Thread: ALL IMMIGRANTS WELCOME

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All Immigrants Welcome

Dear Editor:

I was just reading the WAKE UP AMERICA letter about illegal immigrants. I'm sure the writer feels justified in her comments and maybe she has been directly impacted by an illegal. But, immigrants helped build this nation and all have faced the same discrimination as the Hispanic's are now receiving.

The Polish, the Irish, the Vietnamese, the Puerto Ricans, the Chinese and the Cubans, just to name a few nationalities, who took jobs no one else wanted and slaved their way to acceptability in this country with many dying along the way as a result of the hazardous working conditions they were subjected to.

The fact is they are not going away. They are here to stay. So let's accept those facts and work toward a solution agreeable to everyone. Crime is not anymore indicative of illegals as it is of legals or Americans for that matter. Citizenship doesn't make one a saint nor does a green card.

The logistics of rounding up all the illegals in this country as the writer suggested would be impossible. It's also totally impractical to attempt to do so. An estimated 20 million by many sources, would require a minimum of 60 million American Federal employees to round them up, process them and transport them back to their countries of origin and even then it would require many years to complete the job.

As to the myth, about illegals being a drain on Federal Resources I'd like to attempt to put it to rest, by offering the following study.

Americans believe that undocumented immigrants are exploiting the United States' economy. The widespread belief is that illegal aliens cost more in government services than they contribute to the economy. This belief is undeniably false. A very empirical study of illegals economic impact demonstrates the opposite. Undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services. Moreover, undocumented immigrants contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs. Eighty-five percent of eminent economists surveyed have concluded that undocumented immigrants have had a positive (seventy-four percent) or neutral (eleven percent) impact on the U.S. economy.

Undocumented immigrants, like all U.S. citizens and residents, are required to pay taxes. Despite the historic and strong American opposition to taxation without representation, undocumented immigrants (except in rare and unusual cases) have not enjoyed the right to vote on any local, state or federal tax or other matter for almost eighty years. Nevertheless, each year undocumented immigrants add billions of dollars in sales, excise, property, income and payroll taxes, including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment taxes, to federal, state and local coffers. Hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants go out of their way to file annual federal and state income tax returns.

Yet undocumented immigrants are barred from almost all government benefits, including food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, federal housing programs, Supplemental Security Income, Unemployment Insurance, Social Security, Medicare, and the earned income tax credit (EITC). Generally, the only benefits federally required for undocumented immigrants are emergency medical care, subject to financial and category eligibility, and elementary and secondary public education. Many undocumented immigrants will not even access these few critical government services because of their ever-present fear of government officials and deportation.

Undocumented immigrants living in the United States are subject to the same income tax laws as documented immigrants and U.S. citizens. However, because of their status most unauthorized workers pay a higher effective tax rate than similarly situated documented or U.S. citizens. Yet, these workers and their families use fewer government services than similarly situated documented immigrants or U.S. citizens. Moreover, unauthorized workers have been denied remedies by the U.S. Supreme Court under the National Labor Relations Act and may be challenged to receive protection under wage and hour, anti-discrimination and workers' compensation laws. As a result, undocumented immigrants provide a fiscal windfall and may be the most fiscally beneficial of all immigrants.

Despite their net positive contribution to public coffers, hundreds of thousands of immigrants enter the U.S. each year without documents because of impracticable quota and labor certification requirements. These immigration restrictions combined with the additional tax or tariff on undocumented immigrants are inconsistent with economically efficient immigration policy. Moreover, the high effective tax rate imposed on the poorest undocumented working families relative to their less unfortunate friends and neighbors is inconsistent with fundamental tax policy.

The myth that illegals work for less than legals and Americans, again is just that, a myth. As with all Americans, the illegals are paid according to their worth to a company. Sadly in the majority of the cases they work harder, show up for work on time and follow job instructions better than most Americans on the same jobs.

Like most Americans I don't like this invasion either. But let's all keep the facts straight when we address this problem. The truth is hard for most to accept, but misinformation creates more harm than good. I cite the War in Iraq as one very good example of what misinformation creates.


By JOE THOMPSON - CLEVELAND, TN

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http://www.bradleyweekly.com/letters.cfm?id=179

Stupid Jerk!

Undocumented immigrants, like all U.S. citizens and residents, are required to pay taxes

Taxes are taxes, should they invade our country and be exempt from taxes too? (This is obviously 'sales tax' because most of them are paid their wages in cash!)

Of course the papers would print this type of letter. In the human interests department, Americans don't qualify.

Where are you from?????????
and where have you stuck your head into.....? and just now pulled it out...
Here in Nevada..illegals are getting Welfare....(MY tax money mind you) and the Wefare people have written in the LV Review Journal that it is not their job to ask if they are illegals...they just give them the money.... I worked for a non profit company in So Calif that handled "Cal works and welfare to work" Programs... The illegals even get money for someone to babysit their kids from these programs and they do not work...they SCREAM at you if they do not get their cks on time....I was even called "Studid" because I did not talk to them in Spanish.....I ...and most of my new neighbors have left California because of this and we are finding out that Nevada is no better....very sad...A major Hotel/Casino even wrote in the newspaper that they are PROUD that they hire illegals....very sad... Boycott Las Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where are you from?????????
and where have you stuck your head into.....? and just now pulled it out...

Are we fighting illegal invasion or each other?

I say deport them just because they broke the law.
Everything else is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

Undocumented immigrants, like all U.S. citizens and residents, are required to pay taxes

Taxes are taxes, should they invade our country and be exempt from taxes too? (This is obviously 'sales tax' because most of them are paid their wages in cash!)

Of course the papers would print this type of letter. In the human interests department, Americans don't qualify.

They don't even pay 'sales tax'. They fill out a form for forgeiners (who are exempt from local and state taxes since most don't benefit from the public/community infrastucture those taxes finance) submit their receipts and are reimbursed, while still reaping the bonuses of those same taxes!

Cash for work, refund on sales tax = zero payment into the system while sucking the average law-abiding worker dry. It's a travesty of justice on Americans.

We are all in the same boat and this is happening in every state. Nevada is hit hard because of Casino work. Calfiornia hit hard because of Fienstien and Pelosi. The fact of the matter is that our government is not listening to us. We the people of the United States means nothing to them. Our fight is with the Government. They have let these people in. They are letting these people get away with what they are doing. We just have to get creative and try to arm the american people with what we have in knowlege and strength.
We are a team here. Everyone is upset over this awful tragedy happening in the United States.

I don't know what studies this guy has been reading, but they certainly differ from the studies I've examined.

Besides all that, what about the rule of law? Regarless of the financial aspects concerning illegal immigration - these folks broke the law! We should never, under no circumstance, contemplate rewarding lawbreakers with the very thing they broke the law to receive. To suggest that we should ignore the rules (law) because of some perceived potential benefit is ridiculous and flys in the face of everything most Americans have been taught since early childhood.

I want to see all illegals deported and anyone aiding and abetting them as well.

All I ever hear about from liberals is - Oh these people are so nice.
If they are so nice and contributing so much to our society then how come I am not hearing about all the random acts of kindness, innovative wonderful inventions and cures for diseases.

In reality it's always about how they can steal, kill, beat-up, lie, cheat, and low ball American citizens.

How do you get nice from that?