Thread: A Return to Nationalism

Accoring to the pro illegals returning to nationalism in this country would be akin to racism and xenophobia.

Originally Posted by Oldglory

Accoring to the pro illegals returning to nationalism in this country would be akin to racism and xenophobia.

The term 'racism' was coined by the communist, Leon Trotsky in the '30's to marginalize ethnic resistance to bolshevism in Russia. We need to use a less inflammatory term such as 'ethnocentrism' to describe the legitimate concerns of various races and ethnic groups, especially as it relates to invasion of their homelands by invaders.

"Xenophobia' is actually a normal and adaptive reaction to the influx of too many strangers. Today, the liberal elites are suffering from 'xenomania', the love of foreigners in preference to our own people. This disorder has permeated every institution of the Western world.

Originally Posted by Achilles

Originally Posted by Oldglory

Accoring to the pro illegals returning to nationalism in this country would be akin to racism and xenophobia.

The term 'racism' was coined by the communist, Leon Trotsky in the '30's to marginalize ethnic resistance to bolshevism in Russia. We need to use a less inflammatory term such as 'ethnocentrism' to describe the legitimate concerns of various races and ethnic groups, especially as it relates to invasion of their homelands by invaders.

"Xenophobia' is actually a normal and adaptive reaction to the influx of too many strangers. Today, the liberal elites are suffering from 'xenomania', the love of foreigners in preference to our own people. This disorder has permeated every institution of the Western world.

In the pro illegal's eyes returning to nationalism is akin to wanting an all white country when that simply isn't true of most of us. It is national pride and wanting to protect our identity and culture as a nation from those who wish to change it and especially via illegal immigration.

Ethnocentric is an ample description of Hispanics in this country who put their ethnic kind who are here illegally above our laws and that is akin to xenomania.

As for xenophobia, yes that is a fear of strangers. But what ethnic group/race is a stranger in our country? None, that I know of. We have citizens from all backgrounds and races living here. In short, the pro illegals put these labels on us because they have no viable arguments for defending illegal aliens so they demonize those of us who oppose that.

As for xenophobia, yes that is a fear of strangers. But what ethnic group/race is a stranger in our country? None, that I know of. We have citizens from all backgrounds and races living here. In short, the pro illegals put these labels on us because they have no viable arguments for defending illegal aliens so they demonize those of us who oppose that.

Maybe you are too young to remember, but this country was largely of European ancestry (along with the blacks who were formerly slaves) until Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration law that opened the floodgates to Third World immigration to the USA. For a full discussion of this massive demographic change, please read "Death of the West" by Pat Buchanan.

Originally Posted by Achilles

As for xenophobia, yes that is a fear of strangers. But what ethnic group/race is a stranger in our country? None, that I know of. We have citizens from all backgrounds and races living here. In short, the pro illegals put these labels on us because they have no viable arguments for defending illegal aliens so they demonize those of us who oppose that.

Maybe you are too young to remember, but this country was largely of European ancestry (along with the blacks who were formerly slaves) until Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration law that opened the floodgates to Third World immigration to the USA. For a full discussion of this massive demographic change, please read "Death of the West" by Pat Buchanan.

Um no, I am in my early 70's. I have read Buchanan's book. Great read.

Also read State of Emergency by Buchanan. Similar to Death of the West but with even a stronger focus on illegal immigration -- it was written in 2006 when their was a firestorm in the nation over illegal immigration because of the May Day protests. It also gives a detailed insight into what is happening to Europe, gives a strong historic backdrop to the debate, and ties it together with what happened to Rome.

About "racism." IMO it is simply a term applied to whites (and only whites, apparently) who want the basic ethnic interests afforded any other race. Nothing more. It is designed to put whites at a comparative disadvantage. Hurray for equality.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

About "racism." IMO it is simply a term applied to whites (and only whites, apparently) who want the basic ethnic interests afforded any other race.

Yes, apparently it doesn't apply to other races than caucasian, otherwise why would there be a Congressional Black Caucus and a hispanic group called La Raza (The Race)!?! Imagine if there was a Congressional White Caucus or a caucasian group called The Race?

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Originally Posted by Achilles

Don't forget to read "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War" by Pat Buchanan. It shows how Churchill was ultimately responsible for both wars and for the rise of communism in Russia.

I've read it

Few realise how blood-thirsty Churchill actually was, and how that war was utterly destructive and unnecessary. It dispells many myths about the war and answers many questions I have asked my entire life regarding contradictions about how "pure and noble" that horrible war was.

Currently reading Suicide of a Superpower by Mr. Buchanan.

I read State of Emergency. Great book!

How does "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War" deal with what the Nazis were doing to the jews?

Since BearFlagRepublic has not yet answered this question, let me say that Pat Buchanan does not in any way applaud the crimes of the Holocaust. But he does state that if Churchill had not encouraged both world wars, it is verly likely the conditions would not have existed for the persection of the Jews to exist in the first place.

Originally Posted by patbrunz

How does "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War" deal with what the Nazis were doing to the jews?

Pat says that the unspeakable crimes of the Nazis were met with just punishment either at the gallows or in the bunker. However, the holacaust was NOT the cause of the war, rather, it was a horrible consequence of it. The Nazis had always been terribly anti-semitic, however, in peace time they had not systematically exterminated Jews. Rather, their plan was to make life so horrible for German Jews, that they would leave Germany. It was not until 1941, 2 years after the war had begun, after the US had entered that the war, and the USSR invaded, that the Einsatzgruppen trailed the Wehrmacht into the Soviet Union, exterminating Bolsheviks, commisars and Jews.

Hitler and Goebbels were convinced that Jewish elements in the US and England were responsible for the war. After the allies had agreed to unconditional surrender of Germany, and the Morgenthau Plan -- the destruction of all German industry -- Goebbels convinced Germans that extermination of their hostages was the price the Nazis exacted for their own extermination.

Very sad. But as Achilles suggested, had there been no war there probably would have been no holocaust. Churchill pushed hard for both wars with Germany, and Britain bungled into it.