I'd be well off if I made that much. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by imblest
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I'd be well off if I made that much. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by imblest
There is a lawsuit going on now because the employer asked for a green card on top of the documents the applicant presented. The govt. thought this was TOO much and they charged discrimination. Unbelievable!
Have you noticed that Meg is not only a liberal when it comes to illegal immigration and abortion, but is also an admirer of Obama's communist czar Van Jones? She is a republican? I wish she had not even entered the race. Now I have no one to vote for!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMom
I brought this over from another thread just to round off who meg Whitman REALLY is. This youtube is so pathetic, that it hurts to watch. Right now I wish I lived anywhere but CALIFORNIA!
I mean this is the REPUBLICAN candidate? I think she is more like a Democrat plant to insure a loss. Get out the little motion sickness bag before you watch this ignorance.
On May 6, 2009, Meg Whitman, who is running for governor of California, told reporters that she is a huge fan of Obama green czar Van Jones.
Meg Whitman in 2009 : "I'm A Huge Fan Of Van Jones"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSn37TMX ... r_embedded
The Mafia always covered their trail with fake enterprises. All of the ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS realize that many "subcontractors" or"employment agencies" are organized exclusively to hire ILLEGALS while they persist in seeking out these “subcontractorsâ€Quote:
Originally Posted by johannah
Yeah, because we all know that people who hire illegals go through employment agencies, right? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by gofer
ALIPAC's Poll and Clarification on Meg Whitman arrest release.
Please read, understand, and vote!
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-213996.html
You and me both!!!!!!!! My unemployed husband would be THRILLED to have a job making that much!!! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by mkfarnam
Employers who hire illegal immigrants can be fined, but the Obama administration warned this week that they also can be fined for asking legal immigrants to show their green cards before hiring them.
The Justice Department's civil rights division sued the Maricopa County Community Colleges in Arizona, seeking damages from schools for having "intentionally committed document abuse discrimination."
Prior to this year, the local colleges in the Phoenix area asked job applicants who were not U.S. citizens to show a driver's license, a Social Security card and their "permanent resident card," commonly called a green card.
The Justice Department said a valid driver's license and a Social Security card are usually sufficient to show that a person is authorized to work. Requesting a green card amounts to "immigration-related employment discrimination," said Thomas E. Perez, the assistant attorney general for civil rights.
Federal law forbids treating "authorized workers differently during the hiring process based on their citizenship status," Perez said. He said the department's Office of Special Counsel will bring legal actions against employers who impose "unnecessary and discriminatory hurdles to employment for work-authorized non-citizens."
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/ ... f1680.html
Agencies made just for illegals.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMom
WHY do they need green cards if it's against the law and discrimination to ask to show it??? This is beyond nuts and Perez is enabling illegal aliens to get jobs and stay in the country. Does asking for a card hurt their feelings or something. I can't wrap my head around this insanity.
I agree with you. Arresting Meg Whitman would be premature in this case, since there isn't enough probable cause. The other thing is if that were to happen, a few million other people would have to be arrested for doing the same thing. Of course if they did start arresting people for hiring illegal housekeepers, a big chunk of the illegal immigration would probably come to a screeching halt.Quote:
Originally Posted by shirl32
Meg Whitman is Jerry Brown/John McCain in a skirt. IF only immigration were the only problem she has! She's a globalist and supports the UN agenda 21...which will DESTROY this nation!
There is a good alternative...If you don't send the GOP the message to STOP giving us their elitist, globalist candidates, they never will!
William, you're right on with this!
Whitman is BIG on Agenda 21
Part of an interview with Chelene Nightengale:
And, by the way, I noticed that former eBay CEO Meg Whitman is also running and as a Republican. I have to say that I thought Ms. Whitman was a staunch Progressive. Didn’t she say that she greatly admired self-avowed Communist and former ObamaCzar Van Jones and that she and he were on the same “climate changeâ€
Ive received about 20 emails from people screaming they are leaving ALIPAC and very upset with our statement on this situation.
I'm writing them back with the following....
(Name),
Just so I understand you clearly. Are you saying to me that if we feel a candidate is a better choice in an election we should adjust our advocacy for the enforcement of America's existing border, immigration, and labor laws accordingly or subserviently to those considerations?
Sincerely,
William Gheen
www.alipac.us
William, I cannot believe people are willing to give this TERRIBLE woman (yes, I mean Meg!) a pass! She KNEW the woman was illegal. She coddles illegal aliens.
You will INSURE amnesty!
You will INSURE the UN's agenda 21 and worse.
I'd rather see ol' Jerry Brown destroy this state than a RINO. She is NO better than him.
You could vote for an actual CONSERVATIVE who wants to protect California! And send the GOP a message at the same time.
She has been all over this state, working her butt off, it's time someone paid attention.
The GOP will NEVER give us good candidates if you keep pushing and voting for the likes of Meg Whitman.
http://www.nightingaleforgovernor.com/
You are sooooooooooooooooooo right on AuntB!Quote:
Originally Posted by AuntB
If someone hands you a SS card, valid drivers license with an application, how do you tell if they are illegal? According to Perez, attorney in the civil rights division asking for a green card is discrimination and a SS card is sufficient. The woman stated she was an illegal permanent resident and gave a number plus came from an agency that is prominent enough to serve the likes of Whitman. Maybe she had a fake green card also.
This reminds me of the lady who held-up in the church for months and finally was deported. This lady may be deported with a sack of money to go home with....
I noticed the woman listed 11 brothers and sisters, 8 in the U.S. and 3 in Mexico.
We are sick and tired of illegal aliens. THe politicians must start deporting all illegals.
Whitman's illegal immigration policy:
http://www.megwhitman.com/platform_topi ... mmigration
I support ALIPAC and I have been fighting against illegal immigration for over 7 years but in this instance I believe ALIPAC is jumping the gun.
Meg Whitman's campaign headquarters has released application papers showing a Social Security card and a drivers licence for Diaz Santillan that would lead anyone to believe she was legally in this country.
Whitman says the house keeper was in charge of the mail, which is usual when people have house keepers. Whitman further says the house keeper may have removed the letter in 2003, intended to inform Whitman of Santillan's illegal status.
According to the Social Security Administration's website, such letters first go to the employee, and then are sent to an employer about two weeks later — making it plausible that Diaz Santillan could have been on the lookout for it.
Agency spokesman Mark Lassiter said that from 2003-2006 an employer had to have more than 10 employees whose Social Security numbers and names did not match to receive a warning letter.
Whitman says the house keeper informed her in 2009 that she was in the country illegally, at which time, Whitman suspended her and later fired her.
If Whitman was informed in 2003 about Santillan's illegal status, why would the woman feel the need to confess in 2009?
Santillan attorney, Gloria Allred, has contributed to the Democratic party's Jerry Brown, Whitman's political opponent and to other Democrats. Whitman say's her former house keeper is being used by Brown in a smear campaign which could very well be the case.
Allred also said Diaz Santillan was mistreated, and said she will file a claim against Whitman for back pay and mileage. She provided no proof to document those allegations. Sounds to me like someone is looking for monetary gain.
I don't live in California and won't be voting in that state but I personally find it disturbing that ALIPAC has seemingly already convicted this lady and are calling for her arrest. Why not use a bit of common sense and wait to call for her arrest until the allegations have been proven?
Exactly, Whitman is being accused of knowing she was illegal. The confession makes no sense if Whitman knew all along. Condeming Whitman makes no sense since she did exactly what she was supposed to do...fire her when she found out about her.Quote:
...why would the woman feel the need to confess in 2009?
Whitman knew EXACTLY what this woman was. She took care of her kids and was in her home for NINE YEARS. NINE YEARS!!! Surely in that time she noticed her lack of character....or didn't care!
If that's the kind of 'help' Meg picks out, why does ANYONE want her as a governor? If she truly didn't know, she's too damn dumb to serve in public office.
William, outline what you think Meg Whitman should have done and her legal grounds to protect her as your support for what you think she should have done. Please, give us a Step 1, Step 2, Step 3...guidelines on what she should have done differently. Make sure that your steps are lawful in the state of CA. I'm curious what you think she should have done differently to make sure the woman hired was a legal citizen and not get sued in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC
Here are some of the initial results of our survey, although very few people have voted yet (around 300)
I will update when we have more solid numbers
QUESTION 1
ALIPAC's call for Nikki Diaz and Meg Whitman to be arrested and their evidence weighed in a court of law I....
Agree with the call
204 67.3%
Neutral or No Opion
29 9.5%
Disagree with the call
64 21.1%
No Responses
3 <1%
Totals 303 100%
QUESTION 2
My support for ALIPAC's fight against illegal immigration and Amnesty for illegals after this press release calling for the arrest of Meg Whitman and Nikki Diaz is...
The same as it was yesterday
175 57.7%
Stronger
93 30.6%
Lower
23 7.5%
Gone, I withdraw my support for ALIPAC
9 2.9%
No Responses
3 <1%
Totals 303 100%
QUESTION 3
Meg Whitman's claim she was duped and has documents to prove she did not know she hired an illegal for nine years are...
Good enough for me
56 18.4%
Better analyzed by law enforcement and courts
241 79.5%
No Responses
1 <1%
Totals 303 100%
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Originally Posted by CaliMom
What she should have done is to make sure that any employee she hired or any firm she hired employees through used the voluntary Everify and SAVE programs provided by ICE.
She knew she was hiring foreign born labor in a state eaten up with illegal aliens. She hired this woman and put her in proximity with her children, her valuables, and the inner sanctum of her home.
How irresponsible can you get to even take a chance that an illegal alien that has not passed through the required medical, criminal, and terrorism background checks would occupy such a position for 9 ears.
Who knows what kind of major political leaks back to the Dems and the pro Amnesty crowd happened due to this operative lodged in the middle of the Whitman home. If this is how the woman fails to protect her own family and belongings, it speaks ill of her ability to maintain the security of a state!
All business leaders and political leaders that are going to use foreign labor need to use the free programs to make sure their workers are legal.
W
I find it hard to believe that billionaires do not use private investigators to research and find out WHO is in their house.
I also find it hard to believe that the Republican Party elites were unaware of this potential bomb as well.
I support ALIPAC and the rule of law as well as full disclosure concerning political aspirants. (too bad it took so long)
Good luck AuntB, keep up the good fight.
Oh, so e-verify was available to your everyday CA citizen back in 2000 to use? Um, no, it was not. That is not an option that was available to Ms. Whitman when the woman was hired, William.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC
Your assumptions make no sense, which lead me to believe this is more personal against Ms. Whitman than factual. Your claim that "she knew" the woman is illegal and she was irresponsible to allow her access to her valuables, home, and family knowing she was illegal makes no sense and is clearly your speculation You have no factual evidence to back that up.
How do know Ms. Whitman "knew she was illegal"? Really, show us how you know that for a fact.
I MYSELF WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT FEEDING THEM AND GIVING THEM A BELLY FULL WHILE I'M AT IT. THESE PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT :!: THEY DON'T THINK OF THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OUT OF WORK AS WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND HUNGRY. AND THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN THE U.S.A. TO AMERICAN CITIZENS, AND ALL THEY CAN THINK ABOUT IS THE POOR ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO ARE HAVING IT A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY :!: AND I ALSO WISH I HAD MY WAY TO SPEAK MY MIND ABOUT THIS DUMBED DOWN GOVERNMENT :!: CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME :!:Quote:
Originally Posted by imblest
William said: "
She knew she was hiring foreign born labor in a state eaten up with illegal aliens. She hired this woman and put her in proximity with her children, her valuables, and the inner sanctum of her home.
How irresponsible can you get to even take a chance that an illegal alien that has not passed through the required medical, criminal, and terrorism background checks would occupy such a position for 9 ears.
Who knows what kind of major political leaks back to the Dems and the pro Amnesty crowd happened due to this operative lodged in the middle of the Whitman home. If this is how the woman fails to protect her own family and belongings, it speaks ill of her ability to maintain the security of a state!
All business leaders and political leaders that are going to use foreign labor need to use the free programs to make sure their workers are legal.
W"
Right on. If she wasn't a member of the squatter support squad, she would have hired someone who spoke ENGLISH....this woman wasn't doing well at it today, much less NINE years ago! Whitman knew. She PREFERRED 'foreign' born.
Geez, William, are we in a freakin' time warp? Some of these folks sound like FROBL's! LOL
Gee whiz! Meg and Obama are just alike. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by AuntB
Whitman didn't know that an illegal alien was running her home, and handling her mail, even though she had worked inside her home for nine years. Just like Obama didn't know what his Rev Wright thought about America after sitting in his church for twenty years. :roll:
Either they are both out and out ball faced liars, or they are two of the dumbest people I have come across.
I didn't address this little tidbit because it is about the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. So now the illegal alien woman was an operative lodged in the Whitman home? Bwahahaha! Pure, unadulterated INSANITY!Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC
Sorry, but that statement is just crazy cakes, William.
Was E-Verify and SAVE available at the time Whitman hired this woman? Should the Company that sent her to Whitman not have done this verification prior to sending her on a job? Is anyone calling for the arrest of Colin Powell?Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC
I am appalled by the stance ALIPAC has taken. I do not care if Jerry Brown or Meg Whitman are accused of having an illegal alien working for them, this article was stupidly written. ALIPAC is convicting w/o the facts. That is something Liberal Progressive ideologues do--not us. I am unsubscribing to the blog as I do not want to be part of a group that would react to an obvious political stunt, put on by a left wing hack, five weeks before an election. ALIPAC did a dis-service to themselves and the rest of us who believe we need to stop reacting to BS put out by hacks on both sides. Instead, let's get the fact, and get them right, before blowing our integrity, character and forever more believability.
I don't know about you CaliMom, but if there were a lying fraud criminal illegal alien maid working in my home, I wouldn't put ANYTHING past her/him.
Oh no, did Colin Powell also hire an illegal alien political operative? :P
Me, either. Is the FBI investigating this "operative" working in the Whitman home? I expect to see that request in the next ALIPAC Press Release tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodOleDays
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Originally Posted by CaliMom
Listen, I do not condone hiring illegals. Not at all. Anyone who knows me knows that I am anti illegal immigration, which is why I joined ALIPAC and Numbers USA years ago.
However, I think this energy is misdirected and ill timed. I think Ms. Whitman used the tools available to her at the time to check the employee's residency status. I don't think she could have used e-verify to check the woman's residency status. I don't think the woman is a political or corporate spy trying to get information from the Whitman home.
I could see going after the agency because they probably hired many, many illegals and passed them off as legal residence hires to many unsuspecting families.
I just think that calling for the arrest of Ms. Whitman is ridiculous and I stand by that assessment at this time.
I have no personal vendetta against Meg Whitman. I've never met the woman, never spoken with her on the phone, never even exchanged emails with her. I have no agenda other than the stated platform and goals of ALIPAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliMom
Would it be possible for you to disagree with me on something without resorting to false allegations?
W
Yes GoodOleDays, I said that and I stand by it.
Would it be possible for you to disagree with Ms. Whitman without calling her a liar and other allegations you have no support to make?Quote:
Originally Posted by ALIPAC