Thread: 1.3 million illegals removed in 1954 why not now?

Well Good morning 2nd I see your up and at 'em this a.m.

This is the post I wanted you to check because of the name of the operation and any issues that name might cause for the forum in general. Apparently it didn't or you would have pm'd me.

X......I checked it at 1am, lol.

Kudos to YOU........you realize that old Grandpa P. was one of the ringleaders.

BTW, not just bush....they're all following orders/the plan. It's THE PLAN. Tweaked and Tuned over the decades and adjusted according to the stubborness of the American people......but still THE PLAN.

Food for thought....the real turning point in this entire process was during Vietnam. Long/short are these simple facts: Know that what I'm writing here is not an opinion on whether or not the VN conflict was right or wrong. that isn't the issue for this purpose.

the soviet union was controlling the North vietnamese. they supplied them, encouraged them, advised them and also INTERROGATED OUR POWS along with Cuba/castro. {castro being their puppet} Remember this: interrogated our pows--very important!

The Soviet Union/communists new the only way to bring the USA down was from within as they'd never win on the battle field. They'd been infiltrating our government for decades {Stalin}

side note: we did NOT lose the VN war. On the contrary they were beaten and just about ready to capitulate...it was almost a done deal. This is something that has been distorted in the new, re:written American history. But the soviets were a little smarter in espionage and their range of espionage. they were masters of propaganda.

The soviets began to pour tons of money into forming and growing anti-war groups. Many little groups of which several emerged larger and stronger. There were priests, ministers, military, professors being used by the soviets for this purpose....leading these groups. They increased dumping their money and, sadly, were able to pull Americans to them to work these groups. college profs encouraged the kids to pour their guts into the anti war groups. {remember that they were able to TURN Americans to them--very important}

EXAMPLE: Just as the Mex May 1 marches were funded & coordinated by communist groups today, it was so back then. As a matter of fact....there are old leaders from then leading some of these groups today in the background. IT'S THE SAME METHOD being used. Nothing has changed in their play book.

Well, these anti war kids finished their education, were indoctrinated in the communist/socialist idiology and began flooding our Universities and schools as well as government and big bus. Their goal was to take the next 2 generations and mold them in their image. We are now seeing the fruits of their labor ....in ONE GENERATION.

JOB 1/2 DONE........AMERICANS are now brainwashed into One World Globalism without borders

FACT: bill klinton was the only known American allowed behind the Iron Curtain in Moscow during the 60's while at Oxford! {can't remember the exact date but do have it somewhere} On his way back to Merry old England he stopped off at a communist conference in either Switzerland or Sweden. This was Unprecedented

FACT: hillary klinton wrote papers extolling communism and has never turned back.

FACT: john kerry also attended the communist conference. I do not remember if it was the same one that klinton attended but it was held in the same place. He went while still in uniform {meaning in the military}
which was against the law and only discovered a short time before the election.

FACT: john mccain was a very bad pilot. 2 or 3 crashes during training which would have gotten anyone else shit canned. But, since his father was an Admiral, he was maintained. McCain, when shot down was very badly injured. Some pilots have made statements over the years that he should never have been allowed in the air and didn't like flying with him.
Well, he was captured and {this is important} only spent 8 months in the population. No one knows if he was every in "solitary!" When removed from the population, according to his own testimony, he was given excellent medical treatment. He was interrogated by the cubans & soviets for the most part, not the NVN. He was the prize!

For the record, those that were so badly abused and broke, who the hell is anyone to judge? These men were put through hell and horrors most of us couldn't ever conceive.

HOWEVER, not quite so with mccain. He had special treatment while his brothers were beaten, starved and tortured and died refusing to give in. Horrible things. But mccain had a bed and clean sheets, food and was made a bit more comfortable......they had the PRIZE.....the Admiral's son.

While our POWs were being killed, mccain "broke" and began making radio announcements against the US and the war. OK.......some did but they were brutilized beyond the point. McCain was not brutilized.

One would be hard pressed to find a POW who would stand beside mccain. Rarely will we hear them say anything bad, however, they won't say anything at all. Isn't is strange that his brothers, the POWs won't come forward and stand beside him?

What I do know with some certainty, is that if he wins the nomination, he will then finally have to face some of the POWs that have been silent for all these years.

FINAL FACT: it was the soviet backed anti-war propaganda, insanity that forced Nixon to finally pull back just as we had won the last main battle and pretty much put the vn out of business---they were on their last legs and the soviets couldn't keep up with us. One of the reasons was johnfnkerry and his secret meetings with madam binh in Paris. That in itself is a story that would take pages. Suffice it to say that Americans who were supporting the soviet union were instrumental in our acceptance of the farce "peace agreement" w/NVN.

OK.......tons more but that's enough for now

Bush certainly is responsible.

If the problem we are addressing is the illegal alien invasion and the remedy we seek is enforcement of existing laws and the only person who can give orders to do that is President Bush then who is at fault if existing laws are not being enforced?

A)President Bush
B)Captain James T. Kirk of the starship Enterprise
C)Anyone who drives a SUV
D)The entire audience of the last Super Bowl

Hint: The answer is A) President Bush

Answer:A) President Bush

Bush certainly is responsible.

If the problem we are addressing is the illegal alien invasion and the remedy we seek is enforcement of existing laws and the only person who can give orders to do that is President Bush then who is at fault if existing laws are not being enforced?

That's a fact. No doubt. No argument. He is the 'enforcer' as well as the 'decider'.

But ask yourself this. If you were a congressperson and you loved this country. You realized what was happening to it. Would you just sit back on your thumb and say, "Well the President won't do anything. I am just a powerless little congressperson. I only do what he says."

Or would you, as a person with love for this country and integrity go to battle with this President and demand something be done.

I would go on every talk show that would have me - big little, or small wattage. I would write op-ed pieces. I would go on radio. I would speak at colleges. I would have town hall meetings. I would stand in front of that empty house and talk for hours to the camera (as Tancredo has done). I would write letters to my consitutents. We are doing that and we don't have nearly as good a pulpit to preach from as do those people in congress.

Why aren't governors doing it also. They have a lot of power to get things done about this - but they aren't. Instead they are thwarting the will of the people when they do get laws passed.

What about mayors or council persons. They are voting to use taxpayer dollars to build the illegals nice places to sit while they wait to work. They demand their policemen do nothing to illegals.

If the congresspeople, the states, the cities were doing what they should - things could change.

No, don't take any heat off the president - but don't presume everyone else in Washington, or in local government is helpless.

I am so tired of hearing the Democrats can't do anything because they are not the majority. They are greed and corrupt beings.

If that is the case, when a party looses the majority - they get to sit at home and draw no pay for that time.

I am so tired of hearing that Republicans are doing this because they are having their arms twisted. They are doing this because they have lost what souls they had - because they are greedy and corrupt beings.

This thing is bigger than this President or any political party. To continue to try to play party politics is suicidal.

It has nothing to do with "following bushes orders" and EVERYTHING to do with following the CFR plan. That's where their future bread and butter lay.

Many of the senators and congressmen are members of CFR or wanting to belong to the gang that's going to control the world.

RE:I would go on every talk show that would have me - big little, or small wattage. I would write op-ed pieces. I would go on radio. I would speak at colleges. I would have town hall meetings. I would stand in front of that empty house and talk for hours to the camera (as Tancredo has done). I would write letters to my consitutents. We are doing that and we don't have nearly as good a pulpit to preach from as do those people in congress.


There is certainly no shortge of sound bite warriors. But what can a congressman do beyond that.

A) Call for congressional oversight of the ICE and BCBP. Congress contols funding and while they can't force them to enforce the law they can say if you are not going to do it we are not going to pay you for something that you are not doing.

B) Impeach the President

C) Declare war on the invading nation( this won't happen but it is within their power)

Everything you mentioned has no teeth.

There is certainly no shortge of sound bite warriors. But what can a congressman do beyond that.

For the last 2 months.

I am talking about for as long as this President has been in office and the same for the previous.

You bet it would have teeth.

Why do you think anything is even being discussed today?

Because the Minutemen brought it to the forefront and someone like Lou Dobbs had the courage to take up the cause.

If the people had been informed and had the lawmakers from Washington talking about it, there would have been much more pressure put on congress a long time ago.

It has been a non-issue for the politicians and news media for a very long time.

Of course, it would make a difference of people stood up and spoke out. If congress was on the side of the people and said, 'This is what is happening and it is wrong and we need you to help us do something'.

No one except Tancredo has been doing this.

The 'sound bite warriors' have only been out there for a very short time. They are out there because pressure is being put on them. Imagine what we could have done 10 years ago with just a little help from a few politicians and one man like Lou Dobbs in the media.

Many of them have been agreeing with the Pro illegal majority in congress. Oh, they give the 'well we need to do something, but all those poor hardworking people need a yada, yada, yada.'

Helpless?? Then send them home. Why are we paying their salary? Why are we giving them all the cushy perks? Why are they getting great retirements and healthcare (while millions of Americans have none)?

They could have gotten together and passed some referendums, some censor on the President. They could have passed some strict laws and overridden his veto.

Helpless --- give me a break.