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12-23-2011, 05:50 AM #1
Was Baby Jesus an Illegal Immigrant?
Was Baby Jesus an Illegal Immigrant?
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By Mark Tooley on 12.23.11 @ 6:08AM
Some religious voices certainly think so.
At Christmas time, should the Nativity story be interpreted as a tale of solidarity with illegal immigrants? Some religious voices, anxious to push some version of liberalized immigration policy as a Christian imperative, describe Jesus and the Holy Family as the most premier of illegal immigrants.
One recent blogger for the Progressive Christian Alliance even crafted a novelette called "Christmas Undocumented: Anunciación" about a pregnant 14-year-old girl named Ave who is smuggled across the Texas border so she can get to her boyfriend in Alabama. First, she visits her cousin Isabella in San Antonio, who "leaps" for joy when hearing about the pregnancy. Only the first installment of the story has been released, but presumably Alabama's new immigration enforcement law will affect young Ave, her boyfriend, and the new baby.
A recent column for the National Catholic Reporter similarly posited that Mary and Joseph, with Baby Jesus, were akin to today's illegals by "seeking posada, or shelter" but finding no room at the inn. "The Christmas season should remind us of how Mary and Joseph and the baby Jesus also represented migrants and refugees who were rejected like today's immigrants," the columnist suggested. "What if those we turn away today include Mary, Joseph and Jesus?" A cynical commenter responded: "What if the illegal aliens we reject are Herod or the soldiers who crucified Jesus?"
A blogger self-described as "A Unitarian Universalist Minister in the South" has laid out his case for Jesus and Holy Family as illegal immigrants. "Shortly after his birth, we read that King Herod orders the killing of the innocent, all children under the age of two," explained the Unitarian, who now pastors in the immigration battle zone of Alabama. "So Jesus and his parents become fugitives under the law and flee once again this time to Egypt. Jesus is now an illegal immigrant with a criminal record."
Ostensibly Jesus' illegal status continued even after Mary and Joseph returned from Egypt "not to Bethlehem where Jesus is a legal resident but to Nazareth," where "Jesus grows up as an illegal alien where he takes the job of carpenter away from other Nazarenes." According to the Unitarian minister, if the Nativity story happened in today's Arizona, "Sheriff Arpaio would seek to arrest Joseph and Mary, throw them into Tent City, where Mary would have had her baby with little medical attention." In this scenario, Jesus would be an "anchor baby." And Joseph may have a dream directing him back into Mexico, though the "trek across the Arizona desert is as treacherous and dangerous as the trek from Bethlehem to Egypt."
The imagined view of Jesus as illegal immigrant is not limited to liberal Unitarian Universalists. Earlier this year, a prominent Southern Baptist seminary dean wrote that "our Lord Jesus himself was a so-called 'illegal immigrant.'" After all, Mary and Joseph had fled, "like many of those in our country right now, a brutal political situation," and "sojourned" in Egypt. Young Jesus "spent his childhood years in a foreign land away from his relatives among people speaking a different language with strange customs."
Yes, but which Egyptian immigration laws did Mary and Joseph violate when they fled there to protect the Baby Jesus from a murderous King Herod? Neither Scripture nor non-canonical sources reveal any such violations. Joseph, Mary and Jesus remained in Egypt until Herod was dead, when they settled in Nazareth. They were essentially temporary religious refugees who fled persecution.
Besides, if both ancient Judaea and ancient Egypt were under the Roman Empire, was moving from one to the other an act of "immigration," much less "illegal"? In his 2009 book The Immigration Crisis: Immigrants, Aliens, and the Bible, James Hoffmeier of Trinity International University near Chicago wrote that the Holy Family en route to Egypt likely would have passed several Roman forts, some of whose ruins have recently been discovered. At these forts, "Joseph undoubtedly had to stop and obtain permission to enter Egypt."
No, there's no historical reason to believe that Joseph, Mary and Baby Jesus were ever illegal immigrants to Egypt or anywhere else. They temporarily were refugees from murderous religious and political persecution. Unlike the Holy family, most illegal immigrants come to America seeking higher wages, not fleeing persecution. Unlike the Holy Family, most illegal immigrants come to stay, though hundreds of thousands every year do in fact return home.
Faith dictates that churches offer their ministry and message of redemption, embodied in the Nativity story, to all people, including illegal immigrants. But there is no covert message within the Christmas narrative offering specific policy guidance on U.S. immigration law. The temptation to extract politics out of the Nativity account should be resisted. Perhaps the most infamous example was the Rev. Jesse Jackson's 1992 Democratic Convention speech comparing Vice President Dan Quayle to murderous King Herod. The birth of Baby Jesus was significant enough by itself that it needs no political sloganeering to amplify its importance.
About the Author
Mark Tooley is president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy in Washington, D.C. and author of Taking Back the United Methodist Church.
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12-23-2011, 06:01 AM #2
That question itself is nuts. First of all Jesus is the Son of God, God Incarnate, the Creator and Owner of this world. So Jesus could live anywhere and not be illegal, imo.
Illegals equating their stories to the story of Jesus is just way.... beyond ridiculous and imo God is not pleased!As Aristotle said, “Tolerance and apathy are the first virtue of a dying civilization.â€
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12-23-2011, 06:06 AM #3
Im with you Forest
any thing to start crap. this is going back be for our time
this guy should wake the hell up or go & read about Our lord .
Merry Christmas every oneLast edited by Ratbstard; 12-23-2011 at 06:11 AM.
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12-23-2011, 06:26 AM #4
They will grasp at anything to justify their actions.
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12-23-2011, 08:52 AM #5
Mary and Joseph were traveling to the town of Joseph's family to be counted in the census. They were not illegal, in fact, they were traveling in accordance with the law that required them to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem to participate in the Roman census.
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12-23-2011, 11:09 PM #6
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12-24-2011, 12:20 AM #7
Just another graphic and immoral display of how illegal immigrant invasion supporters will attempt to twist and corrupt all that Americans hold dear. Baby Jesus as an illegal immigrant? Now they are glorifying illegal aliens and comparing them to God and the virgin birth! Not surprising after we saw the mass murdering illegal alien lead character in the movie Machete portrayed as Christ.
And as far as anyone leaping for joy at news of a 14 year old girl being pregnant and on a quest to find her illegal alien child raping boyfriend in Alabama, well that says it all doesn't it?
Here in America, our society and courts have deemed those that have sex with 13-14 year old children to be felons. Not so down in Mexico where the legal age of consent is 14, but that does not matter since most laws regarding rape and child molestation are never really enforced there.
But hey! Illegal aliens don't worry about BOUNDARIES or LAWS. They just do what they want and these freakish elements in some of the fringes of Christianity will come rushing to excuse and glorify their trespasses, their invasion, their theft, their idolatry, their covetousness and in this case... their rape of children. It is so unfortunate that many of the Churches have found themselves infiltrated by men and women that want to get close to children for sexual attraction reasons and you can see that shining out in this report above.
Comparing a child rape victim illegal alien that had to pay the drug smugglers a few grand and probably sexual gratifications to be smuggled into America under the cover of darkness is not just blasphemous, it is down right satanic in my opinion.
I am so weary of these charlatans in these fringe churches that are looking for new markets of gullible illegal aliens that will give them access to their children.
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12-24-2011, 12:27 AM #8
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Unbeleavable..How do you even compare Baby Jesus and Illegal Immigration? We have to put the rulers back into the nuns hands and let em swing away again...
The temptation to extract politics out of the Nativity account should be resisted.
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12-24-2011, 09:43 AM #9
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I know. I would like to see her have a go at those heathens.
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12-24-2011, 10:01 AM #10
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Every year some looney tune comes out of the wood work comparing The Holy Family to illegals. It is getting old and rediculous.
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