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    Alia_of_the_knife is banned for the following reasons

    Since Alia of the Knife has exhibited symptoms of being a troll for the other team, we feel it is important that we list the reasons for her ban from ALIPAC in the open.

    Alia of the Knife continually made statements indicating that we at ALIPAC do not support enforcement on employers enough although this was proven incorrect to her again and again.

    This is a false ploy of the left to try and say that Conservatives are not willing to punish employers because our main concern is the race of the illegals.

    Alia of the Knife also continued to make race baiting statements again and again despite multiple warning from Moderators.

    She would veil her aspersions on her supporters by pretending to be a part of our movement using terms like "We"

    The statements that were made were made by Alia of the Knife and NOT ALIPAC board users.

    Alia of The Knife was using the terms "We" and "Our" to make these statements as a subtle way of calling ALIPAC supporters racist or racially motivated. More accurate descriptions would be "I" and "My" since Alia was making statements others had not made on our boards.

    Here are the examples from her posts

    This is what happens when overly-impassioned individuals conflate a simple labor regulation issue with generalized racial hysteria. Again, the movement shoots itself in the foot. Is it too simple to ask that the rule of law be applied? People, keep your ideas of racial superiority at home. It will not win the political day.
    We should also kick out all students with Hispanic-sounding names from public elementary schools. This way they will find it more difficult to assimilate into this country and be forced somewhat to "emigrate" back to their country of origin when they are fully grown.
    simply makes our side look like a bunch of racist provocateurs.
    Because when people poke holes in these assertions it makes us look like jokers.
    Israel also sends tanks into Palestinian cities to demolition buildings used as smuggling points and bombing. Are we ready to do the same to Mexican illegals and Mexican territory?
    We can rightfully hate Mexicans for doing this to our country as much as we want, but it will truly not do us a shred of good if we are not willing to enforce the basic rule of law against malfeance perpetrated by legal U.S. citizens in this country.
    Alia of the Knife is banned from ALIPAC for multiple violations of our rules.

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    I have also seen the following kinds of quotes when debating the offshoring of jobs to India on discussion groups related to that topic. It is amazing how much similarities there are between the illegal alien debate and the job loss due to offshoring debate. Both arguments bring out "global socialists" who plant themselves on discussion groups and argue that is inhumane for Americans to protect themselves from foreigners taking jobs away. Their arguments, using crude 'mind-control' techniques always seem so wooden and propagandistic:

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    Israel also sends tanks into Palestinian cities to demolition buildings used as smuggling points and bombing. Are we ready to do the same to Mexican illegals and Mexican territory?

    [what is really says: Hate Israel. Hate Americans who oppose illegal immigration]


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    We can rightfully hate Mexicans for doing this to our country as much as we want, but it will truly not do us a shred of good if we are not willing to enforce the basic rule of law against malfeance perpetrated by legal U.S. citizens in this country.

    [what is really says: Mexicans are good, Americans are bad...]

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    Thanks millere,

    We certainly do not need to be wasting our time with trolls when we need everyone we have focused on the campaigns each day!

    12 days to go.

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    Thanks W!

    I'll give um credit. They keep trying.

    "Racist provocateur"
    It sounds so highbrow!
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    These kind of trolls are all over the internet. There is one in craiglist in the politics forums. I couldn't go there anymore because he flagged all my posts.

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    A breath of fresh air

    Thank you I know that you all gave her an opportunity to prove herself on these boards and you could not be more fair with everyone here.I just feel that groups like La Raza are sending around people like this to try to hurt groups that are against them.W does not need anything at this critical time to divert his focus.Compliments to everyone here for doing a good job.
    Thomas Jefferson said: When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty !

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    Re: A breath of fresh air

    Quote Originally Posted by DEEDEE
    Thank you I know that you all gave her an opportunity to prove herself on these boards and you could not be more fair with everyone here.I just feel that groups like La Raza are sending around people like this to try to hurt groups that are against them.W does not need anything at this critical time to divert his focus.Compliments to everyone here for doing a good job.
    Deedee,

    You are so correct. We've had lots of trolls, and it does get entertaining. What kills me is they try and justify their arguments by playing the race card, because there's no other way they can "throw a wrench in the works"
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Hate has NO place in the fight against illegal aliens. Hispanic Americans have been a very important part of our country's history. Our fight is for the protection of American sovereignty, national security and the protection of the American culture.
    D.W.

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    Knew I smelled troll!! Felt it from the beginning. Somehow it seems to me that it has a lot to do with their avatars.

    However with all the statements she made it was a given as she was a troll or a severely confused racist.
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    AmericanElizabeth Wrote:

    Somehow it seems to me that it has a lot to do with their avatars.
    I agree with that, it sure was an I catcher.
    We need to watch for simular statements. She can easily return incognito.
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