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    David Chivers of Iowa defends the illegal alien murder of Mollie Tibbetts

    I've got this guy named David Chivers spamming my Twitter account... race-baiting, gender baiting, and doing his best to pressure me to stop talking about how Mollie Tibbetts was murdered by an illegal aliens who should not have been in America illegally working a job in the first place.

    In my opinion, this guy really hates the fact America is talking about the immigration factors in Tibbetts's murder.

    Since he is having a meltdown on my page, I've decided to save our comments here so they cannot be altered or deleted later. Here I will create a lasting record so others can see what David Chivers Former Regional President @DMRegister & @USAToday. #DesMoines #Iowa native has to say about people like me who want to stop illegals from raping, harming, and killing innocent US citizens.



    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC Aug 21
      Mollie #Tibbetts murder by illegal alien indicative of much wider problem in America (Share) https://www.alipac.us/f8/mollie-tibbetts-murder-illegal-alien-indicative-much-wider-problem-america-361649/ …


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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers Aug 27

      Indicative of male violence against women regardless of status. More than 1,600 women are killed by men in the U.S. every year. 93% by men the victim knew (many spouses). Where’s your outrage? See this family member’s statement: https://www.facebook.com/100013284091496/posts/524382918014507/ …

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC Aug 28

      I am outraged that you would come here and publicly defend illegal alien killers and rapists who broke into the US in violation of our laws while also taking an opportunity to try to bash all men. Instead of focusing on gender, look at how the laws & government failed Mollie

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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers Aug 28

      I’m not bashing all men. Just the ones that kill people, particularly women. If you can’t see the difference, I am sorry for you and your outrage.

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC Aug 29

      You did not say some men, you indicated "men" and in doing so you engaged in the very hate speech you claim you oppose. You are just another liberal subjectivist throwing around demographic terms to suit your identity politics dividing Americans by our immutable characteristics

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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers Aug 29

      You obviously didn’t read my full post or the link I shared. Your hatred is consuming you. I’m sorry for that, but your latest arguments are grasping and illogical at best. Take care. Please do read #WhiteFragility. It may change your perspective.

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC Aug 29

      I read all you posted and my love of America & Americans is what compels me to fight against socialist globalist totalitarians like you who eagerly actively conceal & dismiss the mass atrocities committed against Americans by your illegal alien Democrat voters logic is on my side

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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 24h24 hours ago

      Like I wrote before, “grasping and illogical, at best.” Your anger and hatred keeps you from even having a coherent discussion. The Tibbetts family would appreciate if you stopped usurping Mollie’s legacy for your hate.

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 23h23 hours ago

      1. U don't speak for the Tibbetts family. 2. The Tibbetts family does not control this national debate. 3. My concerns are justified + logical and not based on irrational racial hatred as you falsely + continuously infer because your argument is so weak!




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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 18h18 hours ago

      1. Your leaps to conclusion are dizzying and lack any intellectual rigor. 2. Dismissing the family’s wishes as it relates to their daughter makes you a jackhole. 3. Your meme, while reinforcing your white fragility, has no bearing. We’re two white guys talking. What a jerk!

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      William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC

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      No surprise to see you digress into juvenile name calling That's what socialists do when confronted with facts, logic, and truth. While my opinion in this matter leads to fewer Americans like #MollieTibbets killed, your opinion and politics lead to more preventable deaths & loss

      10:39 AM - 30 Aug 2018


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      You continue to ignore the Tibbetts family’s requests. As though they don’t exist. You then project your behavior back on me sans irony. It’s been interesting, but I need to get back to reality. Enjoy your campaign and incoherent ranting with the next person. You are lost. Peace!

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 5h5 hours ago

      I've acknowledged the request of a #MollieTibbetts family member & I've declined her request we not talk about how Mollie was killed by an illegal alien who shouldnt have been in America working a job in violation of numerous unenforced laws in the interest of saving lives.

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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 5h5 hours ago

      So glad you’ve declined a grieving family. I stand my my earlier assertion. You are a jerk. Way to do-opt their grief.

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 4h4 hours ago

      I did not "decline a grieving family" I declined the suggestion of one family member you are touting with a political agenda of her own that is contrary to my focus and goals. She may not want Mollie's preventable death to save other Americans but I do.

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    • Replying to @ALIPAC
      You continued to call me names through most of your replies. “Globalist, totalitarian, socialist’” etc. You accused me of playing the “gender and race cards.” And accused me of hate speech. You refuse to acknowledge more than 1,600 women killed in this country every year. So sad!

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 5h5 hours ago

      What I refuse to do is allow you or anyone else to obfuscate & change the topic This debate is about how our government failed to enforce our existing laws, borders, & Constitution which facilitated the deaths of #mollietibbets + thousands of Americans like her each year.

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    • David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 4h4 hours ago


      That’s simply what you want the debate to be about. Ignoring more than 1,600 other Americans killed each and every year. Your patriotism is very myopic. Resort to name-calling and lame memes all you want. Your narrow, calloused views punctuated by incoherence hurt your cause.

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    • William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 4h4 hours ago

      What failures to enforce existing US laws & Constitutional provisions contribute to the 1,600 deaths you are focused on? Our focus is on saving the thousands of Americans needlessly killed by the illegal aliens you support who are killed by lax enforcement + open borders.


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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 5h5 hours ago

    David Chivers Retweeted William Gheen
    Here’s a new 1 for me. I am a white, cisgender man, & I was accused both of playing gender and race cards during an exchange with this guy (another white man) — @ALIPAC. #WhiteFragility #WhitePrivilege #xenophobia on full display. No respect for family’s wishes.

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    William Gheen @ALIPAC
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    1. U don't speak for the Tibbetts family. 2. The Tibbetts family does not control this national debate. 3. My concerns are justified + logical and not based on irrational racial hatred as you falsely + continuously infer because your argument is so weak!

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 5h5 hours ago

    I highly doubt this is the first time you have tried to blame a whole group of people based on their immutable characteristics of gender to defend & distract from your support of illegal aliens violating numerous US laws leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans each year!



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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 4h4 hours ago









    Why you keep trying to portray it this way. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Men disproportionately kill women. While you are on your anti-immigration rant, more than 1,600 women will die in 2018. Your response? I hate men? No empathy for those Americans being murdered?

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 4h4 hours ago









    Nobody on my side of this debate has taken issue with anyone focused on other crimes. Why do you take issue with Americans who want to prevent illegal aliens from taking US jobs, taxpayer benefits, and lives. Is it because you want more illegal Democrat voters to win elections?

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 4h4 hours ago









    As well as the fact that there is a much larger loss of human life every year in this country by men killing more than 1,600 U.S. women annually. Something that you immediately accused me of playing “gender” games. No remorse. No meaningful dialogue. Good luck to you.

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 4h4 hours ago









    It's not about who kills more or less It's not about men vs women or white vs brown It's the numerous innocent Americans killed by illegal aliens each year due to the non-enforcement of US laws . We want to stop these crimes & save lives u want to stop us because we are not Dems

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 3h3 hours ago









    Not true. Simply not true. I could careless about your party affiliation.

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 3h3 hours ago









    Then you tell us why you care so much about attacking + stopping Americans who would do all they can to prevent the death of #MollieTibbetts + the many other Americans killed by illegal aliens each year? What motivates you to fight for illegals?

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 3h3 hours ago









    I care about standing up to jerks who tell half-truths, share selective data, make jumps with a lack of data, and disrespect a family’s wishes to keep a dead girl’s name and likeness out of your crusade. You fit the bill. Weak, mean and sad.

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 3h3 hours ago









    All you care about is trying to smear the name of someone you don't know & attack research you have neither conducted nor reviewed. You are just another left-wing trash talking smear merchant and you are a part of the reason so many Americans suffer from illegal immigration.

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 2h2 hours ago









    Yawn. What did you say about name calling and weak arguments earlier?

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 2h2 hours ago









    You can yawn and call me a jerk all you want. Still does not change the fact you are advocating for censorship and suppression of the information + discussions regarding #mollietibbetts that affects national and personal security for all American families.

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 2h2 hours ago









    Nope. Asking for you to respect the wishes of an American family who lost a daughter, sister, and cousin. You’re the jerk how won’t see reason or compassion for a grieving family. Take the last word. It’s all yours. I’ve wasted enough time with you.

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 2h2 hours ago









    Stop misrepresenting the truth repeatedly. The family of #MollieTibbetts has not asked anyone to stop discussing illegal immigration issues leading to her death. Only one or two distant relatives have said anything to give left-wing politicians like you ammo.

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    Replying to @ALIPAC
    Also, I'm not a politician. Facts still matter to some of us. I really can't waste any more time with you. It's been enlightening, but I'm moving on. As I said before, if you need the last word, you're welcome to it.

    2:45 PM - 30 Aug 2018


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    Run away now.... Come back anytime you need a dose of the truth.



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    David Chivers Retweeted William Gheen
    .@SteveKingIA, one of your fanboys sent me this meme. Can you help explain? Does this mean I’m not invited to the middle-age white guy club? Or should I take some other meaning from this? #Xenophobia #WhiteNationalist #WhitePrivilege #Bigotry #ia4 #IA04 #ia04

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    William Gheen @ALIPAC
    Replying to @davidchivers
    1. U don't speak for the Tibbetts family. 2. The Tibbetts family does not control this national debate. 3. My concerns are justified + logical and not based on irrational racial hatred as you falsely + continuously infer because your argument is so weak!





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    Replying to @davidchivers @SteveKingIA
    Stop thrusting your despicable left-wing racism into the #MollieTibbetts murder. Your insertion of race and racism says a lot about who you are @davidchivers not the non-racist Americans who want to save lives through immigration & border law enforcement You are very dishonest

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 1h1 hour ago









    Right. I'm racist against whom?

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 1h1 hour ago









    You have falsely called others racist without a shred of evidence hoping we would run away. But we don't run from your tired worn out race cards. You continue to insert your racial ideas into the Tibbetts case. That's on you, not me!

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 1h1 hour ago









    What are my racial ideas? How am I a racist? Against whom again?

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    William Gheen‏ @ALIPAC 1h1 hour ago









    You have falsely stated our concerns are based on racial hatred and two posts back you added tags for White Nationalism, White privilege, and bigotry. How did you forget the race bait you threw in just two posts back? Very selective memory you have. Might want to get new meds

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    David Chivers‏Verified account @davidchivers 53m53 minutes ago









    Wasn't talking about race, but you sure enjoy talking about it a lot. Why is that? And, @SteveKingIA continues to spew posts and selective data that supports a #WhiteNationalist agenda steeped in #Bigotry and #WhitePrivilege. If you fit the mold, so be it. @SteveKingIA does.

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    "Men disproportionately kill more women"?


    So David Chivers advocates WE just open the flood gates to every violent man who wants to come here illegally from around the Globe with NO vetting or authorization and DISPROPORTIONATELY kill more of our women?

    David Chivers...do we just roll out the Welcome Mat!

    We have enough crime in this country...we certainly do not need to import more of it.

    I do not care what color they are and where they come from. We need a 10 year moratorium on ALL immigration and clean this mess up and get proper facial recognition and tracking systems in place.

    COLOR HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH A DERANGED PERSON WHO STALKS AND MURDERS OUR CITIZENS! BEING HERE ILLEGALLY HAS 100% TO DO WITH IT AND THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED!

    ThE violence and the criminal acts carried out by FOREIGNERS is accelerating at a pace we cannot keep up with due to this unrelenting invasion of our country and NO tracking system in place...let alone LIBERAL Judges who let these illegal aliens back on our streets!

    As far as respecting Mollie Tibbets...this IS national news and affects ALL our citizens whether they are male or female.

    No one has "disrespected" Mollie Tibbets or Kate, or JAMILE...WHO IS A MALE KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, or Sarah or any of our loved ones who have been RIPPED from their families arms due to ILLEGAL immigration!


    WHAT "WHITE PRIVILEGE" DID MOLLIE OR KATE HAVE WHEN THEY WERE KILLED IN COLD BLOOD!
    TO BECOME AN AMERICAN YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR VALUES ...NOT YOUR LOCATION

    STAY HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL

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    This David Chivers is just one of many. We have politicians making speeches (same as he is spouting) and their audience cheering them on. Just a few years ago even the dims were against this country being invaded.

    What happened? Did someone poison the water with stupid pills?
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    Will David Chivers "White Privilege Card" save him from a drunk driving illegal alien that should not be in our country or driving on our roads? Better watch out for your own self buddy boy.

    Now these illegals are using their cars to kill people, MEN, women and children! They run them over, they use their cars to stalk people...just like the illegal who stalked Mollie.

    NO DACA
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    NO AMNESTY
    NO ASYLUM AT OUR PORTS OF ENTRY
    NO MORE ANCHOR BABY SCAM
    NO FREEBIES!
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