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    Azatloonies!!

    http://spaces.msn.com/topiltzin216/blog/

    http://spaces.msn.com/gcxicano/

    I just really had no idea until last week about the racist, violent, and angry intent of some of the groups associated with last weeks "boycott". I had faith in the essential good nature of man and thought such hatred to be on the fringe, like the KKK and neo-nazis. These groups (Aztlan, la raza) though seem more aware and are better organized. How crafty! To blend into a larger social movement like this. Like a jack in the box. There are University Professors with Phd's(Truxillo-UNM), lawyers (Gutierrez), even the Mayor of LA was supposedly with the Aztlan folks. I found this dumb kids webpage among many others on msn and it truly disturbs me. How offensive! To think, I thought the warnings about such groups initially to be trumped up to discount the movement. Guess I was the fool... When will the others see them for what they are?
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    Thanks for the heads up Zach. Once again the "plan de Aztlan" details a seditious attempt to takeover this continent for Mexico. There is even a call for "restitution" for "past economic and political wrongs" etc. We shall all be made to pay them back for everything they have "suffered" over the past 160 years. I guess each Mexican, legal and illegal shall have a claim against the US.

    We've heard some of that plan before, but the most disturbing part is at the end. It states that "El plan de Aztlan is on most major university and college websites -- here are a few: UTexas, UCLA, UMich, UColorado, UCSB, UTexasPanAm, Oregon State"

    What the h is going on at these universities that they allow such anarchy garbage web space on servers supported by tax payers? These institutions of "higher learning" need a few condemnatory letters to their deans and presidents. Hispanics going to school is one thing, encouraging or enabling Aztlan BS and anarchy is another.
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    As far as contacting the universities I took the first one, so here is the information on how to reach the U of Texas.

    On the U of Texas site the plan appears here : http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/mecha/archive/plan.html
    University of Texas has nine campuses, UT Arlington, UT Austin, UT Brownsville, UT Dallas, UT El Paso, UT Pan American, UT Permian Basin, UT San Antonio, UT Tyler
    The Chancellor is Mark G. Yudof
    Contact # 601 Colorado Street, 4th Floor ||
    # Austin, Texas 78701
    # Telephone: (512) 499-4201 ||
    # Fax: (512) 499-4215
    and the board of regents page has an email link you can click on. http://www.utsystem.edu/bor/
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    Maybe some of you will post the necessary contact numbers of others. "The plan" is put forth by Mecha, the student quasi-revolutionary group.
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    You're not alone, Zach1776. Millions of Americans are not aware of the evil that lurks in many of these groups.

    The anarchists and socialists are behind these groups. They stir up trouble and hide behind social issues. LaRaza, MEChA, SDS, Aztlan, ACLU, and dozens of other groups are all organized and funded by socialists and anarchists. Socialism has been rampant in Central and South America for years. Mexico will be the next country to go that way. They want US to go that way. Castro and his South American cronies don't care about illegal aliens here, they only use them as a "cause" behind which they can hide and pursue their real goal. Hiding behind one cause, yet having a different goal, is subterfuge.

    These groups use words like "rights" and "justice" and "equality" to ensnare Americans because they know those words have been part of our national fabric since the beginning. They use the words to create guilt or sympathy. They use these words to distort their true goal. Their goal is to take down our country. They, ultimately, want us to fail.

    Listen to all of these groups and you will notice a common thread: they foment racsim, they encourage class warfare and race-baiting. They point fingers in every direction but their own. They are unwaivering in their goal. They subside for awhile and then gather strength again.

    Many of these groups start at Universities and Colleges. They're educated and organized. Our educational system is rife with these people.
    They are the elitists. They think they know what's good for us. They think socialism is the answer. That movement leads to a mass population of poor, powerless people -- and a tiny group of wealthy, powerful people. And guess which group they intend to be!!??

    They are using the illegals. That is one more reason why we must kick the illegals out. We must not give the anarchists and socialists another "cause" to hide behind. This isn't hysteria or paranoia, this is historical fact.

    The socialists and anarchists (anarchists being the violent wing of the socialists, I believe) may lose the battles, but little-by-little they win the war. This is known as incrementalism. That is why we must remain vigilant. Even if we win the illegal alien issue, the s & a people will be looking for a new issue. And then we have the fascists...radical Islam is in that camp. Another group out to ruin us. But the s & a groups will exploit the War on Terror if they get the chance.

    Sorry, I'm lecturing (again!) and I don't mean to do that.
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    It is SEDITION! I mean isn't that a criminal offense worth being arrested over!? Or are the politicians too cowardly, or stupid enough to believe that their economic contribution is worth more to us than their sedition is dangerous!? By the way,... doesn't it seem as though the politicians are essentially selling US citizenship? You can essentially stay if you have turned enough profit for an appropriate length of time. I prefer to leave the criterion for citizenship to the original: freedom loving, law abiding, family oriented, own business minding, assimilationist (is it even a word?), democratically committed citizens.

    In special circumstances we should make exceptions, ie Rwanda, Sudan, etc... These must be as in these cases EXCEPTIONAL situations... Otherwise we have become the Red Cross. Mexico is no such special circumstance...I am almost angry enough to say to them..." no you had your fair share, now its other nations' turns now."

    ...and another thing ...I am tempted to turn in my passport if they get anything resembling amesty, as nationality and borders will have officially become meaningless. I 'spose we can come and go as we please now!?
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    Re: Azatloonies!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach1776
    http://spaces.msn.com/topiltzin216/blog/

    http://spaces.msn.com/gcxicano/

    I just really had no idea until last week about the racist, violent, and angry intent of some of the groups associated with last weeks "boycott". I had faith in the essential good nature of man and thought such hatred to be on the fringe, like the KKK and neo-nazis. These groups (Aztlan, la raza) though seem more aware and are better organized. How crafty! To blend into a larger social movement like this. Like a jack in the box. There are University Professors with Phd's(Truxillo-UNM), lawyers (Gutierrez), even the Mayor of LA was supposedly with the Aztlan folks. I found this dumb kids webpage among many others on msn and it truly disturbs me. How offensive! To think, I thought the warnings about such groups initially to be trumped up to discount the movement. Guess I was the fool... When will the others see them for what they are?
    Well Zach, thanks to other alarmist groups in the past who were found to be true loonies, the American mind has been conditioned to take such information as this and to call it "loonie" before really investigating it themselves - which is quite unfortunate and perilous in THIS instance of "alarm"

    I get it all the time on my website at http://www.stormwarningusa.com When people see the stuff there, and even after I have provided the links so they can go and research/investigate these groups for themselves, some STILL come back to me and say "I think you're just an alarmist. Hasn't anyone ever told you that you don't cry FIRE! in a crowded theatre??" This is a common mindset which is going to lead to a very rude awakening for millions - and soon. Will they listen even after telling them THAT? Nope.

    You say at first you thought the warnings were just trumped up garb. To be perfectly honest with you, it hasn't been "trumped up" enough!

    Take your research a few steps further an do some deeper digging on these groups and you will discover some very troubling information on them. The folks who run La Raza's website at http://www.nclr.org have even been "investigated" by the Secret Service at one point, and then let go. Nothing wrong apparantly. Yet time and time again, we find what seem to be millions of websites which have audio clips of these "leaders" making threats against people, threatening takeovers and even the possibility of violence.

    Since they have been getting away with it for so long now, it bolsters their movement and their intentions have been given the okay by even our own government. For lack of action is to condone the result.

    Kurt
    Pro Patri Vigilans! Death to Aztlan!!

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    I definitely do not intend to dismiss nor intend for others to underestimate the seriousness of their threat. I am very aware and have in the last two weeks read any and everything I can about them including what is on their own websites. I use the term loony purely to invoke a sense of levity as I think that if we don't do this on occasion we risk deteriorating into an angry seething mass of "loonies" ourselves. Research is my craft and is really all I know how to do...a job most illegals can't do (evident in their outrageous rewriting of history etc...) After reading article after article, warning after wrning I need to be able to let off steam and not be afraid of offending someone needlessly. I do feel safer knowing that there are people such as yourself who will remain steadfastly direct and vigilantly dour in your approach to these insurgents and criminals. You are undoubtedly tougher than me. Well, in the immortal words of gump..."thats all I have to say about that..."
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