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    What McCain Means by Patrick J. Buchanan

    What McCain Means
    by Patrick J. Buchanan

    Posted: 01/25/2008

    In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits. Forty-six percent of Hispanics voted for Prop. 200, giving the lie to those who say Hispanics support the illegal invasion of their country.

    Over 190,000 Arizonans petitioned to put Prop. 200 on the ballot. As it simply required proof of citizenship before receiving the benefits and privileges of citizenship, who could oppose it? Answer: the entire GOP congressional delegation, led by Sen. John McCain.

    This is the same John McCain who battled the border fence and colluded with Teddy Kennedy on the amnesty bill rejected by Congress last year after a national uproar.

    Bottom line: If the presidential race is between Hillary and Amnesty John, the border security battle is over and lost. As Laura Ingraham asks, "If Congress passes McCain-Kennedy in 2009, would President McCain sign it?"

    For conservatives, the stakes could not be higher.

    For on the great controversies, McCain has sided as often with the Democrats and the Big Media that pay him court as with conservatives.

    Where President Bush has been bravest, on taxes and judges, McCain has been his nemesis. Not only did McCain vote against the Bush tax cuts twice, he colluded to sell out the most conservative of the Bush nominees to the courts.

    In 1993, McCain voted to confirm ACLU liberal and pro-abortion Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism, McCain colluded with Democrats who wanted to retain power to kill Bush's most conservative nominees.

    McCain helped form the Gang of 14, including seven Democrats, who agreed to block a GOP Senate from using the "nuclear option" -- allowing a simple GOP majority to break a Democrat filibuster of judicial nominees -- unless the seven Democrats approved. McCain thus conspired with liberals to put at risk the most courageous conservatives nominees of President Bush.

    With his record of voting for liberal justices Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and of colluding with Democrats in their campaign to kill the most conservative Bush nominees, what guarantee is there a President McCain will nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?

    In the battle over campaign finance reform, McCain colluded again. The McCain-Feingold law denies to gun folks and right-to-lifers their basic First Amendment right to name friends and foes in ads run before elections.

    As for the policies that have transparently failed Bush and the nation, McCain remains an obdurate advocate.

    After America has run five straight record trade deficits that have denuded the nation of thousands of factories and 3 million manufacturing jobs, McCain is still babbling on about Smoot-Hawley.

    "When you study history, every time we've adopted protectionism, we've paid a very heavy price," McCain told a Detroit paper after informing Michiganders their auto jobs are never coming back.

    But what history is John McCain talking about?

    Was the Tariff of 1816, which saved infant U.S. industries from the malicious dumping by British merchants after the War of 1812, a failure? Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Calhoun and Henry Clay fools to support President Madison's tariff?

    From Abraham Lincoln through Calvin Coolidge, the Republican Party -- the Party of Protection -- put 12 presidents in the White House to two for the Democrats, and the United States became the mightiest industrial power in history, producing 42 percent of the world's manufactured goods.

    This is failure -- while Bush free trade is a success? Tell it to Ohio.

    Even Hillary Clinton, whose husband enacted NAFTA with McCain's support, has begun to question the NAFTA paradigm. Not McCain.

    Where Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon came to office determined to extricate the nation with honor from a war whose costs had begun to outweigh any benefit, McCain is talking about spending 50 or 100 years in Iraq.

    Where Bush, by moving NATO onto Russia's doorstep, planting bases in Central Asia and intervening in the affairs of Russia's neighbors, has undone the work of Reagan in making Russia a friend, he sounds like George McGovern alongside the braying McCain, who can't wait to get into Vladimir Putin's face.

    Where Bush finally cleansed his administration of neocons, if not of their legacy, a McCain candidacy is the last, best hope of a neocon restoration and new military adventures in the Middle East.

    If Rudy Giuliani founders in Florida, neocons will be chanting, "Mac is back!"

    The three issues that ruined the Bush presidency are this misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America's borders from invasion and a mindless trade policy that has destroyed the dollar and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America at fire-sale prices.

    McCain remains an unthinking advocate of all three.

    But where Bush was at his best, on taxes and judges, McCain was collaborating with Hillary. The question conservatives may face if McCain is nominated is not whom should I vote for, but should I vote.

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    Vote for Mitt Romney!!! HE IS THE BEST MAN THAT CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE McCAINE'S AMNESTY AND ILLEGALS INVASION!!! VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY TO BE THE PRESIDENT 2008!!!
    DO NOT VOTE FOR McCAINE-HE WILL SELL THIS COUNTRY TO ILLEGALS!!tom, TNJan 25, 2008 @ 10:04 AM
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    Patrick is correct. As always.

    Trouble is, the course has been set. It makes no difference whether it is McCain or Clinton. The "highway to hell" is the same.

    This nation is no longer strong enough to do the right thing. Her people are the problem. Not the politicians, lawyers, businessmen - none of them.

    We the people are the problem. We can ultimately blame no one but ourselves. We the people shall soon reap what we have sown. WalkswithCherokee, TennesseeJan 25, 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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    RON PAUL!
    WAKE UP!Brian, NHJan 25, 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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    Pat is great at pointing out what is wrong but he takes his marching orders from the Republican party and thus will not speak out for RON PAUL. I imagine he would vote for McCain over RON PAUL - a real hypocrite.Douglas Ward, Grover Beach,CaJan 25, 2008 @ 10:46 AM
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    Right as usual Pat!TxConfederate, TXJan 25, 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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    Sadly I must agree with another earlier post that we the people have allowed this disease of political dysfunction to fester. We the people no longer have the will to govern ourselves. We are beyond apathy. As they say about civilizations, Bondage is next in line for the people when apathy sets in. Indeed, the question is "not whom to vote for, but should I vote?"Tagudinian, FloridaJan 25, 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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    I'm afraid the "Smoot-Hawley" chant has been ingrained too deeply on Americans. Heck, I read "The Great Betrayal", remember that the argument is specious, but can't remember why--because the media hasn't spoon fed it to me every other day for 25 years.

    Keep at it Pat. We'll get it eventually.Dean Arnold, Chattanooga, TN Jan 25, 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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    McCain is the only Repub I will vote for. Pat, I love you but you and Limbaugh are doing your best to destroy McCain. Romney is a robot who will get trounced. McCain actually has a spine Dave, VirginiaJan 25, 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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    Good article Pat, but ya know, McCain was anointed by the Republican Party...If the Party isn't happy with him, why is he still a member? I do agree with your assessment of McCain. Why is it that everyone I talk to doesn't want open borders, yet the most probable candidates are going to throw the borders open. I really don't understand.Joe, Kansas City, MissouriJan 25, 2008 @ 11:54 AM
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    Pat your comments are so on target. I have seen the real McCain. He is a loose cannon who is holding back his temper and hatred for the Republican party. Mitt Romney is the only one of the herd that knows anything about how the economy works. McCain's answer in the debate that he wishes interest rates were zero, show he lacks even a basic understanding of market economies. I can not believe that we are going to try to put another Bob Dole on the ticket. The clinton machine will chew him up and spit him out so fast that Mac will be looking forward to the rest home before the general election.
    Vote Romney, He is Americas only hope this time around!!!Mike, Centennial WyomingJan 25, 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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    BUSH 1988; CLINTON 1992-1996; BUSH 2000-2004; CLINTON 2008?

    WHAT A BUNCH OF SHEEP!!

    BaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaTom, kcmoJan 25, 2008 @ 12:00 PM
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    It doesn't matter who wins, the path to the decline of America is all set. It would take a economic depression of 10-15 yrs for the people of this country to wake up.Nick, AtlantaJan 25, 2008 @ 12:03 PM
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    I like much of what Ron Paul has to say. But why must his supporters turn EVERY article into a "let's vote for Ron Paul" opportunity?

    Let's try to stay on topic. Big Jim, South SideJan 25, 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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    In the left corner.......Clinton
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    What is the difference?
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    In the left corner.......McCain

    At the bell...........Ron Paul

    Ron Paul for 2008!!
    endtimes, across americaJan 25, 2008 @ 12:12 PM
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    In the left corner.......Clinton
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    What is the difference?
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    In the left corner.......McCain

    At the bell...........Ron Paul

    Ron Paul for 2008!!
    endtimes, across americaJan 25, 2008 @ 12:13 PM
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    I love the last sentence of this column! Justin Huber, Lapeer, MIJan 25, 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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    I don't think Bush has much of a positive legacy re taxes. Sure he reduced taxes, but so what? Bush also is THE most financially irresponsible president in history, putting us at almost $10 Trillion in debt. (Debt was about $5 Trillion when Bush II took office). Mr. Bush may have cleaned his administration of the neo cons, but did so in name only. The neo con spirit lives on. Peggy Noonan is right on this one:'Dubaya' destroyed the Republican Party. Take Mr. Bush's trade policy as an example. No amount of reality got through to these guys. (Maybe it was just that they were that corrupt?). And McCain? I don't think he is going to secure our borders for one thing. His policy in Iraq is another issue where McCain is out of touch. What's wrong with the Republican Party?Paul S, USAJan 25, 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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    Pat is right again . If McCain or any of the Democrats are elected the U.S will look like Miami in fifty years . Rampant corruption , increased gang activity , skyrocketing crime , unlicensed doctors and dentists working out of their homes , real estate scofflaws reducing home value , a bought justice system , nepotism and cronyism , no insurance , and a lazy work force that doesn't pay taxes . Take a look at Mexico City or Havanna and you get my point . If you don't speak Spanish , good luck .

    Romney can slow it down , the others won't try . Jake, MiamiJan 25, 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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    New York Times endorsement? Enough saidmark m, salt lake cityJan 25, 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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    John McCain's arrogance will be his undoing. George Bush showed the same know-it-all, just shut-up and follow me bravado, that has led us into two wars with diminishing hopes of victory and elevated levels of debt. Where is Osama?Dave, Massachusetts Jan 25, 2008 @ 01:23 PM

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    Dave of Virginia are you kidding me on Mitt being Spinless? how do you figure? By my way of thinking a guy does not do so well in business (the real world, not Washington) and make 100's of Millions of dollars by not being TOUGH! and having Backbone. Mcain tough? give me a break. He'll bend over everytime for a Liberal cause!
    I just can't believe he has remained as Arizona senator as long as he has. Perhaps they will find someone to replace him.
    Vote Mitt!Shane, Garland, UtJan 25, 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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    I never liked McCain. He is a neocon.Joe Soltis, BronxJan 25, 2008 @ 02:25 PM
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    McCain would have us in Iraq for 100 more years. He is horrible. Romney is as bad a liar as Bill CLinton is, and people have started calling him "Windsock". He blows whichever way the political winds do. Giuliani is a man-whore--not a good Catholic. Huckabee is a socialist. Only Ron Paul has what it takes to prevent the American Road to Serfdom from being paved further. The reason we post about Ron Paul on this site is because Pat likes him *and* he is marginalized by the controlled media. Go Ron Paul!!!Michael S., Charlottesville, VAJan 25, 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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    Most politicians are for amnesty... Huckleberry Hound, cRudy the Crook, ALL the democrats, heck, even his eminence GWB. The government is gonna let 'em in, folks! Get used to it! Real ID is so slow that the number of illegals will double by 2014. You saw the Gaza wall? That will be the USA/Mexico wall! They'll knock it down and stream in like rats! Real ID and the wall are only placeboes to feed to the masses. Mexico can't feed themselves... they don't have water, not to mention no leadership, infrastructure, or brains. Maybe the best we can do is an 'oil for bodies' trade to quench our insatiable thirst. Get used to it, folks. They're comin' in! There ain't no Santa Claus. One more thing... I said it before... BUY GOLD... its gonna double, even from where its at. Its a PERFECT STORM... the only thing we export is jobs, we got war, and more war (you can pick, Iran?, Pakistan?), we got recession, and then we got handouts from the government to keep the 'Monopoly' game going, and now low interest rates to top it off!... ITS A LOCK!waitoneminutenow, vaJan 25, 2008 @ 02:53 PM
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    Pat needs to admit some support for Ron Paul. It's ok Pat. You and Ron are the only two people media or candidacy wise that are talking the straight talk. It almost sickens me to hear the candidates blather on about supporting the war because sadam was a bad man blah blah blah. At least Ron Paul has the guts and the courage to speak the truth!Rob S. , St. Louis, MOJan 25, 2008 @ 03:07 PM
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    "It doesn't matter who wins, the path to the decline of America is all set. It would take a economic depression of 10-15 yrs for the people of this country to wake up."... Dave... I absolutely agree! Illegals are pouring in to "live the American dream"... which is?... to engage in rampant consumption, of course! If we 'conserved' then fewer illegals would bust in. Plus, in the economic war with China (Japan, India, the Mideast, take your pick), they would 'eat it' far worse than us! They are relying on us to burn up our nation to buy their goods. If everyone were to tighten their belt by only 1 notch, and save a small percentage of their income I would have to sweat about making money on gold... as is... ITS A LOCK!waitoneminutenow, vaJan 25, 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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    I don't usually *heart* isolationist Buchanan, but I will make an exception today!

    "Migrant" terrorists and drug/people/weapons smugglers *heart* anti-fence R. Perot Paul!!J David W, Silver City, "New" MexicoJan 25, 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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    What happen to the real conservatives. We need to elect an outsider from Washington.That would be Mitt Romney. Self made successful business man,that has a wonderful family,married only once.He believes in traditional values. He understands the economy and he knows how to get things done. The perfect ticket would be Mitt Romney and Fred thompson for vice-President.maureen McKnight, BocaRaton FlaJan 25, 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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    Attention Floridians... there's only one man standing who can defeat John McCain and it's not Thompson, Paul, Giuliani or Huckabee. Please vote for Mitt Romney on Tuesday. Newzaroo, St. Pete, FLJan 25, 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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    Political Correctness has been used to shackle the American People. The people in DC are mere puppets, working for those who have always hated us, hated Western Civilization. They are driving it into the ground. Our politicians are unprincipled, they take the bribes, accept the threats of "bad press" and figure they'll just have fun now while everything collapses. They either think they'll get away, go somewhere else or die of old age before the big collapse. Bob Peers, CaliforniaJan 25, 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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    If I don't get my ideal candidate, then I won't participate and will allow someone who is much worse win. I am simply too pure to compromise. The words "shame" and "stupidity" come to mind.George, Omaha, NEJan 25, 2008 @ 04:14 PM
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    Bush would have signed the McCain-Kennedy bill, too, and opponents were still able to kill it. So we'd be no worse off under McCain than under Bush. Romney might aruably be better on some of these issue, but I just don't think this country is ready for a robot president. McCain is better than Hillary Rotten Clinton, if for no other reason than having to hear Bill Clinton yapping on all the time will make us all ill.SvenJan 25, 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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    McCain = sell-out to free trade and Mexico
    Huchabee = high taxes and free schooling for ilegals
    Giuliani = gay marriage and a slough of liberal policie
    Paul = surrender our pride like in Vietnam and let liberal states like Massachussetts decide if they want gay marriage

    That leaves only ROMNEY. At least he is financially smart and has Tancredo's endorsement (strong against illegal immigration). Out of the candidates left, ROMNEY is the only choice (and incidentally the only real Republican left)!Logical Thinker, KC, KansasJan 25, 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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    Pat’s article has nailed down exactly what Senator McCain’s policies and beliefs are. Here in Arizona the state is fast becoming a war zone with the drug runners and illegal aliens. We have lost over 35% of our high tech jobs in the last 3 years due to outsourcing. This is the result of the policies that Senator McCain supports.

    What you have to understand is that whether Hillary or Barack Obama or Senator McCain wins the President’s office there will be no change in the policies that are destroying our nation. Things will only get worse. That’s why the Washington elites and the multi national corporate heads are all gag gag over Senator McCain.

    US FLYER, PHOENIX, ARIZONAJan 25, 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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    John McCain has sold the Republican party down the drain, laa George Bush. He may have been a "war hero" Republican but his thinking and voting today is more along the lines of the Democrats. If nominated to run for the Republican party, I will, as I have in the past, cast a no vote. Too bad Mr. Buchanan isn't running this year. He would be a shoo -in with the conservative voters.Charlie Whitlock, Hemet, CAJan 25, 2008 @ 04:40 PM
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    The first comments are heavy on my mind. We are getting what we deserve, The wealth have bought our polititions and we, the middle and lower income citizens, have allowed it to happen. A band, in the 60's called stepenwolf called it, " The Monster". McCain is same as the Old Boss!!! Rick, Costa Mesa,CaJan 25, 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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    If the Bush family did not finish off the GOP, McCain surely will. Xenophon, AtlantaJan 25, 2008 @ 05:02 PM
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    I went from being a McCain entusiast in the primaries of 2000 to being completely against him. Pat makes excellent points. McCain is weak on immigration and voting for conservative jurists. His gang of 14 escapade was an absolute betrayal! Please fellow Republicans, stop worrying about being liked by the Big Media and the East/West Coast establishment. Politics isn't about feeling good, it's about doing good. Vote for anyone but McCain in the primaries!Bob, Monroe, CTJan 25, 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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    Yeah... for me, I fear it is coming down to (holding my nose)... Romney. I love what Ron Paul says! But he is either 200 years ahead or 200 years behind. We can't get there from here. Too bad... Ron shows how far 'we the people' have strayed from the path set by BRILLIANT MEN who cared more about their country than 'politics'. God bless America!waitoneminutenow, vaJan 25, 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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    I know some of you guys get tired of hearing it......but why the hell won't Pat support Ron Paul. All of the pundits and talking heads are beside themselves because there is no Republican candidate who is "conservative". Ron Paul stands for all the things that conservatives and Republicans are supposed to stand for like limited government, reduced spending, lower taxes, por-life, etc. yet they ignore him. It is like someone who keeps running past a pump and bucket and fretting over how they are going to put out their burning house. It is right in front of you. I've come to the conclusion that conservatives pay lip service to conservative values and when it comes time to actually do something about it, they decide they like their gubmint cheese just like the liberals.Keith, Oklahoma CityJan 25, 2008 @ 05:44 PM


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    OOOooooooo this is going to be good, and I haven't even read it yet. I just saw Buchanan on John McCain and I began to salivate :P
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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    Re: What McCain Means by Patrick J. Buchanan

    Yep, it was awesome

    I liked this part:

    But what history is John McCain talking about?

    Was the Tariff of 1816, which saved infant U.S. industries from the malicious dumping by British merchants after the War of 1812, a failure? Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Calhoun and Henry Clay fools to support President Madison's tariff?

    From Abraham Lincoln through Calvin Coolidge, the Republican Party -- the Party of Protection -- put 12 presidents in the White House to two for the Democrats, and the United States became the mightiest industrial power in history, producing 42 percent of the world's manufactured goods.

    This is failure -- while Bush free trade is a success? Tell it to Ohio.

    Even Hillary Clinton, whose husband enacted NAFTA with McCain's support, has begun to question the NAFTA paradigm. Not McCain.
    HELL yeah, Pat. Tell 'em.
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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    Please read comments at both threads.

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    Move to NEW Section for "Non-Citizen & Illegal Migrant Voters."

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    From Post #1 below on "Non-Citizen & Illegal Migrant Voters":

    In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits.

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