Thread: 12 Million??

Why do they keep saying 12 million illegals, when we know it's more like 20 million??

The American people should know the truth!

Welcome Cousinsal!
The truth of the matter is, we simply don't know how many illegals we have. Hearing these numbers tells us that they really don't have a clue. I would tend to believe it is around or above the 20 million mark.

The U.S. Census 2000 estimated 9 million
Senator John McCain estimated 4 million in 2002
Source: http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/ar ... feb10.html
U.S. Border Patrol fiscal 2004 apprehended 1.1 million.
U.S. Border Patrol fiscal 2005 apprehended 1.2 million.
U.S.B.P. 'catch rate' is estimated to be 20%, meaning 4.4 million in 2004, and 4.8 million in 2005.
Assuming these 3 years to be 'average', 4.4 million times 6 years since Census equals 26.4 million, added to the pre-existing 9 million equals 35 million here now. Then you can add on the 4-5 million visa overstays.

It is interesting to note that in 1986, it was estimated that 1.2 million illegal aliens would qualify for THAT amnesty. The actual total was 3.5 million. Assuming a comparable miscalculation today, 40 million is a realistic number.

If you pay careful attention to what they say......"we have 12 million undocumented WORKERS"........certainly different than how many people are here illegally. You know how they color the unemployment rate so this is their way to tone down the shock of what the actual REAL count of illegals are. Heck....they estimate 5 million anchor babies and that's probably only the ones in school. When it comes to government I never trust their ability with numbers. Inflation is fine as long as you don't count housing, food and gas. Gee then.....what do you count?

I am a total moran with Math and I have enough basic skills to look around and see the numbers don't mesh. Doesn't take a brain child.

PineStrawGuys wrote:

The U.S. Census 2000 estimated 9 million
Senator John McCain estimated 4 million in 2002
Source: http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/ar ... feb10.html
U.S. Border Patrol fiscal 2004 apprehended 1.1 million.
U.S. Border Patrol fiscal 2005 apprehended 1.2 million.
U.S.B.P. 'catch rate' is estimated to be 20%, meaning 4.4 million in 2004, and 4.8 million in 2005.
Assuming these 3 years to be 'average', 4.4 million times 6 years since Census equals 26.4 million, added to the pre-existing 9 million equals 35 million here now. Then you can add on the 4-5 million visa overstays.

Makes complete sense to me! One things for sure, your number is certainly a lot closer to accurate than the number our federal government and mainstream media keeps shoving down our throats.

The government can't do anything, without lying anymore.

I think if they started telling the truth now it would just confuse us.

The 86 amnesty they said was for about a 1,000,000. After it passed the 1,000,000 turned into 3,000,000.

Now they are pushing 12,000,000. Translated into the language of, "We the People" , that would come out to 36,000,000.

I figure a conservative number is about 27,000,000.



P.S. 27,000,000 Illegal Invaders already here looting our hospitals and social services and the employers can't find enough of them to work for them. Maybe the answer isn't more!


Mother nature gave us many of our traits but she lets us pick our own teeth.

The thing is that should worry us is that Mexico is one of the most out of control governments on earth. That includes many of African nations. They came with in one percent of electing a commie to office down there...Really we lossed a good part of our good American senators by less then 50 thousand votes in november 2006. 20-30 million Mexicans that vote far left and commie is not a good thing. We will likely be going down the tubes.

Matthewcloseborders wrote:

The thing is that should worry us is that Mexico is one of the most out of control governments on earth. That includes many of African nations. They came with in one percent of electing a commie to office down there...Really we lossed a good part of our good American senators by less then 50 thousand votes in november 2006. 20-30 million Mexicans that vote far left and commie is not a good thing. We will likely be going down the tubes.

Hasn't it been said that people are a product of their environment?

StokeyBob wrote:

I think if they started telling the truth now it would just confuse us.

They would have to overstay their remaining time in office in order to correct every lie they`ve told.