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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I have read the entire legislation numerous times. You don't understand the FairTax as it relates to itself or the Constitution. Sorry to cut this short, but I'm watching Trump now on O'Reilly. Bye!
    Nice pivot, especially when the conversation was getting interesting. You made some excellent points, Johnwk. I'm with you, the so-called fairtax is not fair at all.

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    Arguing over virtues or lack thereof of the Fair Tax is arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin at this point my fellow ALIPACers.
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    Johnwk wrote:

    The alleged "fairtax" has no provision to forbid Congress from laying and collecting taxes calculated from profits and gains, as was upheld by the Supreme Court in Flint vs Stone Tracy, a decision made prior to the adoption of the 16th Amendment.
    The FairTax Act repeals all income based taxes, income taxes collected from profits, gains, net income, gross income, adjusted gross income, dividends, interest, payrolls, gifts, estates, capital gains, etc., etc., etc. The FairTax Act repeals the entirety of the revenue act pertaining to the income tax.

    The FairTax legislation doesn't repeal the 16th Amendment. There will be a second legislation to propose the repeal of the 16th Amendment that would then be circulated to the States. Meanwhile, the FairTax is implemented and the problems of the federal income tax removed from our society and its burdens lifted from our people and businesses. No one knows whether the States would approve the repeal of the 16th Amendment, one would think so, but you don't know. There are many "blue" states that like the tyranny of the income tax, that don't care about the consequences of the income tax on our people and economy, so it would take a state by state effort and we need 3/4 of the states to achieve that, 75% of 50 which is 38 states. Most of US believe that once the FairTax is implemented while the Constitutional Amendment is circulating that people will like the FairTax so much that even "blue" states will approve it.

    There's nothing more that Congress can do in that regard. "Blue" states will never repeal the 16th Amendment before there is a replacement of the income tax like the FairTax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post
    Arguing over virtues or lack thereof of the Fair Tax is arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin at this point my fellow ALIPACers.
    I agree with you completely. Unfortunately, the alleged "fairtax" seems to be squeezed into topics in which it has no relevance, especially in a subject concerning Hillary Clinton's agenda.

    What is important at this point in time is:

    Do we want to continue importing the poverty stricken populations of other countries into our country which drives down earned wages for American citizens and creates unemployment [Hillary’s plan], or do we want to secure our borders and regulate immigration into America in a manner which promotes the best interests of American citizens [Trump’s plan]?

    Do we want to increase the flow of Syrian “refugees” into America by 550 percent when vetting them is problematic at this point in time [Hillary’s plan], or do we temporarily halt immigration from war torn Islamic controlled countries until we can figure out a way to more effectively vet these “refugees” [Trump’s plan]?

    Do we want to continue making destructive trade deals such as the NAFTA which promote the interests of international corporate giants who have no allegiance to America or any nation and are not in America’s best interests [Hillary’s plan], or do we want to negotiate trade deals which promote an America first trade policy and are in the best interests of America’s labor force [Trump’s plan]?

    Do we want to continue with Obama’s federal takeover of our nation’s health-care delivery system [Hillary Clinton’s plan], or do we want to repeal and replace Obama / Hillary care with a free market competitive system in which people will be able to exercise their unalienable right to choose their doctors and health insurance needs [Trump’s plan]?

    Do we want two or three more Justices put on our Supreme Court who will engage in judicial tyranny and advance their personal views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice as the Supreme Law of the land [Hillary’s plan], or do we want judges and Justices appointed who will be faithful to their oath of office and support and defend the text and documented “legislative intent” of our Constitution [Trump’s plan]?


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