Selective Service registration
Re: Selective Service registration
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Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
[url=http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html]The irregularities are beyond imagination on the Selective Service registration form for
Obama, Barack Hussein. Read Debbie Schlussel's analysis for the full explanation.
I don't know, he signed this 28 years ago, my signature has degraded over time also. I am more concerned about his place of birth and if he re-naturalized.
Re: Selective Service registration
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Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
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I'm no writing expert, but it looks to me that the person who signed the selective service registration form as "Barack H. Obama" was a different person from the one who signs his name as "Barack Obama" today.
1. The federal government authorities should seriously investigate what looks like attempted fraud concerning this Obama selective service form and its obvious "Obama" fake signature.
2. My point is this: It looks like Obama is LYING when he says that he filled out his selective service form back in 1980 like he was supposed to.
3. If the average man on the street was caught lying on his selective service form, I bet that he would be facing some harsh punishment, like jail time.
4. But how many want to bet that Obama does not face any criminal charges over this obvious fake signature on this fake selective service registration from?
5. I bet the government turns away from this Obama selective service registration form mess, and it lets Obama go on merrily with his life as if nothing happened.
Indonesian Constitution, concerning adopting foreigners
[Indonesian Constitution, concerning adopting foreigners]
zhou tay wrote in Pajamas Media:
Article 7
(1) A foreign woman who is married to an Indonesian citizen shall be granted Indonesian nationality within a year's time, if at that time she has announced that she is willing to do so, except if she is granted Indonesian citizenship and still has another citizenship, it must not be allowed to be made public.
(2) With the exception in paragraph 1 above, a foreign woman that is married to an Indonesian will be granted Indonesian [citizenship] a year after her marriage, if within a year her husband does not declare to withdraw his Indonesian nationality. Only that declaration in which the husband shall not become as having no nationality at all can be declared and make him lose his nationality.
(3) If one of the declarations mentioned in paragraph 1 or 2 has already been declared, then no others may be declared.
(4) This announcement/declaration must be pronounced before the court or other Indonesian Representative in the area where that person is living.
Article 2
(1) A foreign child below the age of 5 who has been adopted by an Indonesian shall be granted Indonesian citizenship, if the court says this is legal in the juridiction in which the adopted parents live.
(2) The legal motion by the court must be requested by the adopted parents within a year after the adoption process, or within a year after this bill took effect.
If Obama was truly adopted by Lolo Soetoro, well, the marriage system between an Indonesian man and a foreign woman will make the children of her previous marriage become Indonesian, but of course the father must make this so. And if you want to put your child in an Indonesian public school, if you're a foreigner, you just can't, because the Indonesian constitution forbids that.
Article 31
(1) Tiap-tiap warga negara berhak mendapat pengajaran.
(2) Pemerintah mengusahakan dan menyelenggarakan satu sistem pengajaran nasional, yang diatur dengan undang-undang.
Translated, that becomes:
(1) Every Indonesian citizen must be educated.
(2) The Government shall establish and run one national education system, that is ruled by law.
Now here's the key: only Indonesian citizens have the right to have an education in Indonesia. For foreigners, education must be in the International school until the university level. They must have permission from the Indonesian government. After I learned the meaning of "warga negara" . . .
Supreme Court has not yet demanded Obama's BC
"SUPREME COURT'S SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE"
- THIS HEADLINE IS FALSE AND MISLEADING.
[... a] translation of what SCOTUS tells us on their webpage as far as Berg's case:
"Berg filed a lawsuit in the Third Circuit, which means in a federal court somewhere in PA or NJ (seeking to require Obama to disclose the birth certificate). The Third Circuit denied that suit (on the basis that Berg doesn't have standing). Berg applied to SCOTUS for a writ of cert -- this just asks SCOTUS to take a look at the merits of the case that got dismissed in the lower court. SCOTUS gives Obama until Dec. 3 [Dec. 1] to respond to the application for a writ of cert. While SCOTUS is deciding whether to grant the writ and to then take a look at the merits (i.e., whether to decide if Obama has to produce the birth certificate), Berg files an application for an injunction -- I assume an injunction to delay the election until Obama shows the birth certificate. That application is denied on Nov. 3 and the election continues. SCOTUS has not yet decided whether to grant the writ or not. By Dec. 3 [Dec. 1], Obama may or may not respond to the application for a writ of cert."
In the Berg case, it is only after SCOTUS grants the writ of cert that SCOTUS will take up the issue of whether Obama has to produce the birth certificate. That's the thing Berg is asking for, and right now that's not even being considered by SCOTUS, they're still on the issue of whether to take the case or not.
RELEASE THE VAULT!
Slimguy notes, "Note carefully the writ only has to be responded to by that date [Dec. 1] which means either produce the document or file a motion of some type as to standing or such for dismissal or even a delay motion. I am leaning toward the idea that the court might deny standing and refer the issue to the Electoral College as the one who does have standing in this issue."
Andy Martin wrote, "McCain electors should 'jam up' the electoral college with parliamentary procedures and demands for production of Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 birth certificate (certificate of live birth)."
(Also see "An Open Letter to Barack Obama: Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?"
by Robert L. Schulz of We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc.)
Sample letter to electors: abbreviate or revise at will
This letter will fit on three pages with 1" margins, using 12 pt. Times Roman font. (Make the bottom margin 0.83" if you want to include the closing Bible verse.) Add or subtract from the text as you please, but DO MAIL IT TO YOUR ELECTORS!
- [your address]
[your city, state and zipcode]
[today's date]
[elector's name]
[elector's address]
[elector's city, state and zipcode]
Dear [Mr. or Mrs. Elector,]
Researchers are convinced all is not as advertised with Barack Obama II's citizenship. Most people who have read the extensive documentation of this are convinced that Sen. Obama is hiding something very damaging. He has sealed not only his long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, but his medical records, his admission and financial aid records from Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, his University of Chicago faculty records - indeed, any record that might have required his original long form "vault" birth certificate.
In a lawsuit in the Hawaii Supreme Court, Mr. Andy Martin is seeking a court order to open Barack Obama II's sealed birth records. Mr. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information Access request for the records at either of two hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Lawsuits in Washington, Georgia, California, Florida, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, and Ohio have petitioned or are petitioning state courts to compel the states' Secretaries of State, as the chief state elections officers, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records of Mr. Obama. The Hawaii long form Certificate of Live Birth or the Kenyan birth certificate will determine authoritatively whether he was born in Hawaii or in Kenya.
Mr. Philip Berg's months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the statement that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for the office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Mr. Obama's lack of Constitutional qualification by failing to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Mr. Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer Mr. Berg's petition. The Federal court dismissed the case for "lack of standing," which terminology also includes "lack of jurisdiction."
Re: Sample letter to electors: abbreviate or revise at will
quote from MinutemanCDC_SC....didn't want to mess up his FINE work.. :wink:
This letter will fit on three pages with 1" margins, using 12 pt. Times Roman font. (Make the bottom margin 0.83" if you want to include the closing Bible verse.) Add or subtract from the text as you please, but DO MAIL IT TO YOUR ELECTORS!
[size=117] - [your address]
[your city, state and zipcode]
[today's date]
[elector's name]
[elector's address]
[elector's city, state and zipcode]
Dear [Mr. or Mrs. Elector,]
Researchers are convinced all is not as advertised with Barack Obama II's citizenship. Most people who have read the extensive documentation of this are convinced that Sen. Obama is hiding something very damaging. He has sealed not only his long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, but his medical records, his admission and financial aid records from Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School, his University of Chicago faculty records - indeed, any record that might have required his original long form "vault" birth certificate.
In a lawsuit in the Hawaii Supreme Court, Mr. Andy Martin is seeking a court order to open Barack Obama II's sealed birth records. Mr. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information Access request for the records at either of two hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Lawsuits in Washington, Georgia, California, Florida, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, and Ohio have petitioned or are petitioning state courts to compel the states' Secretaries of State, as the chief state elections officers, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records of Mr. Obama. The Hawaii long form Certificate of Live Birth or the Kenyan birth certificate will determine authoritatively whether he was born in Hawaii or in Kenya.
Mr. Philip Berg's months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the statement that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for the office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Mr. Obama's lack of Constitutional qualification by failing to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Mr. Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer Mr. Berg's petition. After the Federal court dismissed the case for “lack of standing,â€
Scotus Docket updated to Justice Clarence Thomas
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
SCOTUS DOCKET UPDATED BY RENEWED STAY APPLICATION TO JUSTICE THOMAS
Has anyone heard how Andy Martin made out today in the Hawaiian Supreme Court?
Pending at SCOTUS: Donofrio v. Wells
Leo Donofrio, a NJ lawyer (retired from law practice, and acting as plaintiff pro se) filed suit against Secretary of State Wells on a writ of mandamus for her failure to carry out state statutory obligations to assure eligibility of three presidential candidates on the ballot.
The candidates were Obama, McCain and Calero, a Socialist Party candidate who was born in Nicaragua to Nicaraguan citizens who had been ousted from the ballots of at least 4 other states.
After going quietly through the NJ Appellate Division and obtaining a five-page opinion from the NJ Supreme Court, the matter was taken up on appeal and is now docketed at the U.S. Supreme Court. An initial rejection by Justice Souter, in combination with a technical court rule, has given Donofrio the right to request an alternate justice of his choice (he chose Clarence Thomas) and submit notification to all of the Justices.
He is arguing on really simple grounds, using known facts, as to Obama's ineligibility. A 1948 law in the U.K. conferred British citizenship, through the father, upon any child born to a Kenyan since Kenya was then a British colony. The citizenship was conferred whether the child was born in the U.K. or the British colony (Kenya) or overseas.
The lawsuit attacks eligibility on the basis of dual citizenship -- to which Obama admits right on his own website -- being Constitutionally impermissible. Anyone who Googles the plaintiff's name and Obama should be able to track down more information on this.
From a newly-created website set up by Donofrio at blogtext which will get moved to a more bandwidth-generous website soon, but which has been posting updates since he went public:
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The renewed application hit the US Supreme Court on-line docket search engine sometime between noon and 2:15 PM today, Nov. 18, 2008. Below is a copy of the docket:
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No. 08A407
Title: Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant
v.
Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State
Docketed:
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of New Jersey
Case Nos.: (AM-0153-08T2 at the New Jersey Appellate Division without a docket number)
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nov 3 2008 Application (08A407) for stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter.
Nov 6 2008 Application (08A407) denied by Justice Souter.
Nov 14 2008 Application (08A407) refiled and submitted to Justice Thomas.
Re: Pending at SCOTUS: Donofrio v. Wells
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Originally Posted by FreedomFirst
[Leo Donofrio's] lawsuit attacks eligibility on the basis of dual citizenship -- to which Obama admits right on his own website -- being Constitutionally impermissible [to establish natural born Citizenship].
I don't see any grounds for a complaint here. Even in this case, where Barack Obama II did hold dual citizenship with the U.S. and (G.B. =>) Kenya until the age of majority, the U.S. has no problem with - makes no distinction about - dual citizenship for those born on U.S. soil to at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen. If he were born in Hawaii to at least one U.S. citizen parent, he would be [a citizen, and probably] a natural born citizen [if there were no named father].
BUT, if he were born in Kenya or Canada or other soil not under U.S. jurisdiction, and if one parent was not a U.S. citizen, he would be a U.S. citizen if and only if the other parent had been a U.S. citizen for ten years, five of which were after age 14 (the law in 1961). His 18-year-old mother did not meet that last qualification.
Even if he was born in the U.S., he may still be an Indonesian citizen unless he declared an oath of allegiance to the U.S. after the age of majority (18 ) and thus reclaimed his U.S. citizenship.
There's nothing to it... unless he didn't do it.
Anna Dunham Obama went from Kenya to Hawaii.
Whether Anna (Dunham) Obama gave birth in Kenya or in Hawaii, she did travel from Kenya back to Hawaii. So there has to be a travel record, a U.S. Customs record of her re-entry to the U.S. from Kenya, her passport record of travel within a few days before or after his birth.
That would prove where she was on Aug. 4, 1961.
How can those [passport] records be retrieved [from the State Dept.]?
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Anna Dunham Obama went from Kenya to Seattle.
Aug. 19, 2013 - Upon further consideration, it seems unlikely that Anna Dunham Obama would have returned to Hawaii on her way from giving birth in Mombasa, Kenya, on Aug. 4th, to attending night classes at the Univ. of Washington in Seattle for the '61-'62 school year, beginning on Aug. 19th.
When the Obamas in Kisumu would not receive Barack II as family, Anna Obama had no further use for her husband in name only. She even moved back home to Seattle for at least 10½ months to avoid any contact with him, and she did not return to Hawaii until after he left the Islands for Harvard on June 22, 1962.
So, given that pattern of avoidance while deserting Barrack Obama, Sr., it seems most unlikely that Anna Obama, carrying a newborn baby, would have gone thousands of miles out of her way to visit her parents and friends in Honolulu for only a few days, at the risk of encountering her husband when she was trying her best to be rid of him.