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    More Shocking Revelations from NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden

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    Anytime Edward Snowden’s name is mentioned in the media lately, the term “shocked” isn’t too far behind.

    Just a few short days ago, it came out that Snowden once again shocked the American people when he confirmed that the National Security Agency — our NSA — co-created the Stuxnet virus with Israel to topple Iran’s nuclear program.

    Just a week before that, Snowden blew our minds with the additional admission that those free discount cards you get at stores aren’t just there to save you a little money, but they are actually being used to collect customer data and spy on you!

    Is nothing sacred?!

    While government crimes are widespread, systematic and seemingly continuous at this point…and the NSA and other agencies have clearly violated American citizens’ rights…it’s perhaps even more shameful that so many people are still oblivious to the enormity of this tyranny when it’s been all but rubbed in our faces. Repeatedly.

    (Also, if you’ve been paying attention for longer than five minutes, what did Snowden really tell you that didn’t already know?)

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    Nations Buying as Hackers Sell Computer Flaws

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    Luigi Auriemma looks for flaws in computer codes that his customers can exploit.


    Published: July 13, 2013

    On the tiny Mediterranean island of Malta, two Italian hackers have been searching for bugs — not the island’s many beetle varieties, but secret flaws in computer code that governments pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn about and exploit.

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    Donato Ferrante, a partner in the business. Such ventures are booming worldwide.

    The hackers, Luigi Auriemma, 32, and Donato Ferrante, 28, sell technical details of such vulnerabilities to countries that want to break into the computer systems of foreign adversaries. The two will not reveal the clients of their company, ReVuln, but big buyers of services like theirs include the National Security Agency — which seeks the flaws for America’s growing arsenal of cyberweapons — and American adversaries like the Revolutionary Guards of Iran.
    All over the world, from South Africa to South Korea, business is booming in what hackers call “zero days,” the coding flaws in software like Microsoft Windows that can give a buyer unfettered access to a computer and any business, agency or individual dependent on one.
    Just a few years ago, hackers like Mr. Auriemma and Mr. Ferrante would have sold the knowledge of coding flaws to companies like Microsoft and Apple, which would fix them. Last month, Microsoft sharply increased the amount it was willing to pay for such flaws, raising its top offer to $150,000.
    But increasingly the businesses are being outbid by countries with the goal of exploiting the flaws in pursuit of the kind of success, albeit temporary, that the United States and Israel achieved three summers ago when they attacked Iran’s nuclear enrichment program with a computer worm that became known as “Stuxnet.”
    The flaws get their name from the fact that once discovered, “zero days” exist for the user of the computer system to fix them before hackers can take advantage of the vulnerability. A “zero-day exploit” occurs when hackers or governments strike by using the flaw before anyone else knows it exists, like a burglar who finds, after months of probing, that there is a previously undiscovered way to break into a house without sounding an alarm.
    “Governments are starting to say, ‘In order to best protect my country, I need to find vulnerabilities in other countries,’ ” said Howard Schmidt, a former White House cybersecurity coordinator. “The problem is that we all fundamentally become less secure.”
    A zero-day bug could be as simple as a hacker’s discovering an online account that asks for a password but does not actually require typing one to get in. Bypassing the system by hitting the “Enter” key becomes a zero-day exploit. The average attack persists for almost a year — 312 days — before it is detected, according to Symantec, the maker of antivirus software. Until then it can be exploited or “weaponized” by both criminals and governments to spy on, steal from or attack their target.
    Ten years ago, hackers would hand knowledge of such flaws to Microsoft and Google free, in exchange for a T-shirt or perhaps for an honorable mention on a company’s Web site. Even today, so-called patriotic hackers in China regularly hand over the information to the government.
    Now, the market for information about computer vulnerabilities has turned into a gold rush. Disclosures by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. consultant who leaked classified documents, made it clear that the United States is among the buyers of programming flaws. But it is hardly alone.
    Israel, Britain, Russia, India and Brazil are some of the biggest spenders. North Korea is in the market, as are some Middle Eastern intelligence services. Countries in the Asian Pacific, including Malaysia and Singapore, are buying, too, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
    To connect sellers and buyers, dozens of well-connected brokers now market information on the flaws in exchange for a 15 percent cut. Some hackers get a deal collecting royalty fees for every month their flaw is not discovered, according to several people involved in the market.
    Some individual brokers, like one in Bangkok who goes by “the Grugq” on Twitter, are well known. But after the Grugq spoke to Forbes last year, his business took a hit from the publicity, according to a person familiar with the impact, primarily because buyers demand confidentiality.
    A broker’s approach need not be subtle. “Need code execution exploit urgent,” read the subject line of an e-mail sent from one contractor’s intermediary last year to Billy Rios, a former security engineer at Microsoft and Google who is now a director at Cylance, a security start-up.
    “Dear Friend,” the e-mail began. “Do you have any code execution exploit for Windows 7, Mac, for applications like Browser, Office, Adobe, SWF any.”
    “If yes,” the e-mail continued, “payment is not an issue.”

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    Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media ......Posted on March 17, 2011

    Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda (see article here:

    Pentagon Seeks to Manipulate Social Media for Propaganda Purposes ....Posted on July 20, 2011 (see article here:

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    Edward Snowden inflames US-Russian tensions with Moscow meeting

    Obama and Putin to discuss situation after NSA whistleblower meets representatives of human rights agencies in Moscow
    Friday 12 July 2013 17.46 EDT

    Edward Snowden (centre) gives a news conference at Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow with human rights activists. Photograph: Itar-Tass/Corbis

    The White House openly criticised Russia for giving Edward Snowden a "propaganda platform" on Friday, after the whistleblower was permitted to meet human rights activists in the Moscow airport where he has been trapped for three weeks.
    Hours before Barack Obama was due to speak with Vladimir Putin on the telephone, senior US officials publicly chided Moscow for facilitating the high-profile event.
    Snowden, a former contractor who leaked classified National Security Agency information about US surveillance tactics, has been trapped in a Sheremetyevo airport since arriving from Hong Kong on 23 June.
    In his first public appearance since identifying himself as the source of the leaks last month, Snowden met human rights lawyers and announced that he intends to renew an earlier request for asylum in Russia, although in the longer term he said he will seek safe passage to Latin America.
    Those present at the Moscow event said it must have been sanctioned or even choreographed by Russian officials; airport employees organised and conducted the event, and order was kept by a small cadre of policemen.
    In Washington, Obama's press secretary Jay Carney said the president would discuss Snowden's case with Putin during a scheduled phone call. "I would simply say that providing a propaganda platform for Mr Snowden runs counter to the Russian government's previous declarations of Russia's neutrality, and that they have no control over his presence in the airport," he said.
    "It is also incompatible with Russian assurances that they do not want Mr Snowden to further damage US interests."
    He added: "We don't believe this should - and we don't want it to - do harm to our important relationship with Russia. We continue to discuss with Russia our strongly held view that there is absolute legal justification for him to be expelled, for him to be returned to the United States to face the charges that have been brought against him for the unauthorised leaking of classified information."
    Asked about the involvement of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, both of which sent representatives to meet Snowden, Carney replied: "Those groups do important work. But Mr Snowden is not a human rights activist or a dissident. He is accused of leaking classified information, has been charged with three felony counts, and should be returned to the United States, where he will be afforded full due process."
    In comments unlikely to smooth diplomatic relations, he said the Russian government should permit human rights groups to do their work "throughout Russia, not just at the Moscow [airport] transit lounge".
    The White House would not be drawn on the likely content of Obama's phone call with Putin, but it seems inconceivable that the plight of the former NSA contractor will not be the subject of a difficult conversation.
    Putin's spokesman repeated the Russian president's previous declaration that Snowden should stop harming the interests of the US if he wants asylum. But in a sign that Moscow may be inclined to grant Snowden safe haven, Vyacheslav Nikonov, a pro-Kremlin lawmaker who attended the airport meeting, said the former spy appeared to be willing to meet that condition.
    At the Moscow airport meeting, Snowden said the US was undertaking "unlawful" attempts to prevent his arrival to countries in which he has been granted asylum. In a statement read at the meeting and released later by WikiLeaks, he described his decision to leak secret NSA documents to the Guardian and Washington Post as a "moral decision".
    "I did what I believed right," he said. "I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice."
    Despite Obama having claimed publicly that the US does not intend to expend much energy in securing the extradition of a "a 29-year-old hacker", the reality is that senior officials have been lobbying hard behind the scenes, particularly in Latin America, where three countries - Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia - have offered to grant Snowden asylum.
    Vice-president Joe Biden is known to have been instrumental in persuading Ecuadorean president Rafael Correa not to offer asylum to Snowden.
    The US is also widely believed to have been behind the decision by European countries to block a plane carrying the Bolivian president, Evo Morales, from traveling through their airspace amid suspicions that Snowden was on board.
    On Friday, a senior State Department official told the New York Times that countries throughout Latin America had been made aware of the repercussions of granting asylum to Snowden.
    Relations with any country seen to be helping the former NSA contractor would be "in a very bad place for a long time to come", the official said.
    At a State Department press conference, chief spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was disappointed that Russia appeared to have facilitated Snowden's high-profile meeting with human rights activists.
    Echoing the language used by the White House, she said: "Our concern here is [Snowden] has been provided this opportunity to speak in a propaganda platform, that Russia has played a role in facilitating this, that others have helped elevate this," she said.
    She said that Moscow's handling of the case risked damaging its relationship with the US, but added: "we are not at this point yet".
    Psaki said that Russia "still has the opportunity to do the right thing and help return Mr Snowden to the US

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    Snowden announces he will seek asylum in Russia - audio

    Former US intelligence contractor Edward Snowden announces he will seek asylum in Russia before attempting to travel to Latin America. Speaking on Friday at a press conference in Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport, Snowden says he can only at this time legally accept asylum in Russia, because of his limitations on travel. Snowden has been on the run since disclosing details of US surveillance programmes

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    How Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

    • Secret files show scale of Silicon Valley co-operation on Prism
    • encryption unlocked even before official launch
    • Skype worked to enable Prism collection of video calls
    • Company says it is legally compelled to comply

    Skype worked with intelligence agencies last year to allow Prism to collect video and audio conversations. Photograph: Patrick Sinkel/AP

    Microsoft has collaborated closely with US intelligence services to allow users' communications to be intercepted, including helping the National Security Agency to circumvent the company's own encryption, according to top-secret documents obtained by the Guardian.
    The files provided by Edward Snowden illustrate the scale of co-operation between Silicon Valley and the intelligence agencies over the last three years. They also shed new light on the workings of the top-secret Prism program, which was disclosed by the Guardian and the Washington Post last month.
    The documents show that:
    • Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new portal;
    • The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on, including Hotmail;
    • The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;
    • Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in that allows users to create email aliases;
    • In July last year, nine months after Microsoft bought Skype, the NSA boasted that a new capability had tripled the amount of Skype video calls being collected through Prism;
    • Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport".
    The latest NSA revelations further expose the tensions between Silicon Valley and the Obama administration. All the major tech firms are lobbying the government to allow them to disclose more fully the extent and nature of their co-operation with the NSA to meet their customers' privacy concerns. Privately, tech executives are at pains to distance themselves from claims of collaboration and teamwork given by the NSA documents, and insist the process is driven by legal compulsion.
    In a statement, Microsoft said: "When we upgrade or update products we aren't absolved from the need to comply with existing or future lawful demands." The company reiterated its argument that it provides customer data "only in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers".
    In June, the Guardian revealed that the NSA claimed to have "direct access" through the Prism program to the systems of many major internet companies, including Microsoft, Skype, Apple, Google, Facebook and Yahoo.
    Blanket orders from the secret surveillance court allow these communications to be collected without an individual warrant if the NSA operative has a 51% belief that the target is not a US citizen and is not on US soil at the time. Targeting US citizens does require an individual warrant, but the NSA is able to collect Americans' communications without a warrant if the target is a foreign national located overseas.
    Since Prism's existence became public, Microsoft and the other companies listed on the NSA documents as providers have denied all knowledge of the program and insisted that the intelligence agencies do not have back doors into their systems.
    Microsoft's latest marketing campaign, launched in April, emphasizes its commitment to privacy with the slogan: "Your privacy is our priority."
    Similarly, Skype's privacy policy states: "Skype is committed to respecting your privacy and the confidentiality of your personal data, traffic data and communications content."
    But internal NSA newsletters, marked top secret, suggest the co-operation between the intelligence community and the companies is deep and ongoing.
    The latest documents come from the NSA's Special Source Operations (SSO) division, described by Snowden as the "crown jewel" of the agency. It is responsible for all programs aimed at US communications systems through corporate partnerships such as Prism.
    The files show that the NSA became concerned about the interception of encrypted chats on Microsoft's portal from the moment the company began testing the service in July last year.
    Within five months, the documents explain, Microsoft and the FBI had come up with a solution that allowed the NSA to circumvent encryption on chats
    A newsletter entry dated 26 December 2012 states: "MS [Microsoft], working with the FBI, developed a surveillance capability to deal" with the issue. "These solutions were successfully tested and went live 12 Dec 2012."
    Two months later, in February this year, Microsoft officially launched the portal.
    Another newsletter entry stated that NSA already had pre-encryption access to Outlook email. "For Prism collection against Hotmail, Live, and emails will be unaffected because Prism collects this data prior to encryption."
    Microsoft's co-operation was not limited to An entry dated 8 April 2013 describes how the company worked "for many months" with the FBI – which acts as the liaison between the intelligence agencies and Silicon Valley on Prism – to allow Prism access without separate authorization to its cloud storage service SkyDrive.
    The document describes how this access "means that analysts will no longer have to make a special request to SSO for this – a process step that many analysts may not have known about".
    The NSA explained that "this new capability will result in a much more complete and timely collection response". It continued: "This success is the result of the FBI working for many months with Microsoft to get this tasking and collection solution established."
    A separate entry identified another area for collaboration. "The FBI Data Intercept Technology Unit (DITU) team is working with Microsoft to understand an additional feature in which allows users to create email aliases, which may affect our tasking processes."
    The NSA has devoted substantial efforts in the last two years to work with Microsoft to ensure increased access to Skype, which has an estimated 663 million global users.
    One document boasts that Prism monitoring of Skype video production has roughly tripled since a new capability was added on 14 July 2012. "The audio portions of these sessions have been processed correctly all along, but without the accompanying video. Now, analysts will have the complete 'picture'," it says.
    Eight months before being bought by Microsoft, Skype joined the Prism program in February 2011.
    According to the NSA documents, work had begun on smoothly integrating Skype into Prism in November 2010, but it was not until 4 February 2011 that the company was served with a directive to comply signed by the attorney general.
    The NSA was able to start tasking Skype communications the following day, and collection began on 6 February. "Feedback indicated that a collected Skype call was very clear and the metadata looked complete," the document stated, praising the co-operation between NSA teams and the FBI. "Collaborative teamwork was the key to the successful addition of another provider to the Prism system."
    ACLU technology expert Chris Soghoian said the revelations would surprise many Skype users. "In the past, Skype made affirmative promises to users about their inability to perform wiretaps," he said. "It's hard to square Microsoft's secret collaboration with the NSA with its high-profile efforts to compete on privacy with Google."
    The information the NSA collects from Prism is routinely shared with both the FBI and CIA. A 3 August 2012 newsletter describes how the NSA has recently expanded sharing with the other two agencies.
    The NSA, the entry reveals, has even automated the sharing of aspects of Prism, using software that "enables our partners to see which selectors [search terms] the National Security Agency has tasked to Prism".
    The document continues: "The FBI and CIA then can request a copy of Prism collection of any selector…" As a result, the author notes: "these two activities underscore the point that Prism is a team sport!"
    In its statement to the Guardian, Microsoft said:
    We have clear principles which guide the response across our entire company to government demands for customer information for both law enforcement and national security issues. First, we take our commitments to our customers and to compliance with applicable law very seriously, so we provide customer data only in response to legal processes.
    Second, our compliance team examines all demands very closely, and we reject them if we believe they aren't valid. Third, we only ever comply with orders about specific accounts or identifiers, and we would not respond to the kind of blanket orders discussed in the press over the past few weeks, as the volumes documented in our most recent disclosure clearly illustrate.
    Finally when we upgrade or update products legal obligations may in some circumstances require that we maintain the ability to provide information in response to a law enforcement or national security request. There are aspects of this debate that we wish we were able to discuss more freely. That's why we've argued for additional transparency that would help everyone understand and debate these important issues.
    In a joint statement, Shawn Turner, spokesman for the director of National Intelligence, and Judith Emmel, spokeswoman for the NSA, said:
    The articles describe court-ordered surveillance – and a US company's efforts to comply with these legally mandated requirements. The US operates its programs under a strict oversight regime, with careful monitoring by the courts, Congress and the Director of National Intelligence. Not all countries have equivalent oversight requirements to protect civil liberties and privacy.
    They added: "In practice, US companies put energy, focus and commitment into consistently protecting the privacy of their customers around the world, while meeting their obligations under the laws of the US and other countries in which they operate."

    • This article was amended on 11 July 2013 to reflect information from Microsoft that it did not make any changes to Skype to allow Prism collection on or around July 2012.

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    Prism: Everybody Was in on the Act

    Submitted by Pivotfarm on 07/14/2013 06:51 -0400

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    Looks like everybody was in on the act with complying with the National Security Agency’s spying around the world according to secret files. The Guardian newspaper of the UK has just obtained secret fails from Edward Snowden detailing the full extent of the affair. The affair was revealed just about a month ago now, but it now seems that Prism had everybody doing their dirty work.
    Prism: NSA

    Microsoft aided and abetted the National Security Agency to get around the problem of intercepting web chats via the portal, adding that they stated that they had no option to opt out of the affair. Pre-encryption access was already enabled via the same portal and in particular via Hotmail. The FBI was working closely with the NSA and Microsoft to gain access to 250 million users worldwide in the new storage service called SkyDrive. After Microsoft acquired Skype in July 2012, the number of calls being collected and monitored by Prism was multiplied by three! Apparently all information that was collected by the NSA via this means was then shared both with the FBI and the CIA. Skype has about 663 million users in the world alone. Up until last July, monitoring of audio calls was possible by Prism on Skype. After that date, it was also possible to access video via Skype and not just eavesdrop but see what was going on in the conversations. Skype had always prided itself on the fact that it was impossible to tap into the system and listen in on conversations. Obviously, people should never have believed that. Remember impossible is nothing, apparently.
    Obama is coming in for increasing slack and criticism regarding the Prism program since companies that have been involved in the shady monitoring of private individuals around the world are being questioned by users as to the protection of their privacy today. Those companies wish to be able to reveal the full extent of their dealings with the NSA and the Prism program so that they can allay fears of their users. Microsoft stated that they only passed on information and data "in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers". Seems like somebody is trying to either pass the buck, or downplay their full role in the whole affair. We only have to look back at the latest Microsoft slogan which is “Your privacy is our priority”. Yeah, right! Did they get wind of something coming or knowledge that all was to be revealed?
    The companies that have been revealed as playing a major role in the Prism program are those that are used daily by billions around the world: Google, Microsoft, Apple, Skype and Facebook amongst others.
    This information is revealed at a crucial time when Edward Snowden has issued a statement saying that he will remain in Russia, seeking help from human rights organizations to gain a safe passage to Latin America. He has been grounded at Sheremetyevo airport since June 23rd and has made numerous requests to countries around the world for political asylum. All have been refused for the present time except one: Venezuela. Nobody will allow Snowden safe passage out of Moscow airport since he no longer has any travel documents as the US administration cancelled his passport almost immediately in the wake of the whistleblowing scandal. Why can’t they just do like anybody else and rustle up a passport like they do for exiled wealthy people that are evading taxation in their country of origin?
    Just last week, countries such as France and Spain as well as Portugal refused to allow Evo Morales, President ofBolivia, to fly over their territories forcing the Presidential plane to land in Vienna, where he was stranded for 13 hours, under the belief that he had Snowden on board. That in itself was pretty rich from a country like France that prides itself at having (in their opinion) invented human rights during the French Revolution and when we consider thatPresident François Hollande went into great theatrics over the discovery that France had been spied on, vociferating that he wanted to call off the US-EU trade deal talks (at least for a cooling-off period of two weeks). Snowden stated that: "Never before in history have states conspired to force to the ground a sovereign president's plane to effect a search for a political refugee. This dangerous escalation represents a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America or my own personal security, but to the basic right shared by every living person to live free from persecution”. Here, here! Where did the freedom of speech go and where did the right to live in a society that protects its citizens? Can we call Snowden’s revelations an act of treason?
    Snowden has accused the US of carrying out an “unlawful campaign” and denying him his right to asylum. He went on to add that “the scale of threatening behavior is without precedent”, which certainly would leave one to surmise that what he has revealed already is not a patch on the information that he actually has. But, despite accusations that Snowden has revealed secret information to the world, and in particular to the enemies of the US, the man is not a traitor. Surely, he has done everything that anyone should do. The right to a private life and to privacy in society is a fundamental principle on which the nations that are shouting the loudest have built their democracies, isn’t it? Where did the Bill of Rights go? What happened to the habeas corpus? Why did the Universal Declaration of Human Rights get written at all?
    Prism: the right to privacy?

    Just a few things to muse over:

    • Article 9 of the Universal Declaration of Human

    Rights“No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile”. Snowden has been subjected to that.

    • Article 12

    “No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks”. Millions have had this article overlooked by the NSA.

    • Article 13

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State”.
    “Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country”. Snowden has had that right revoked.

    • Article 14

    “Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution”. Except Edward Snowden, perhaps?

    • Article 15

    “Everyone has the right to a nationality”.
    “No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality”. Edward Snowden has been deprived of that nationality that went with his passport being cancelled.
    Where are the defenders of the Declarations that we were proud of signing now?
    Whatever happens, it looks like Edward Snowden is a man on the run, or at least he would very much like to be able to start a gentle jog somewhere.
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    Greenwald: "The US Government Should Be On Its Knees Every Day Praying That Nothing Happens To Snowden"

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/13/2013 19:43 -0400

    Edward Snowden may be America's persona most non grata in the entire world, but he has an insurance policy against "accidents": a treasure trove of supposedly damaging secrets about the US that will hit the public domain if something were to happen to the 30 year old whistleblower. A trove is so damaging that according to Glenn Greenwald, Snowden "poses more of a threat to the U.S. than anyone in the country’s history." Well, maybe a threat to the "government" which now only represents the interests of various corporations and Wall Street, but certainly not to what the US was supposed to be before it was hijacked by special interests, lobbies and the creature from Jekyll Island.

    In an interview with Argentinian newspaper La Nacion, The Guardian's journalist who first broke the Snowden story, said that "Snowden has enough information to cause more damage to the U.S. government in a minute alone than anyone else has ever had in the history of the United States.

    Asked if he was afraid that Snowden might be killed, Greenwald said: “If something were to happen, those documents would be made public. This is your insurance policy," according to The Hill.

    "The U.S. government should be on your knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden, because if something happens, all information will be revealed and that would be their worst nightmare," Greenwald added.

    As noted earlier, it is Latin America, China and Russia that is the model "axis" for Greenwald, as only those countries are not afraid to stand up to US bullying and intimidation. That this bipolar distribution of world powers will likely define world events for the years to come is certainly something to keep in mind.

    Greenwald said the asylum offers from Latin America showed that the U.S. was less intimidating to certain countries around the world.

    “Only a few countries, including several in Latin America, China and Russia, have challenged the U.S., have realized that America is no longer in a position of strength as it did before with the rest of the world, and that the rest of the countries do not have to obey their demands as if it were an imperial order,” Greenwald said.

    Of course, resolving the Snowden "situation" does not have to be terminal: the 30 year old would likely survive some 40-50 years in maximum security penitentiary if preserving his life was of tantamount importance: something the US legal system, responsible for such smash hits as Eric Holder, would have no problem with.

    Still, the consistent critic of U.S. intelligence policies also said that Snowden’s position was dicey, and that the leaker needed to stay out of U.S. custody – given how “extremely vindictive” American officials have proven.

    The American judicial system, Greenwald said, "cannot be trusted when it comes to people accused of endangering the national security. The judges do everything they can to secure convictions in these cases."
    * * *
    The full interview with a rough English translation as recommended by Greenwald himself, is below:

    "Snowden has enough information to cause more damage to the U.S. government in a minute alone than anyone else has ever had in the history of the United States," said the NATION Greenwald, 46, and since these latitudes write regularly on international security issues have made him famous, winner of several distinguished awards.

    Today, the New Yorker, a former lawyer, is in the eye of the storm. Lawmakers in Washington want to put him on trial, spies of various countries seek Snowden secret information shared with him last month in Hong Kong and he still sent from Moscow through an encrypted email system. He knows he's being watched and that their conversations are monitored. They even steal the laptop from her boyfriend Rio, of your own home.
    Three men wait in the lobby of the hotel Royal Tulip with credentials of a congress of osteoporosis which the custodian has no idea. Are they really doctors or are following Greenwald?

    Appearances are deceptive.

    - Does Snowden's decision to stay in Russia while achieving come to Latin America?

    -Yes, the most important thing is not to end in U.S. custody, which proved extremely vindictive government to punish those who reveal uncomfortable truths, and in whose judicial system can not be trusted when it comes to people accused of endangering the national security, the judges do everything they can to secure convictions in these cases. It would be immediately put in prison to cover the debate that helped generate, and end the rest of his days behind bars.

    - Russia gives security guarantees?

    -Not many countries in the world that have the ability and willingness to defy U.S. demands. But Russia is one of those countries and it has been good so far.

    - Beyond the revelations about the spying system performance in general, what extra information has Snowden?

    -Snowden has enough information to cause more damage to the U.S. government in a minute alone than anyone else has ever had in the history of the United States. But that's not his goal.

    Its objective is to expose software that people around the world use without knowing what they are exposing themselves without consciously agreeing to surrender their rights to privacy. It has a huge number of documents that would be very harmful to the U.S. government if they were made public.

    - Are you afraid that someone will try to kill him?

    It's a possibility, although I do not bring many benefits to anyone at this point. Already distributed thousands of documents and made sure that several people around the world have their entire file. If something were to happen, those documents would be made public. This is your insurance policy.

    The U.S. government should be on your knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden, because if something happens, all information will be revealed and that would be their worst nightmare.

    - Can Latin America be a good shelter for Snowden?

    -Only a few countries, including several in Latin America, China and Russia, have challenged the U.S., have realized that America is no longer in a position of strength as it did before with the rest of the world, and that the rest of the countries do not have to obey their demands as if it were an imperial order.

    In Latin America feels a natural sympathy for the United States, yet there is a great resentment for specific historical policies of Washington toward the region. What happened to the plane of Evo Morales in Europe caused a strong reaction, was treated as if Bolivia was a colony and not a sovereign state.

    -From Snowden shared documents with you, there is much more information related to Latin America?

    Yes For each country that has an advanced communications system, such as from Mexico to Argentina, there are documents that detail how the United States collects the traffic information, the programs that are used to capture the transmissions, the number of interceptions are performed per day, and more. One way to intercept communications is through a telephone corporation in the United States that has contracts with telecommunications companies in most Latin American countries. The important thing will be to see what the reaction of the various governments. I do not think that the governments of Mexico and Colombia do much about it. But maybe those of Argentina and Venezuela itself willing to take action.
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