Thread: Is America succumbing to pre Russian Revolution?

Thought came to mind this morning....lol sometimes they actually do.

With all the illegal aliens coming across the border being indoctrinated into the leftist groups, you know them all, this may be something to think about. Suppose, with all the wealth of these organization, they arm these people to over take the United States by force. Take a look at the movie Dr. Zhivago during the pre Russina revolution.

http://europeanhistory.about.com/librar ... eline2.htm
The Russian Revolutions: A Timeline Pre-1905
The Nineteenth Century
• 1848-70: Alexander Herzen's ideas begin to blend Western Socialism with the traditional peasant communes of Russia.
• 1861: The emancipation of the serfs: peasants are freed from feudal controls and tied closely to their village communes.
• 1861 - 64: Disappointment at the emancipation leads to small amounts of physical rebellion and a surge in intellectual unrest; the Zemyla i volya (land and liberty) party is formed.
• 1864: The zemstvo, local councils, are created to replace feudal courts and government; the nobility are generally in charge.
• 1866: Karakozov tries to kill Tsar Alexander II, prompting The White Terror.
• 1866 - 70: The White Terror, a period of intense anti-rebellious activity by the government.
• 1867- 1870's: The ideas of Revolutionary Populism (narodnichestvo) develop, based on an idealistic look at rural communes as collective, land sharing, power sharing groups. Believers are called narodniki.
• 1874: The Mad Summer, where thousands of young intellectuals flock unorganised to the countryside in order to teach socialism; peasant disinterest causes it to fail dismally and the socialists begin a turn to underground activity.
• 1876: A second Zemyla i volya group forms, but they split in 1879 over the issue of terror: the Cherny peredel denounce it, while the Narodnaya volya, want to use it to achieve their aims.
• 1881: Tsar Alexander II is killed by members of Narodnaya volya; the new tsar, Alexander III, begins a repressive, racist and xenophobic crackdown on the Russian people.
• 1883: The first Russian Marxist group is formed (in Switzerland): The Group for the Liberty of Labour.
• 1880-1900: Russia begins a period of swift industrialisation under Witte, creating a densely packed factory workforce living in poor conditions and doing dangerous jobs; this new population looks remarkably like Marx's proletariat and Russian Marxism grows around them. The new workers are politically aware, organising and striking.
• 1894: Death of Alexander III; Nicholas II succeeds as Tsar.
• 1897: A young radical is given a three year exile in Siberia for illegal workers activities; his name is Lenin.
• 1898: The First Congress of the Russian Socialist Democratic Labour Party (RSDRP) meets, an attempt to unite the many small Russian socialist/marxist groups. It takes place outside Russia and isn't very successful.


The Early Twentieh Century
• 1900: Socialist Revolutionary (SR) parties form, reflecting the aims of the Narodniki and the methods of the Narodnaya volya; Lenin is amongst a group that publishes Iskra (The Spark).
• 1901-5: An economic downturn creates discontent; the zemstvos begin to organise and form a coherent agenda; workers develop a strong strikers movement.
• 1902 - 7: The 'Years of the Red Cockerel', a period of rural unrest caused by anger at the injustices of the 1861 emancipation.
• 1902: The campaign for a national zemstov assembly begins; Lenin publishes What is to be Done?, a work with very strong views on party organisation.
• 1903: The Second RSDRP Congress meets abroad; this achieves little, but Lenin and a friend argue over organisation, creating a divide that forms two new sub groups: the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks.
• 1904: The Russo-Japanese war begins.
• 1904: 13 zemstovs organise a medical brigade for the war led by Prince Lvov, who persuades the Tsar to allow it; this is the first time zemstovs are allowed to unite nationally; Lvov becomes a hero.
• July 1904: Plehve, Minister of Interior and hardliner against reform, killed by SR's; public either indifferent or celebratory. Other opposition groups join campaign for national zemstov assembly.
• November 6-9 1904: The Zemstov Assembly: 103 representatives meeting with permission from the Minister of Interior; produces resolution on assembly and reforms, which is rejected by the Tsar.
• December 12 1904: Decrees expand the rights of zemstovs and ease censorship, but there is no assembly.
Go on to the following pages at this site.....

Is this what is happening in the United States today?

I wish they would it would make cleaning up the country easier

Sapperwes EXCUSE ME.....PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF WITH THAT STATEMENT......
You do know that this was the beginning of the spread of Communisum in Russia....

If you don't know anything I suggest you start reading....or at least see the movie Doctor Zhivago to get a little sense as to what was going on...Geeeeeeeeeeeees thinking that this would be a good thing for the United States, you just blew my mind. Are you sure you are in the right place here, we are Americans.

I wish the illegals would try to take this country by force

ok, please explain yourself next time

Good job on jumping my butt

LOL just watch it.....I almost lost it when I saw your first statement.

I'm not good at writeing and all the other peaceful options that we have right now.I just wish the would do something stupid so I can use the skills that I have.

Swtncgram, ,

??????????? I thought the 'Red Dawn' reply was on this thread!

Because, yes, I believe the Commumist/Socialists are invading us deliberately, and by long term plan. Remember, I'm ancient, and grew up with family who died fighting for Europe and us against the Nazis, and that in my story, I tell how my Lithuanian Great-Grandpa got here.

Important post you've got here!

curiouspat,

I believe the Commumist/Socialists are invading us deliberately, and by long term plan. Remember, I'm ancient, and grew up with family who died fighting for Europe and us against the Nazis, and that in my story, I tell how my Lithuanian Great-Grandpa got here.

Well said. The social issues our ancestors came to this country to get away from. Are now staring us in the face and it's scary. I feel so betrayed by our goverment. And the sad part about it. Our youth is being used to support the movement.