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    Re: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

    If we try to deny illegals services the ACLU and liberal courts will fight it every step of the way.

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    We need to deny the ACLU taxpayer money. Let them get their funds from LaRaza and all the other Latino groups.

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    McCain and our country

    Bush has let the true Americans down. I voted and worked his last time around and had I really known of his intentions I would have worked against him.
    People knew that McCain had worked with Kennedy and Feinstine[sp] and I was against him even then.
    I won't stay home from voting even if I have to do a write-in. I may not be able to do much but at least I'll have the satisfaction that I did what I could
    I'm so frustrated that the average citizen has no forum in which to fight the system. We have to take what the fat cats send down to us.
    Had I had the resources I'd take to the streets and airways to fight this.
    People, get ready for what was set in motion a long time ago and kept secret from the citizens, Mexico, Canada and the U.S. Also keep your eyes on the "Land and Sea Treaty" they aren't done with that either.
    God will only let us go so far and He has given us plenty of time to straighten up.

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    Re: McCain and our country

    Don't worry, it's not over yet. I've been emailing and called Romney's campaign and was told they've gotten lots of calls about McCain/Hernandez.

    I've also emailed the RNC chairman identifying myself as an independant voter concerned with the illegal immigration problem, here's the email:

    Mr. Chairman,

    In the past I've had little interest in politics. Recently, however, I've had no other choice than to become involved and informed as I could no longer stand by and watch as our government shown no willingness to deal with the problem that illegal immigration has become.

    If it has not already been brought to your attention, you should be aware that Sen. McCain has a well known proponent of illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal immigrants working for his campaign. The senator claims to have heard the voice of the people on this issue, and claims to be the best choice to keep our nation secure. The fact that Mr. Hernandez is working for Sen. McCain calls the senator's integrity into question on this and all other matters. Personally, I do not believe that I can trust the Senator to do anything to stop the illegal immigration problem. If Sen. McCain does not consider the open border situation we currently have to be a security threat, as demonstrated by his actions, he is obviously not as qualified to keep our nation secure as he would like people to believe.

    Sincerely,
    =========================

    Perhaps if the RNC hears from other independant voters they are hoping to attract if McCain gets the nomination, it may do some good for the cause.


    Quote Originally Posted by nannie
    Bush has let the true Americans down. I voted and worked his last time around and had I really known of his intentions I would have worked against him.
    People knew that McCain had worked with Kennedy and Feinstine[sp] and I was against him even then.
    I won't stay home from voting even if I have to do a write-in. I may not be able to do much but at least I'll have the satisfaction that I did what I could
    I'm so frustrated that the average citizen has no forum in which to fight the system. We have to take what the fat cats send down to us.
    Had I had the resources I'd take to the streets and airways to fight this.
    People, get ready for what was set in motion a long time ago and kept secret from the citizens, Mexico, Canada and the U.S. Also keep your eyes on the "Land and Sea Treaty" they aren't done with that either.
    God will only let us go so far and He has given us plenty of time to straighten up.

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    McCain is "sleeping with the enemy". Juan Hernandez is the slimiest creature I have witnessed that was not a character in a movie. Hernandez is not good for our country and anyone considering a vote for McCain should be aware of who he has at his side.

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    McCain has Juan Hernandez on his campaign working for "Latino Outreach." This is the same man who supports LaRaza & says the SW is a Region. He fails to recognize the US States in this "Region." I have looked at much of the rhetoric regarding this issue. I am now convinced that our leadership in both parties want this new underclass to fill jobs, once held by organized labor. By out--sourcing jobs to countries who notoriously pay "sweatshop" wages, American labor & the unions to which they belong will disappear. Now, this new uneducated, unskilled & mostly illiterate underclass will fill those once out-sourced jobs. For a time they will be paid minimum wage. There will be no "collective bargaining", because there will be no org. to represent them. Perhaps, once they realize they need to get an education & start helping themselves, the tables will turn. In reality, most of them have no interest in assimilating & becoming part of this country. The US will become another country with a poor, uneducated, unskilled majority! The NAU will become a fact. The country we once knew will be gone. What do we say to all those brave men & women who are fighting & dying in the Middle East? Is this the America they are fighting for???

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    McCain

    I agree that our "Politicans" are working for the NAU and I'm angry that this is happening. It seems as though the average citizen really have no say. [Does this remind you of the Calvery and Indians?]
    Somehow they think that "they" will have more power after this happens--Boy, they are going to yell like mashed cats when "they" find out that they are just the pawns used by others.
    Prayer is all that we have left and then I think it's just a prayer for us to be able to endure.
    I wonder "who" sent down the word that they wanted McCain to win the peimaries. George Sorrous where are you?

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    Re: [color=darkred][b]Aliterate posters[/b][/color]

    Quote Originally Posted by recce1
    Prof. Hernandez is a natural born US citizen so he can’t be stripped of his citizenship or deported, at least not according to the Constitution which some of you claim to support.
    Maybe you should check Title 8, United States Code,
    [note that I'm not saying Hernandez has performed any of these acts, only that it is possible for a natural born citizen to renounce their citizenship or lose it.]

    § 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized
    citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions
    (a) A person who is a national of the United
    States whether by birth or naturalization, shall
    lose his nationality by voluntarily performing
    any of the following acts with the intention of
    relinquishing United States nationality—
    (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign
    state upon his own application or upon an application
    filed by a duly authorized agent,
    after having attained the age of eighteen
    years; or
    (2) taking an oath or making an affirmation
    or other formal declaration of allegiance to a
    foreign state or a political subdivision thereof,
    after having attained the age of eighteen
    years; or
    (3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces
    of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are
    engaged in hostilities against the United
    States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned
    or non-commissioned officer; or
    (4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing
    the duties of any office, post, or employment
    under the government of a foreign state or a
    political subdivision thereof, after attaining
    the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires
    the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting,
    serving in, or performing the duties of
    any office, post, or employment under the government
    of a foreign state or a political subdivision
    thereof, after attaining the age of
    eighteen years for which office, post, or employment
    an oath, affirmation, or declaration
    of allegiance is required; or
    (5) making a formal renunciation of nationality
    before a diplomatic or consular officer of
    the United States in a foreign state, in such
    form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of
    State; or
    (6) making in the United States a formal
    written renunciation of nationality in such
    form as may be prescribed by, and before such
    officer as may be designated by, the Attorney
    General, whenever the United States shall be
    in a state of war and the Attorney General
    shall approve such renunciation as not contrary
    to the interests of national defense; or
    (7) committing any act of treason against, or
    attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing
    arms against, the United States, violating or
    conspiring to violate any of the provisions of
    section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing
    any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18,
    or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging
    in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to
    destroy by force the Government of the United
    States, or to levy war against them, if and
    when he is convicted thereof by a court martial
    or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
    (b) Whenever the loss of United States nationality
    is put in issue in any action or proceeding
    commenced on or after September 26, 1961 under,
    or by virtue of, the provisions of this chapter or
    any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person
    or party claiming that such loss occurred, to
    establish such claim by a preponderance of the
    § 1481 TITLE 8—ALIENS AND NATIONALITY Page 436
    evidence. Any person who commits or performs,
    or who has committed or performed, any act of
    expatriation under the provisions of this chapter
    or any other Act shall be presumed to have done
    so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted
    upon a showing, by a preponderance of
    the evidence, that the act or acts committed or
    performed were not done voluntarily.
    Left wing, Right wing, same turkey.
    Join the Constitution Party and let's go bird hunting.

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    Re: [color=darkred][b]Aliterate posters[/b][/color]

    Quote Originally Posted by "recce1[u
    Cplob[/u], unfortunately 1st offense violation of our borders is only a civil violation, not a criminal one. The 2nd illegal border crossing is a criminal offense. In true comprehensive reform a 1st violation should be a criminal offense with automatic deportation and the 2nd should have long term imprisonment and then deportation.
    I keep seeing this in various places, and I beg to differ.
    From: Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language, Second College Edition, 1976

    crime, n.: an act committed in violation of a law prohibiting it, or omitted in violation of a law ordering it, specif., any felony or misdemeanor except a petty violation of a local ordinance; crimes are variously punishable by death, imprisonment, or the imposition of certain fines or restrictions.

    Now, unless you can justify calling a Federal Law a 'local ordinance' I don't see how you can say that a foreign citizen who crosses the US border in violation of our immigration laws has not committed a crime. Even a misdemeanor violation of a law is a crime. [I have six other dictionary references that all say the same thing.]

    You are correct that a second entry is a felony. It doesn't make much difference, Bush and McCain will not enforce it either way.

    I think I'll register with the Constitution Party. If a large enough number of Conservatives follow me there we can cut the legs out from under the other so-called Republicans... or just replace them. It won't cost you anything but a few minutes time to look it over: http://constitutionparty.com/
    Left wing, Right wing, same turkey.
    Join the Constitution Party and let's go bird hunting.

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    Jessica Echard is wonderful; and then the Devil has arrived.

    What a Mexican? Dr, Juan Hernandez - This is what we get with dual citizenship. Amnesty....Hate It.

    Last two omitted....Send this traitor committing treason to Mexico.
    Politics of Illegal Immigration - Census, E-Verify, and I9s: http://tinyurl.com/3ru8w5

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