the 2008 election, Hawaii’s Director of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, said: “I have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.â€
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There are many links and information sections on these links below...
http://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/proof.html
Proof of Citizenship
Any one of the following may be used as proof of citizenship
* Previous U.S. Passport (mutilated, altered, or damaged passports are not acceptable as evidence of U.S. citizenship.)
* Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state
NOTE: A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth
* Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
* Naturalization Certificate
* Certificate of Citizenship
A Delayed Birth Certificate filed more than one year after your birth may be acceptable proof of citizenship if it:
* Listed the documentation used to create it and
* Signed by the attending physician or midwife, or, lists an affidavit signed by the parents, or shows early public records.
If you do NOT have any of the above documents as proof of citizenship, you can use secondary evidence of citizenship.:
FOR MINORS UNDER THE AGE OF 14:
The citizenship evidence submitted for minors under the age of 14 must list both parents' names.
Expedite your passport today.
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Secondary Proof of Citizenship
Travelers who cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, must submit secondary evidence of U.S. citizenship. The list of secondary evidence below will help you decide which is most appropriate for your situation. Passport applications are handled on a case-by-case basis. The options below serve only as general guidance.
Early Public Records
If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you may submit a combination of early public records as evidence of your U.S. citizenship. Early public records must be submitted together with a birth record or Letter of No Record (see below). Early public records should show your name, date of birth, place of birth, and preferably be created within the first five years of your life. Examples of early public records are:
* Baptismal certificate
* Hospital birth certificate
* Census record
* Early school record
* Family bible record
* Doctor's record of post-natal care
Early Public Records are not acceptable when presented alone.
Delayed Birth Certificate
If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship because your U.S. Birth Certificate was not filed within the first year of your birth, you may submit a Delayed U.S. Birth Certificate. A Delayed U.S. Birth Certificate filed more than one year after your birth may be acceptable if:
red check It lists the documentation used to create it (preferably early public records) and
red check It is signed by the birth attendant or lists an affidavit signed by the parents
If your Delayed U.S. Birth Certificate does not include these items, it should be submitted together with Early Public Records (see above).
Letter of No Record
If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship because you do not have a previous U.S. passport or a certified U.S. birth certificate of any kind, you must present a state-issued Letter of No Record showing:
red check Your name
red check Your date of birth
red check The years for which a birth record was searched
red check Acknowledgement that no birth certificate was found on file
A Letter of No Record must be submitted together with Early Public Records (see above).
Form DS-10: Birth Affidavit
If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you may submit Form DS-10: Birth Affidavit as additional evidence of your U.S. citizenship. You may be requested to submit Early Public Records when submitting Form DS-10: Birth Affidavit. The birth affidavit:
red check Must be notarized
red check Must be submitted in person with Form DS-11
red check Must be submitted together with early public records
red check Must be completed by an affiant who has personal knowledge of birth in the U.S.
red check Must state briefly how the affiant's knowledge was acquired
red check Should be completed by an older blood relative
NOTE: If no older blood relative is available, the affiant may be the attending physician or any other person who has personal knowledge of the birth
Foreign Birth Documents + Parent(s) Citizenship Evidence
If you claim citizenship through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parent(s), but cannot submit a Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth, you must submit all of the following:
red check Your foreign birth certificate
red check Evidence of citizenship of your U.S. citizen parent
red check Parents' marriage certificate
red check An affidavit of your U.S. citizen parent showing all periods and places of residence or physical presence in the United States and abroad before your birth
Unacceptable Documents
The following will not be accepted as evidence of U.S. citizenship:
* Voter registration card
* Army discharge paper
* Social Security Card
http://www.us-passport-service-guide.co ... nship.html
Kathyet
A passport will show CITIZENSHIP, but not NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP. Natural born is the main question hereQuote:
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Rush Weighs in on Hawaii’s Obama Birth Certificate Search
January 22, 2011 at 7:04am
by Meredith Jessup
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Rush Weighs in on Hawaii’s Obama Birth Certificate Search
January 22, 2011 at 7:04am
by Meredith Jessup
Comments (266)
It looks like the fight over President Barack Obama’s birth certificate will never end. The debate over the supposed controversy heated up once more after Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie made it his mission to track down the infamous document to finally put rumors to rest. Instead, it seems the Democratic former member of Congress has only made things worse.
Earlier this week, Abercrombie announced that while the actual birth certificate document hasn’t been located, Obama’s birth was noted in a state registry. To many Obama supporters, this reaffirmed their belief that the entire debate was a non-issue. To “birthers,â€
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I hadn't listened to el Rushbo since he took a dive on Mr. Obama's Constitutional ineligibility. Good to hear that he is back in the ring swinging.
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Texas, I originally posted the following 8 months ago: http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-days ... -2954.html
To Steve Cooper, The Conservative Monster.com
Mr. Cooper, a conviction on any number of counts of voter fraud, a pardonable offense, is not going to make this go away.
This is about subverting the Constitution by knowingly violating the natural born Citizen clause (Art. II § 1 ¶ 5).
This is about rebellion and sedition against and overthrow of a duly elected, duly constituted government, through deception, subterfuge, and intrigue, by a Constitutionally disqualified impostor usurping the Office of President and Commander-in-Chief: more specifically, by a former collaborator with and supplier to the Talibαn, Is|amist terrorists with whom the United States is at war.
This is about giving aid and comfort to the enemy - Is|amist terrorism, al Qai'dα, and the Talibαn - in time of war, by actions that, when taken together, help or benefit the enemy, including:
- Reducing the military budget in wartime;
Pressuring Israel, a U.S. ally, to surrender militarily crucial land areas, thereby rendering the country indefensible;
Refusing to deploy defensive radar systems against Iran while it threatens to annihilate Israel, a U.S. ally;
Shrinking from taking whatever actions necessary, above and beyond commercial and financial sanctions, to keep an atomic bδmb out of the hands of Shiiτε madmen in Irαn and Is|amist terrorists in their surrogates, Hezbo||ah and Hamαs;
Bowing subserviently before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, a nation which sponsors Wahhαbi Mus|im terrorists, such as al Qai'dα;
Refusing commanding General Petraus' call for reinforcements for three months, reducing the number of those reinforcements by one-fourth, delaying the deployment of those reinforcements for several more months, and then, as a condition of sending reinforcements, setting a departure date (surrender date) to abandon overseas confrontation in the war against Is|amist terrorism, al Qai'dα, and the Talibαn;
Requiring removal of enemy combatants from military prisons at Guantanamo Bay, and granting them the judicial rights of U.S. citizens and civilian trials, sometimes in courtrooms located in the very areas they terrorized;
Publicly announcing the number of nuclear weapons in the U.S. arsenal and proclaiming a desire to unilaterally disarm;
Emboldening our enemies by publicly announcing a new policy to renounce the use of nuclear retaliation against non-nuclear states, even against governments which are known to be state sponsors or exporters of terrorism;
Stating (through DHS) that even though Arizona law enforcement apprehends illegal aliens who are violating U.S. immigration laws, ICE may possibly not deport all the illegal aliens Arizona captures (actually, that has been standard procedure in the past and until now);
Refusing to secure the borders when countless Is|amist terrorists are continuing to simply walk across and blend into the citizenry, even after illegal alien Is|amist terrorists killed nearly 3000 persons on 9/11.
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In the words of J. B. Williams, "Obama's entire domestic, foreign, and national defense agenda has proven to be wholly anti-American on every possible level." Similarly, Pastor James David Manning calls him "the anti-American President," though most of us would prefer to call him "the anti-American usurper" or "the anti-American impostor."
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort (U.S. Constitution, Art. III § 3 ¶ 1). Treason is more than just opposing or acting against the government. In the military, it is punishable by death by firing squad. For civilians, it is punishable either by death or by imprisonment up to life imprisonment. For a usurper posing as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, who now knows innumerable state secrets, the penalty is yet undetermined.
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Birthers Unite! Hawaii Governor’s Quest to End Birth Certificate ‘Controversy’ Hits a Dead End
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by Tommy Christopher | 12:05 pm, January 22nd, 2011
Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie’s one-man crusade to end the “controversyâ€
http://www.mediaite.com/online/birthers ... -dead-end/
The comments are running about 5 to 3 against Mr. Obama's eligibility for office. But the aggregate intelligence runs much higher in the posts against Mr. Obama's eligibility. We might expect as much, since his supporters either don't know whereof they speak, or they do know, but they fabricate. More often, Obamaton debating skills are limited to insults and one-liners, and lack any logic or evidence or persuasion whatsoever.
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The truth is whatever the BO administration and MSM SAYS it is. It has nothing to do with facts. The powers that be will NEVER allow this case to go before the SC because it implicates the "Powers That Be". The fox is guarding the hen house. Frankly, I don't give a $#%# anymore because WE don't matter. What matters is WHO makes the money, WHO holds the power and WHO gets sacrificed on the alter of the political gods. We are living the lie of all lies, a bogus/illegal potus and a corrupt/clueless government. IMO, nothing short of a civil revolt will push this issue forward and even THEN, doubtful. Nobody in our outlaw government wants to be the one to admit or bring to light the laws and ethics that were broken to put BO into office and that really doesn't even matter. Our Constitution means NOTHING to these scum. Lots of people made lots of money and gained lots of power by putting BO in office. Get it?
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Originally Posted by TexasBorn
Then those who are not complicit with our outlaw government need to admit the violations of law and ethics by that government and bring them to light. Rush talking about the usurpation is a start.
I had no response from "non-partisan" government corruption watchdogs in Europe. How can we petition other nations to derecognize this unlawful government, especially since there is no alternate or exiled government to recognize? Other nations see the usurpation as the de facto government, lawful or not. The outlaw government's compliance or non-compliance with the Constitution is just so much internal politics to other nations.
Has anyone here attempted to correspond with major news agencies outside the U.S. (besides Pravda.ru, which has reported on the usurpation most reliably)?
There are many talk shows in the U.S. which give a voice to dissidents from other countries. Is anyone besides Dr. Orly Taitz getting air time on radio programs in other countries, particularly on non-English programs?
So the correct action is removal of an ineligible office-holder by Congress, which may or may not require the same process (and two-thirds majority in the Senate) as impeachment for misconduct while in office.Quote:
Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, Roberts_the_man
If that process is blocked or not functioning properly, petition for redress must be available through the courts... in this case, through the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, or because of distance from WDC, through a local District Court acting for the D.C. District Court. However, Chief Justice Royce Lamberth of the USDC4DC appears to have been intimidated or coerced before the "Oust Obama Express" first left the station, or at least two years ago.
However, correct understanding of the rules only gets one so far... in this case, only far enough to see the rules trodden underfoot.
Therefore, inasmuch aswe pray.
- the courts are handcuffed,
a people's grand jury is not recognized,
the Joint Chiefs of Staff choose to allow Dr. Terry Lakin to be wrongfully imprisoned rather than to oust the fraudulent usurper, and
the Congress can't even make up its mind to allow the words, "Obama" and "ineligible," to be spoken in the same paragraph within its chambers,
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Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, misterblue
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Originally Posted by At forums.hannity.com, vegastracon
We don't need to prove it, even if that could be done to the satisfaction of diehard Obots.
We only need to establish a reasonable suspicion of a crime, so as to present an argument for probable cause to a federal judge, who should then authorize warrants for discovery of evidence in Honolulu and official requests for cooperation addressed to the Royal Archives in London, Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, the Central Bureau of Statistics in Nairobi, and the Central Bureau of Statistics in Jakarta. (Even a State of Hawaii judge or a City of Honolulu magistrate could authorize just the warrants for discovery of evidence in Honolulu, but the important original documents will be elsewhere.)
Are governing agencies, e.g. judges,Otherwise, is demonic oppression causing obstruction and miscarriage of justice?
- afraid of retaliation or refusing to get involved with the dangers of executing justice;
uninformed about the fine points of the Constitution and apathetic about learning accurate information and standing on it; or
less concerned about justice than about maintaining their pay and perks and the well-being of their families?
How about any and/or all of the above? The root problem is, of course, fear . . . the product of terrorism. The primary pushers of fear, anxiety, dread, paranoia (it's not paranoia if they are trying to get you), and intimidation unto submission and servitude, are:
- 1. fundamentalist Is|am, which is aggressive, antagonistic, forceful, threatening, and controlling/dominating, even when actual physical violence is not (yet) present;
2. a totalitarian state, under Marxist or Maoist communism, for example, which is systematically and mathematically doomed to fail and thus requires that the non-compliant be attacked, if not physically, then bureaucratically; and
3. the IRS, along with, when the governing authority is evil, other regulatory or law enforcement agencies.
WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
Posted: January 24, 2011
8:48 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
Adams was employed at the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division from May 2008 through September 2008.
His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 50 to 60 employees responsible for verifying the identity of voters at the Absentee Ballot Office. It was in this capacity that Adams became aware of the search for Obama's birth-certificate records.
"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit
(viewable in full as part 1 http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams1.pdf and part 2 http://www.wnd.com/files/110123adams2.pdf ),
"I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."
As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.
"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."
In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health.
"My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."
Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."
In 2009, WND documented that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, before the story changed to Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.
After WND's report on the two conflicting hospitals, online news sites including the United Press International and Snopes.com scrubbed their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens Medical Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center without explaining the discrepancy or the correction.
In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie was involved in an Obama birth controversy when he read a letter at a Kapi'olani Medical Center centennial dinner in Honolulu that supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming Kapi'olani as his birth hospital.
As WND reported, the letter read by Abercrombie and initially displayed on the Kapi'olani website turned out to be a computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML code, the building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.
The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.
Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a cover-up designed to tell the American public through the Obama-supporting mainstream media that Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama could be found on record in the Hawaii Department of Health.
In the affidavit Adams swears, "During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth."
Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking about Obama's birth records.
"During the course of my employment," Adams states in the affidavit, "I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama's Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama."
"I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate," Adams told WND. "And so I don't understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes."
Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth is authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.
"My basic assumption is that he wasn't born there," Adams said. "Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That's normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s."
WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person request at the Hawaii Department of Health for a registration of a Hawaii birth, even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.
In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there is a registration of Obama's birth in the state archives.
But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically could prove only that the grandparents had registered Obama's birth, even if Obama was not born in Hawaii.
Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper announcements could have been triggered by the grandparents appearing in-person to register baby Obama as a Hawaiian birth, even if the baby was born elsewhere.
WND has documented that the address reported in the birth announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers at the time, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address where the grandparents lived.
WND has also reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu at an 11th Avenue address, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Ann Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.
Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.
It's possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering baby Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form record exists.
WND has confirmed with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working in their elections offices during the last presidential election.
"We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," Takahashi told WND.
Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential election campaign.
He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars.
"I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the Constitution," he said. "I want to get American troops out from foreign countries, and I want to see the federal budget balanced."
He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in 2012 to run against President Obama, but he has not yet made up his mind.
"It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney turn out to be on economics," he said. "But from what I know right now, they would probably be better than Obama."
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=254401
In the Obama rabbit hole, things do seem to get progressively curiouser and curiouser.
January 24, 2011
Friend says Abercrombie told him, 'There is no birth certificate!'
Jack Cashill
92 Comments
During an interview on the KQRS morning radio show on January 20, Mike Evans, a long-time friend of Hawaii governor Neil Abercrombie, shared a conversation he had with the governor the day prior. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb--1AxmgZ8 The reader is advised to judge for himself the credibility of Evans' account, but he sounds convincing.
Evans, Honolulu born and now a Hollywood-based celebrity journalist, claimed that Abercrombie had promised him that he when he became governor, he planned to find absolute proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.
When Evans spoke to Abercrombie on January 19, Abercrombie reportedly told him that he searched the relevant Hawaii hospitals using his powers as governor, and concluded, according to Evans, "There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii, absolutely no proof at all that Obama was born in Hawaii." After Abercrombie made such a fuss about finding the birth certificate, Evans concluded of his friend that he has "got some egg in the face."
Curiously too, when Evans asked Abercrombie when he first encountered the young Barack Obama, Abercrombie reportedly said, "I remember him playing in a T-Ball league," when he was roughly five or six years old.
The reader may recall that Abercrombie had told the Los Angeles Times just before Christmas, "Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.'"
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events." Of course, Obama Sr. had left for Harvard four years before young Barack was T-Ball eligible.
In the Obama rabbit hole, things do seem to get progressively curiouser and curiouser.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... o_him.html
So when will they finally investigate this. I could understand the denial and ignoring it at first glance back when questions first arose as probable normal political propaganda because one side lost. But with how long its gone on with as as deep is the hole of lies have shown would think someone woulda gotten it moved up by now.
If however it does reach the SC and found what do they do exactly. Would mean every bill he's signed is null and void. Means every pick he had for an office like his 2 SC picks would be null and void and so on.
Yep Reform, you are correct. And that's why this case will never see the light of day in the SC unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012
The Sarah Palin Insider | Sarah Palin and The Barack Obama Birther Tea Party
Published by AndAnotherThing on January 24, 2011 in US Politics
Tags: Barack Obama, Joseph Farah, Sarah Palin, United States
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Sarah Palin has remained quiet about her theory about the birth of President Barack Obama and its implications for the future of America. That was until now! This, the latest secretly recorded tape from the Sarah Palin Insider, is dynamite! Bonus Content also included. Watch two of Sarah Palin’s leading activists perform Sarah Palin’s Hymn with lyrics which include "hunt some skunk".
Does Sarah Palin believe that Barack Husein Obama is the legitimate President of the United States of America or is she with the Birthers and other fringe members of the Tea Party such as Joseph Farah? The latest tape from the Sarah Palin Insider, who sometimes goes by the name of Xanadu, reveals that Mrs. Sarah Palin is unusually well informed on this issue. In the first part of the transcript we listen to Sarah Palin’s adviser speak on the matter. When he is quieted we hear Sarah Palin’s view and below that we see the Sarah Palin Hymn (known as “hunt Some Skunk) performed by two leadin Sarah Palin activists.
Sarah Palin: Well Mr. Smith I would like you to give me your findings. Was Barack Hussein Obama even born in this country? His name certainly does not sound American.
Mr Smith: The Speaker of the House of Representatives, Congressman John Boehner recently announced to the world on NBC News that he believes that President Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii. In addition to this there exists the President’s Birth Certificate which has been shown to be real and an announcement placed in the Honolulu Register announcing Barack Obama’s birth on 4th. August 1961. This is irrefutable proof that President Barack Hussein Obama is the legitimate 44th President of the United States of America.
Sarah Palin: But Mr Smith, have you spoken to God?
Mr Smith: No, of course not, have you?
Sarah Palin: No but my friend Joseph Farah has and he knows the truth about Obama and Gays too.
Mr Smith: I have to advise you that Joseph Farah is very much seen as a nutter throughout the Union.
Sarah Palin: Firstly Mr Smith I don’t have to agree with every darn thing you suggest. I am, for an example to you, going to use the Sarah Palin Hymn and I will be going down south to hunt some skunk. Secondly, Mr Smith if you do not pay respect to Joseph Farah then you Mr Smith are fired!
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Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again
Posted: January 25, 2011
7:42 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
It could be a game-changer.
A plan in Arizona to require presidential candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is approaching critical mass, even though it has just been introduced.
The proposal from state Rep. Judy Burges, who carried a similar plan that fell short last year only because of political maneuvering, was introduced yesterday with 16 members of the state Senate as co-sponsors.
It needs only 16 votes in the Senate to pass.
In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn't wish to be listed as co-sponsors.
The proposal, which also is being taken up in a number of other states, is highly specific and directly addresses the questions that have been raised by Barack Obama's occupancy of the White House. It says:
Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate's citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate's age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.
The critical phrases are "natural born citizen" and the requirements of "article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States," which imposes on the president a requirement not demanded of other state and federal officeholders.
At the time the Constitution was written, many analysts agree, a "natural born citizen" was considered to be a citizen born of two citizen parents. If that indeed is correct, Obama never would have been qualified to be president, as he himself has confirmed his father was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, making Obama a dual citizen with Kenyan and American parentage at his birth.
Other definitions have called for a "natural born citizen" to be born of citizen parents inside the nation.
There have been dozens of lawsuits and challenges over the fact that Obama's "natural born citizen" status never has been documented. The "Certification of Live Birth" his campaign posted online is a document that Hawaii has made available to those not born in the state.
The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
The challenges to Obama's eligibility allege he does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims, or that he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen, through his father, of the U.S. and the United Kingdom's Kenyan terroritory when he was born and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.
There are several cases still pending before the courts over Obama's eligibility. Those cases, however, almost all have been facing hurdles created by the courts' interpretation of "standing," meaning someone who is being or could be harmed by the situation. The courts have decided almost unanimously that an individual taxpayer faces no damages different from other taxpayers, therefore doesn't have standing. Judges even have ruled that other presidential candidates are in that position.
The result is that none of the court cases to date has reached the level of discovery, through which Obama's birth documentation could be brought into court.
Obama even continued to withhold the information during a court-martial of a military officer, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who challenged his deployment orders on the grounds Obama may not be a legitimate president. Lakin was convicted and sent to prison.
Burges told WND she's asked the proposal to be assigned to the Government Committee.
"I think every American should consider it of prime importance to ensure that all candidates for the highest elected position in our nation meet all constitutional requirements," she told WND. "We do not accept the federal government's unconstitutional treatment of states as one of their extended branches."
The Arizona bill also requires attachments, "which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury," including "an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance."
It also requires testimony that the candidate "has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America."
"If both the candidate and the national political party committee for that candidate fail to submit and swear to the documents prescribed in this section, the secretary of state shall not place that presidential candidate's name on the ballot in this state," the state plan explains.
The governor's office is occupied by Republican Jan Brewer, who has had no difficulty in bringing direct challenges to Washington, such as a year ago when lawmakers adopted provisions that allowed state law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration law. The state's move prompted an immediate court challenge by Washington.
WND also has reported that similar efforts are under way in Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Texas:
Montana
Under Montana's plan by Rep. Bob Wagner, candidates would have to document their eligibility and also provide for protection for state taxpayers to prevent them from being billed for "unnecessary expense and litigation" involving the failure of 'federal election officials' to do their duty.
"There should be no question after the fact as to the qualifications [of a president]," Wagner told WND. "The state of Montana needs to have [legal] grounds to sue for damages for the cost of litigation."
Wagner's legislation cites the Constitution's requirement that the president hold "natural born citizenship" and the fact that the "military sons and daughters of the people of Montana and all civil servants to the people of Montana are required by oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States and Montana against enemies foreign and domestic."
But there are estimates of up to $2 million being spent on Obama's defense against eligibility lawsuits. There have been dozens of them and some have been running for more than two years. So Wagner goes a step beyond.
"Whereas, it would seem only right and just to positively certify eligibility for presidential and congressional office at the federal level; and whereas, it is apparent that the federal authority is negligent in the matter; therefore, the responsibility falls upon the state; and whereas, this act would safeguard the people of Montana from unnecessary expense and litigation and the possibility that federal election officials fail in their duty and would ensure that the State of Montana remains true to the Constitution," says his proposed legislation.
Pennsylvania
In Pennsylvania, there was excitement over the GOP majority of both houses of the state legislature as well as the governor's office.
Assemblyman Daryl Metcalfe told WND he is working on a proposal that would demand documentation of constitutional eligibility.
He described it as a "problem" that there has been no established procedure for making sure that presidential candidates meet the Constitution's requirements for age, residency and being a "natural born citizen."
"We hope we would be able to pass this legislation and put it into law before the next session," he said.
He said any one of the states imposing such a requirement would be effective in solving his concerns.
"I think the public relations nightmare that would ensue if any candidate would thumb their noses at a single state would torpedo their campaign," he told WND.
Georgia
Rep. Mark Hatfield has confirmed to WND that he will have a similar proposal pending.
He had introduced the legislation at the end of last year's session to put fellow lawmakers on alert that the issue was coming.
"I do plan to reintroduce the bill," he told WND. "We'll move forward with trying to get it before a committee."
In Georgia, Republicans hold majorities in both houses of the legislature as well as "every constitutional statewide office," he noted.
"I would be optimistic that we can [adopt the legislation]," he said.
Hatfield said if only one or two states adopt such requirements, it readily will be apparent whether a candidate has issues with eligibility documentation or not. And while he noted a president could win a race without support from a specific state, a failure to qualify on the ballot "would give voters in other states pause, about whether or not a candidate is in fact qualified," he said.
"My goal is to make sure any person that aspires to be president meets the constitutional requirements," he said. "This is a first step in that direction."
Texas
WND reported on a bill prefiled for the Texas Legislature by Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, that would require such documentation.
Berman's legislation, House Bill 295, is brief and simple:
It would add to the state election code the provision: "The secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen."
It includes an effective date of Sept. 1, 2011, in time for 2012 presidential campaigning.
Berman told WND he's seen neither evidence nor indication that Obama qualifies under the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born citizen."
"If the federal government is not going to vet these people, like they vetted John McCain, we'll do it in our state," he said.
He noted the Senate's investigation into McCain because of the Republican senator's birth in Panama to military parents.
Berman also said there will be pressure on any lawmaker who opposes the bill, since voters would wonder why they wouldn't want such basic data about a president revealed. And he said even if one state adopts the requirement, there will be national implications, because other states would be alerted to a possible problem.
"If Obama is going to run for re-election in 2012, he'll have to show our secretary of state his birth certificate and prove he's a natural-born citizen," he said. "This is going to be significant."
Berman said he's convinced there are problems with Obama's eligibility, or else his handlers would not be so persistent in keeping the information concealed.
A year ago, polls indicated that roughly half of American voters were aware of a dispute over Obama's eligibility. Recent polls, however, by organizations including CNN, show that roughly six in 10 American voters hold serious doubts that Obama is eligible under the Constitution's demands.
Other state plans also might be in the works but unannounced yet. Officials with the Denver-based National Conference of State Legislatures said they were not tracking bills in development.
But Orly Taitz, the California lawyer who has worked on a number of the highest-profile legal challenges to Obama, said efforts are under way now in Missouri and Oklahoma, too.
She said the bill is expected to be successful in Missouri where there is a GOP majority in the legislature and a GOP governor's office, and in Oklahoma, where last year a similar plan failed by only one vote in the state Senate.
She encouraged residents of Tennessee, New Hampshire, South Dakota, California, Maine, New Mexico, South Carolina, Virginia, New Jersey and Iowa to contact their lawmakers, as there has been some interest expressed.
"We need eligibility bills filed in each and every state of the union … as it shows the regime that we are still the nation of law and the Constitution, that the Constitution matters and state representatives and senators are ready to fight for the rule of law. During the last election there were some 700 more Republican state assemblyman elected all over the country, as the nation is not willing to tolerate this assault on our rights and our Constitution any further," she said.
Last year, several other states listened to proposals that could have had an impact on eligibility documentation. In New Hampshire, officials wanted to require candidates to meet the "qualifications contained in the U.S. Constitution." In Oklahoma, lawmakers heard a plan to let voters decide the issue, and in South Carolina, the plan was to prevent candidates from being on the ballot unless "that person shows conclusive evidence that he is a legal citizen of the United States."
Further, several other states discussed requirements for candidates, but they did not specifically address the Article 2, Section 1 constitutional compliance, so it's unclear whether they would have addressed Obama's situation.
There also was, during the last Congress, Rep. Bill Posey's bill at the federal level.
Posey's H.R. 1503 stated:
"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
The bill also provided:
"Congress finds that under … the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."
It had more than a dozen sponsors, and while it died at the end of the last Congress, there are hopes the GOP majority in the House this year will move such a plan forward.
There also is a petition, already signed by tens of thousands, to state lawmakers asking them to make sure the next president of the United States qualifies under the Constitution's eligibility requirements.
"What we need are hundreds of thousands of Americans endorsing this strategy on the petition – encouraging more action by state officials before the 2012 election. Imagine if just one or two states adopt such measures before 2012. Obama will be forced to comply with those state regulations or forgo any effort to get on the ballot for re-election. Can Obama run and win without getting on all 50 state ballots? I don't think so," said Joseph Farah, CEO of WND, who is behind the idea of the petition.
An earlier petition had been directed at all controlling legal authorities at the federal level to address the concerns expressed by Americans, and it attracted more than half a million names.
For 18 months, Farah has been one of the few national figures who has steadfastly pushed the issue of eligibility, despite ridicule, name-calling and ostracism at the hands of most of his colleagues. To date, in addition to the earlier petition, he has:
erected billboards around the country demanding, "Where's the birth certificate?":
produced a 40-page special report on the subject;
produced a 60-minute documentary video primer on the issue;
manufactured yard and rally signs to bring attention to the topic;
pledged to donate at least $15,000 to any hospital in Hawaii or anywhere else that provides proof Obama was born there and given you an opportunity to raise the amount;
created a line of T-shirts you can wear to appearances by the president to raise visibility of the issue;
created a fund to which you can donate to further the kind of investigative reporting into this matter only this company has performed over the last two years;
launched a line of postcards you can use to keep the issue alive;
distributed thousands of bumper stickers asking, "Where's the birth certificate?"
Farah says all those campaigns are continuing.
"Obama may be able to continue showing contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law for the next two years, as he has demonstrated his willingness to do in his first year in office," he wrote in a column. "However, a day of reckoning is coming. Even if only one significant state, with a sizable Electoral College count, decides a candidate for election or re-election has failed to prove his or her eligibility, that makes it nearly impossible for the candidate to win. It doesn't take all 50 states complying with the law to be effective."
If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Joseph Farah about this campaign, e-mail WND.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=255489
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Game changer in Arizona? One could only hope. Has the damage already been done? Really doesn't matter to the Dems...they are going to give Obama the pink slip because he has become an extreme liability and is dragging the party down with him.
Another blast from the past with Gov. Abercrombie, screwing up his story even more.
January 25, 2011
More Prevaricating from Abercrombie
Jack Cashill
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On January 21, 2009, the day after Obama was inaugurated, talk radio host Mike Evans interviewed then Congressman Neil Abercrombie on his relationships with the Barack Obamas, senior and junior.
Video: Up Close & Personal, Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsLleXvt ... r_embedded
During this little-seen, congenial, 7-minute interview on C-SPAN, a relaxed Abercrombie reminisced about his own arrival in Hawaii in 1959 and his acquaintance with Barack Obama Sr., whom he described in glowing terms.
When the subject turned to President Obama, Evans asked, "Do you remember him growing up."
"I remember him as a little boy with his grandfather," Abercrombie answered, "because his mother and father separated." Abercrombie elaborated that "little Barry" went everywhere with his grandfather, Stanley Dunham, and one could not help but to run into them.
The reader may recall that just before Christmas Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times, "Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"
A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events." In fact, however, Abercrombie never saw young Barry with his parents at all.
In his effort to embarrass those who would like to see Obama's birth certificate, it seems that Abercrombie has been serially fabricating a family that never existed and embellishing his own relation to it.
Curious, too, is that in his 2009 interview with Evans, one in which he describes Obama Sr. in great detail, Abercrombie has not a word to say about Ann Dunham or the Obamas as a couple.
No, Virginia, Abercrombie is not screwing with the "birthers." He is simply screwing up.
See also: Friend says Abercrombie told him, 'There is no birth certificate!' http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... o_him.html
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