Thread: Black America! WHY are they not up in arms too!

The illegal immigration wave as negatively affected the black community moreso than most other groups, and I can't understand why their leaders and they themselves are quiet.

Why?

I think if they came out and voiced a strong opinion, it would be awesome.

The democrats hung them out to dry. When they needed their "compassionate" vote, they catered to them.. now that they want additional dependent voters they tossed the black americans and their concerns to the wayside...

Why is this not explored more deeply?

Great question, BrightNail .. and one that needs an answer!

I agree BrightNail and welcome to ALIPAC.

Hi Judy.

Actually there was a black man on Neil Cavuto show yesterday and he said exactly that. That the illegals were taking jobs from black Americans and driving the wages even lower for the American blacks. Another fellow with him was a naturalized citizen of hispanic origin and he was angry too. He said it makes a mockery of all he had to go through to come here legally and then just give it away to law breakers.

Hi BrightNail. I have often wondered the same thing. I'm sorry to say I have no answer.

welcome..

yeah, I don't get it.... where is the outrage?

just so weird that they are silent, or maybe the political machine considers them irrelevent.. I don't.

Why don't people consider taking out small ads in the local papers in those communities, or ? I don't know.

We all scratch our head, yet nothing happens....

Lets compile the negative effects that illegal immigration has on the black communities.. socially, economically etc.... and then lets start pushing that angle...

Here is one link I know of:

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_ ... _jobs.html

I have wondered the same thing. I can only guess it's because Al and his crew are based up North where you have so many immigrants, both legal and illegal, that the Mexican invasion is not yet felt there as it is here in the border states. It's a fact that Afro-Mexicans are treated like dirt in Mexico and many illegals bring that racism with them. All you have to do is look at Los Angeles to see how Blacks who have no gang or criminal ties are being killed just for being Black - even a 13 yr old girl was killed for no other reason than she was Black. Anyone who knows US history can tell you that Black Americans have always answered the call when it came time to. And folks, the time is near...

Ted Hayes is a black activist sounding the alarm: here the wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Hayes

Perhaps his registration as a Republican subtracts support from blacks who otherwise might join him.

I know he has a march or rally planned in the near future. I'll try to get some info.

It would be awesome if we could get the black democratic support. I just don't know if they have become aware of this urgent issue!! Their leaders need to let them know what is going on!!!

Mass Immigration vs. Black America

May 9, 2007

Statement of T. Willard Fair,President and CEO, Urban League of Greater Miami, Center for Immigration Studies Board Member

Before the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law Committee on the Judiciary U.S. House of Representatives


Good morning and thank you for the opportunity to address this panel.

I have devoted much of my adult life to one of the most important challenges facing our country: How to help young black men build constructive lives as fathers and breadwinners. The size of the problem was outlined in a recent book published by the National Urban League entitled The State of Black America 2007: Portrait of the Black Male -- black men are much more likely to be unemployed than white men, more likely to be dropouts, in prison, in poverty, or dead.

There are many reasons for grim statistics like this, including the continuing effects of slavery and Jim Crow; the shift in the economy away from manufacturing; broken schools in our big cities; the glorification of self-destructive behavior by popular culture.

But one factor is too often ignored -- mass immigration.

There was little immigration when the struggle for civil rights began to achieve success in the 1950s and 1960s. In fact, the 1965 immigration law that started today's mass immigration was itself seen as a civil rights measure, intended to clean out rules that favored immigrants from some countries over others. Sen. Edward Kennedy, then, as now, chairman of the Senate immigration subcommittee, said "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not cause American Workers to lose their jobs"

So much for predictions.

Since 1965, nearly 30 million legal immigrants have come here, plus millions of illegal aliens. The results have been devastating for those Americans -- black or white -- who compete for jobs with this immigrant tide. George Borjas of Harvard has shown that immigration has cut the wages of American men without a high school degree by $1,800 a year. Economists at Northeastern University have found that businesses are substituting immigrants for young American workers, especially for young black men. In fact, scholars estimate that immigration is the reason for one-third of the drop in employment among black men, and even some of the increase in incarceration.

Of course, none of that means that individual immigrants -- or particular immigrant groups -- can be blamed for the difficulties facing black men. Being pro-Me should never make me anti-You. Nor can we use immigration as a crutch, blaming it for all our problems. The reality is that less-educated black men in America today have a variety of problems -- high rates of crime and drug use, for example, and poor performance at work and school -- that are caused by factors unrelated to level of immigration.

But if cutting immigration and enforcing the law wouldn't be a cure-all, it sure would make my job easier. Take employment -- immigration isn't the whole reason for the drop in employment of black men; it's not even half the reason. But it is the largest single reason, and it's something we can fix relatively easily.

Think about it this way: If there's a young black man in Liberty City, where I live, who's good with his hands and wants to become a carpenter, which is more likely to help him achieve that goal -- amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?

Which is more likely to help an ex-convict or recovering addict get hired at an entry-level job and start the climb back to a decent life -- amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?

Which is more likely to persuade a teenager in the inner city to reject the lure of gang life and instead stick with honest employment -- amnesty and more immigration, or enforcement and less immigration?

And it's not just a matter of jobs. Whatever your views on government social programs, everyone can agree that resources are not infinite -- there's only so much social spending to go around. And since immigrants have relatively low skills and low incomes, they use a lot of social services and pay little in taxes, cutting into the spending on America's own poor. The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that illegal aliens alone cost federal taxpayers $10 billion more a year in services than they pay in taxes -- that's $10 billion that's not being spent on disadvantaged Americans, not counting the much larger deficits at the state and local level, where most social services are provided.

Likewise with the schools. This is an issue close to my heart, since I co-founded Florida's first charter school and was recently confirmed as chairman of the statewide Board of Education. We must offer the best education possible to all our children, for their own good and for the good of our country. But as budgets have tightened, school enrollment has surged, and all of the growth in the nation's school-age population -- 100 percent -- comes from immigrant families. This surge in enrolment has led to school overcrowding and has diverted resources that would otherwise have been devoted to at-risk students.

Solutions to the challenges facing black Americans have to come from both private efforts and government initiative -- but regardless of the specific approach, flooding the job market and overwhelming the public schools and other government services undermines all our efforts. The interests of black Americans are clear: No amnesty, no guestworkers, enforce the immigration law.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/fai...ony050907.html