Thread: ALIPAC in national media: Volunteers needed to set the record straight

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

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Our press release dropping our endorsement of Trump is on fire in the national media! Even Rush Limbaugh mentioned the steps we are taking today and the Drudge Report is linking to a Gateway Pundit article about our efforts.

We are hearing from both new supporters who applaud our steps and angry Trump supporters who are often confused and falsely believe we are criticizing Trump over the bad budget deal and actions by Democrats and RINO Republicans. We expected this level of disappointment and confusion and we know what to do. We just keep telling people the truth till the smoke clears like we've done many times before!

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1. ALIPAC is not a George Soros funded PAC attacking Trump from the left. We are a non-partisan PAC that has stood up against illegal immigration & Amnesty since 2004!

2. Neither Congress, the courts, nor Democrats have made Trump break his campaign promises to end DACA Amnesty and refugee resettlement. Trump alone is responsible for not honoring those promises.

3. People who say Trump should have more time should be asked how much more than 100+ days should Trump be allowed to violate the Constitution, existing immigration laws, his oath of office, and his campaign promises in order to give jobs, ID, and amnesty to illegals?

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Let's deploy ALIPAC activists and do our best to help others understand why we have been forced by Trump to withdraw our endorsement from within his base of support.

If ALIPAC is willing to go all the way to withdraw support for the best hope for combating illegal immigrants and illegal immigration without confronting the rest of our elected officials, especially among the Republicans and especially Ted Cruz, then something very suspicious is going on. And especially since so many here at ALIPAC endorsed Ted Cruz over Trump and did everything possible to undermine his candidacy.

It is entirely obvious that withdrawing endorsement for Trump is of the same fabric as the opposition to his candidacy.

I'm all for keeping the pressure on to combat illegal immigrants and illegal immigration, but I don't think withdrawing endorsement of Trump as an opponent of illegal immigrants serves any useful purpose except to advance the careers of Republicans who continue to undermine his presidency.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

If ALIPAC is willing to go all the way to withdraw support for the best hope for combating illegal immigrants and illegal immigration without confronting the rest of our elected officials, especially among the Republicans and especially Ted Cruz, then something very suspicious is going on. And especially since so many here at ALIPAC endorsed Ted Cruz over Trump and did everything possible to undermine his candidacy.

It is entirely obvious that withdrawing endorsement for Trump is of the same fabric as the opposition to his candidacy.

I'm all for keeping the pressure on to combat illegal immigrants and illegal immigration, but I don't think withdrawing endorsement of Trump as an opponent of illegal immigrants serves any useful purpose except to advance the careers of Republicans who continue to undermine his presidency.

It is becoming more clear each week among many of us studying everything the Trump administration is actually doing and saying about illegal immigration that Trump plans to try to please the Globalists and the Nationalists at the same time.

This means he is playing up the "Secure the Border First" rhetoric used to advance the Gang of Eight amnesty bill we were barely able to stop and he intends to give immigration reform amnesty to most illegal aliens including the vast majority of DACA Amnesty recipients.
You can hear this plan in the interview with Helen Aguirre Ferre promising future amnesty to illegal aliens on KJZZ radio! (Listen)

Trump is making it very clear that he is on the same gameplan with the Globalists Obama was in his willingness to violate the US Consitution, numerous existing laws, his oath of office, and his campaign promises to keep supporting DACA.

There is nothing suspicious happening at ALIPAC and no secretive Cruz alliance going on.

In fact, it exceptionally offensive for anyone to suggest that pkskyali after I lost more than 25% of the donors it took 13 years of my life to organize away by endorsing Donald Trump over Ted Cruz!

THE FACT IS ALIPAC OPPOSES AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS, AND WE OPPOSE POLITICIANS THAT LIE TO AMERICANS, VIOLATE THE CONSTIUTIOIN, VIOLATE IMMIGRATION LAWS, VIOLATE THEIR CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND OATH OF OFFICE, AND CUDDLE UP WITH PRO-AMNESTY OPEN BORDERS SNAKES LIKE PAUL RYAN AND JOHN MCCAIN.

THEREFORE WE OPPOSE DONALD TRUMP ON THESE ISSUES, AND IT IS RIDICULOUS TO THINK WE WOULD KEEP OUR ENDORSEMENT UP AND ASK OUR SUPPORTERS TO VOTE FOR, LOBBY FOR, DONATE TO, AND SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP ANYMORE.

The problem is not with ALIPAC. The problem is with Donald Trump, and you should all be focusing your attention on what Trump and his administration are doing that forced us to either drop our endorsement or be a bunch of walking talking hypocrites backing DACA by backing Trump.

ALPAC dropping our endorsement resulted in the equivalent of what would have been millions in ad expenses to alert Trump, his staff, and Americans like us to this problem. By dropping our endorsement, we just mounted more pressure on Trump to honor his promise than any other group or individual in America.

By dropping our endorsement, we can now begin the process of organizing Americans and preparing them to FIGHT TRUMP'S AMNESTY before he permanently devastates America passing an immigration reform amnesty bill that dwarfs what Reagan did to the country!

When we endorsed Trump we attracted a lot of new people that were enthusiastic about Trump into our ALIPAC networks and now while we will lose some of them, we are now attracting people that are willing to stand up to Donald Trump when he is wrong.

W

... and where is Ted Cruz in all of this? Would you, right now, support Ted Cruz for president in 2020? Ted Cruz? You know, the Canadian, the "dual citizen", the man who should be ineligible for president for the exact same reason that Obama was supposed to be ineligible for president as claimed by the so-called "birthers" for all those years?

Originally Posted by pkskyali

... and where is Ted Cruz in all of this? Would you, right now, support Ted Cruz for president in 2020? Ted Cruz? You know, the Canadian, the "dual citizen", the man who should be ineligible for president for the exact same reason that Obama was supposed to be ineligible for president as claimed by the so-called "birthers" for all those years?

Man, you need to get over this obsession you seem to have for Cruz and move on.

Originally Posted by MW

Man, you need to get over this obsession you seem to have for Cruz and move on.

You need to answer the question.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

You need to answer the question.

I can't answer for ALIPAC, but for me the question is not relevant to ALIPAC's reason for removing its endorsement of President Trump. In other words, the two aren't connected.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

... and where is Ted Cruz in all of this? Would you, right now, support Ted Cruz for president in 2020? Ted Cruz? You know, the Canadian, the "dual citizen", the man who should be ineligible for president for the exact same reason that Obama was supposed to be ineligible for president as claimed by the so-called "birthers" for all those years?

We made our position on Ted Cruz very clear when we lost many supporters because we released the intel on Heidi Cruz's involvement with the CFR and Building a North American Community documents. I dont understand how anyone here on these boards could have missed or forgotten that.

And you come on here pksykyali saying that ALIPAC is dropping support for Trump but not taking on the other lawmakers responsible for illegal immigration and amnesty?

Where the heck have you been dude? That is ridiculous and you should know better. Do you even get our email alerts?

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

We made our position on Ted Cruz very clear when we lost many supporters because we released the intel on Heidi Cruz's involvement with the CFR and Building a North American Community documents. I dont understand how anyone here on these boards could have missed or forgotten that.

And you come on here pksykyali saying that ALIPAC is dropping support for Trump but not taking on the other lawmakers responsible for illegal immigration and amnesty?

Where the heck have you been dude? That is ridiculous and you should know better. Do you even get our email alerts?

W

Originally Posted by pkskyali

If ALIPAC is willing to go all the way to withdraw support for the best hope for combating illegal immigrants and illegal immigration without confronting the rest of our elected officials, especially among the Republicans and especially Ted Cruz, then something very suspicious is going on. And especially since so many here at ALIPAC endorsed Ted Cruz over Trump and did everything possible to undermine his candidacy.

It is entirely obvious that withdrawing endorsement for Trump is of the same fabric as the opposition to his candidacy.

I'm all for keeping the pressure on to combat illegal immigrants and illegal immigration, but I don't think withdrawing endorsement of Trump as an opponent of illegal immigrants serves any useful purpose except to advance the careers of Republicans who continue to undermine his presidency.

If your focus is strictly on immigration issues and you care enough about elected officials to make some kind of display of pulling an endorsement of Trump, then why not at the same list those elected officials you do endorse and those elected officials that you refuse to endorse. And maybe compare these with Trump. Place the whole thing in context.

The whole thing is in context on our website with those we Endorse being supported and on display 24/7 365 at

https://www.alipac.us/campaign/

and those we oppose including the Republicans on the Cantor List that we have fought hard for 3 years to run up every flagpole we can at..

https://www.alipac.us/f8/cantor-list-321399/

and the entire section of ALIPAC.us we have dedicated to "Illegal Alien Amnesty Supporters To Blame" at

https://www.alipac.us/34-illegal-ali...rs-blame.html/

it would be ridiculous and next to impossible for us to try to include such long lists in every post, show, or press release we do. We've never done this because it would be very time consuming, eat up too much space, and distract from the point of focus.

And our primary message, which is a very important one about Trump, would be buried and less effective and less likely to be understood and shared if we wrote it out like a lawyer's fine print as you suggest Pkskyali.

It would read Today ALIPAC dropped our endorsement of Trump but we still endorse 35 NAMES IN A ROW WHILE SPECIFICALLY OPPOSING 178 GOP NAMES IN A ROW FOLLOWED BY ALL HE DEMOCRATS 200+ NAMES IN A ROW.

And do you really think it is wise that we point out exactly how screwed, how surrounded, and how dominant the illegal alien amnesty backers are right now numerically in Congress when we have our work cut out for us getting people to stay engaged as Trump folds like a cheap suit?

Please try to familiarize yourself with ALIPAC's operations and standard practices before hurling criticisms at us when we take the monumental and incredibly difficult task of breaking the bad news to America that Trump lied on his most important issues.

William Gheen
President of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
www.alipac.us

I'm not looking for references. I'm looking for a clearer public political decision, an announcement of affirmation to go with the denouncement of a man who is doing more from the president's office against illegal immigration than anyone has ever done since before Reagan, and certainly more than Reagan.

We have yet to see that Trump's moves on DACA are anything as bad as the blanket amnesty that Reagan gave to illegal immigrants. And the war on DACA is yet to come. Not now. This kind of move might have made sense at the end of June after DACA expires and Trump having done nothing.

That would be an amnesty for illegal immigrants and well deserving of a removing of endorsement.

At the end of June, if Trump does nothing against DACA, then I'm with ALIPAC in dumping Trump, but in no other way, certainly not endorsing Cruz, Rubio or McCain.

If ALIPAC is dumping Trump now, then who does it see for president in 2020?