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    Re: Mr Tom Hayden

    I posted this on his TPM article (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/20 ... in_tucson/ )

    "Isn't this the very same Tom Hayden who espoused Communistic ideals and was a card- carrying member of the SDS?
    Consider the source folks.
    This dweeb is a LOSER, ANTI-AMERICAN and has horrible taste in women (re: marriage to Jane Fonda).
    Ol' Tom probably won't be happy until ONLY SDS members and Black Panthers tote guns as opposed to the lawful carry for non- felons as it is in Arizona.

    One more point (before the "uber-lib'" Easterners and Californians pop a blood vessel), I agree that mentally- unstable individuals should be prohibited from firearm purchases and daily / periodic carry of firearms.

    BTW, I am also an OIF Combat Vet AND a PROUD ARIZONAN.
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    (Heck, they even have a GREAT picture of "moi" next to my post- how considerate of them!)

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    Let's be careful with cause and effect in Tucson

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    Clearly, the sheriff's words on the illegal alien situation were uncalled for and highly unprofessional. Not a time to complain about your workload. If our immigration laws were enforced, he would not have to complain. Laws are written for a reason and when they are bent and twisted to accomodate special interests, things unravel.

    Madmen and guns - if you need a presecription from a doctor to purchase medication, then you should need a prescription from a health official stating you are capable of the responsibility involved in possessing one.
    A new law should be drawn up, named after Christina Green, to ensure this never happens again. Let's get real! Too many guns, too easy to acquire. Guns and madmen are a recipe for disaster. If Loughner's classmates were afraid of him and his teacher uneasy, getting rid of him was their solution because there is no other solution in place.

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    1st spokesperson on news of Tucson shootings

    Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, Pima County Arizona's comment spread like wildfire. My Democrat friends repeated his comments in many ways via Keith Olberman and other sites. The verbal attacks are constant and often against conservatives, tea party, and conservatives trying to stop invasion by illegal aliens.

    Sat, Jan 8 comments with snipet version added at end “@KeithOlbermann: Dupnik "Arizona has become the mecca of prejudice and bigotry."â€

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    http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Georg ... /id/382403

    Blaming the Right for the Giffords Attack Is Pure McCarthyism
    Monday, 10 Jan 2011 01:40 PM Article Font Size
    By George Will

    It would be merciful if, when tragedies such as Tucson's occur, there were a moratorium on sociology. But respites from half-baked explanations, often serving political opportunism, are impossible because of a timeless human craving and a characteristic of many modern minds.

    The craving is for banishing randomness and the inexplicable from human experience. Time was, the gods were useful. What is thunder? The gods are angry. Polytheism was explanatory. People postulated causations.

    And still do. Hence: The Tucson shooter was (pick your verb) provoked, triggered, unhinged by today's (pick your noun) rhetoric, vitriol, extremism, "climate of hate."

    Demystification of the world opened the way for real science, including the social sciences. And for a modern characteristic. And for charlatans.

    A characteristic of many contemporary minds is susceptibility to the superstition that all behavior can be traced to some diagnosable frame of mind that is a product of promptings from the social environment. From which flows a political doctrine: Given clever social engineering, society, and people, can be perfected. This supposedly is the path to progress. It actually is the crux of progressivism. And it is why there is a reflex to blame conservatives first.

    Instead, imagine a continuum from the rampages at Columbine and Virginia Tech — the results of individuals' insanities — to the assassinations of Lincoln and the Kennedy brothers, which were clearly connected to the politics of John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Sirhan Sirhan, respectively. The two other presidential assassinations also had political colorations.

    On July 2, 1881, after four months in office, President James Garfield, who had survived the Civil War battles of Shiloh and Chickamauga, needed a vacation. He was vexed by warring Republican factions — the Stalwarts, who waved the bloody shirt of Civil War memories, and the Half-Breeds, who stressed the emerging issues of industrialization.

    Walking to Washington's Union Station to catch a train, Garfield by chance encountered a disappointed job-seeker. Charles Guiteau drew a pistol, fired two shots and shouted "I am a Stalwart and Arthur will be president!" On Sept. 19, Garfield died, making Vice President Chester Arthur president. Guiteau was executed, not explained.

    On Sept. 6, 1901, President William McKinley, who had survived the battle of Antietam, was shaking hands at a Buffalo exposition when Leon Czolgosz approached, a handkerchief wrapped around his right hand, concealing a gun. Czolgosz, an anarchist, fired two shots. Czolgosz ("I killed the president because he was the enemy of the good people — the good working people. I am not sorry for my crime.") was executed, not explained.

    Now we have explainers. They came into vogue with the murder of President Kennedy. They explained why the "real" culprit was not a self-described Marxist who had moved to Moscow, then returned to support Castro. No, the culprit was a "climate of hate" in conservative Dallas, the "paranoid style" of American (conservative) politics, or some other national sickness resulting from insufficient liberalism.

    Last year, New York Times columnist Charles Blow explained that "the optics must be irritating" to conservatives: Barack Obama is black, Nancy Pelosi is female, Rep. Barney Frank is gay, Rep. Anthony Weiner (an unimportant Democrat, listed to serve Blow's purposes) is Jewish. "It's enough," Blow said, "to make a good old boy go crazy." The Times, which after the Tucson shooting said "many on the right" are guilty of "demonizing" people and of exploiting "arguments of division," apparently was comfortable with Blow's insinuation that conservatives are misogynistic, homophobic, racist anti-Semites.

    On Sunday, the Times explained Tucson: "It is facile and mistaken to attribute this particular madman's act directly to Republicans or tea party members. But . . . " The "directly" is priceless.

    Three days before Tucson, Howard Dean explained that the tea party movement is "the last gasp of the generation that has trouble with diversity." Rising to the challenge of lowering his reputation and the tone of public discourse, Dean smeared tea partyers as racists: They oppose Obama's agenda, Obama is African-American, ergo . . .

    Let us hope that Dean is the last gasp of the generation of liberals whose default position in any argument is to indict opponents as racists. This McCarthyism of the left — devoid of intellectual content, unsupported by data — is a mental tic, not an idea but a tactic for avoiding engagement with ideas. It expresses limitless contempt for the American people, who have reciprocated by reducing liberalism to its current characteristics of electoral weakness and bad sociology.


    George Will's e-mail address is georgewill@washpost.com.


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    What a bunch of garbage from Charles Blow
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    imblest: see if you can find this article:

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    Laura Koscki Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda
    A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s pri...
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    I have said for the last few years that the main threat to america was from within our country. Most politicians will say and do anything to stay in office forward their ability to corrupt america. Power and greed is main reason most run for elected office.

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    Re: Defamation Nation: Political Police and Witch Hunts

    One of the big ways the left, progressives, Communists and socialist believe, oh I almost forgot the obama organisation believe in is never let a disaster go to waste. Watch out all they needed was something, anything as a reason to to inflict more control over us that means we have fewer rights, All I can say watch the administration use this incident for there purpose. Because it will be no good for use. [/quote]

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominke
    I have said for the last few years that the main threat to america was from within our country. Most politicians will say and do anything to stay in office forward their ability to corrupt america. Power and greed is main reason most run for elected office.
    You have a valid point and welcome to ALIPAC
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