Thread: Federal Judge demands to know about swift detanies!!

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WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. -- A federal judge demanded Friday that immigration officials disclose the whereabouts of 265 people arrested in a raid at a meatpacking plant in Greeley last month.

U.S. District Judge John L. Kane gave Immigration and Customs Enforcement until Jan. 22 to submit a list accounting for all the detainees, including those who have been deported.

"There are people in custody -- there is an urgency to this," Kane said.


Kane told ICE officials to work on the list with union attorneys who are contesting the Greeley arrests.

ICE agents raided Swift & Co. meatpacking plants in six states on Dec. 12, arresting a total of 1,282 people. ICE has said about 220 face identity theft or other criminal charges and the rest face immigration charges, which are considered administrative rather than criminal.

The United Food and Commercial Workers Union filed suit in Denver federal court, alleging the arrests of the 265 Greeley workers violated their constitutional rights to due process.

The lawsuit claims ICE agents threatened and lied to workers during last month's immigration raids.

ICE has denied the charge. Federal prosecutors say the workers were informed of their rights.

ICE also raided Swift plants in Grand Island, Neb.; Cactus, Texas; Hyrum, Utah; Marshalltown, Iowa; and Worthington, Minn. The Denver lawsuit did not include workers arrested at those plants.

Judge, U. S. District Court, District of Colorado
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on November 2, 1977, to a seat vacated by Alfred A. Arraj; Confirmed by the Senate on December 15, 1977, and received commission on December 16, 1977. Assumed senior status on April 8, 1988.

U.S. District Judge John L. Kane gave Immigration and Customs Enforcement until Jan. 22

"There are people in custody -- there is an urgency to this," Kane said.

Why is the Judge giving 10 days for action on this urgent matter? Do you think he's giving ICE enough time to round them back up. Can't you just call somebody on the phone and find out who is locked up?

with all the phony names and IDs it should take a while, where is the urgency in helping the victims of the ID theft??????

Dixie Wrote:

Judge, U. S. District Court, District of Colorado
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on November 2, 1977, to a seat vacated by Alfred A. Arraj; Confirmed by the Senate on December 15, 1977, and received commission on December 16, 1977. Assumed senior status on April 8, 1988.

Dixie, is there a point here?

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Judge Urges Truce In War On Drugs ('Rocky Mountain News'
Says John Kane Jr., A Senior Federal Trial Judge In Denver,
Believes The Drug War Already Is Lost And Has Been Making The Argument
In Articles And Speeches For About Six Months That Drug Abuse
Should Be Treated As A Public Health Problem Instead Of A Criminal Problem -
To Eliminate The Illicit Market, Drugs Ought To Be Provided To Anybody,
Under Medical Supervision - At No Cost, If Necessary)

Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:27:08 -0700
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Pubdate: Thu, 4 Jun 1998
Author: Karen Abbott - Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer

JUDGE URGES TRUCE IN WAR ON DRUGS

Giving drugs to users would unclog courts and eliminate illegal market for substances

A Denver federal judge wants the government to give free drugs to drug abusers and stop prosecuting them as criminals.

John Kane Jr., a senior trial judge, believes the drug war already is lost.
He advocates treating drug abuse as a public health problem instead.

Kane, who has been making the argument in articles and speeches for about
six months, said he doesn't advocate making all drugs legal for anybody who
wants them.

"Prosecution and severe criminal penalties should still be maintained for
the illegal manufacture, distribution for sale and illegal importing of
drugs," Kane said.

"But I think that the use of drugs should not be treated by the criminal
law," he said.

"Either through public health clinics or through physicians and
pharmacists, drugs ought to be provided to anybody, under medical
supervision -- and at no cost, if necessary."

The purpose isn't to encourage people to use drugs, but to eliminate the
illegal market for them, he said, comparing the "war on drugs" to
Prohibition's failure to end alcoholism.

Kane said courts are drowning in criminal drug cases while other crimes go
unprosecuted and civil disputes wait for trial time.

Rep. Joel Hefley, R-Colo., who is seeking re-election to Congress in
November, called Kane's idea a bad one.

"I think that sends a real signal to society, and to young people, that
this is really OK because, after all, the government is doing it," Hefley
said.

"Even with legalized liquor, we still have bootleggers and we still have
alcoholism," he said. "And I'm not sure, from a social standpoint, that it
would reduce those who abuse drugs."

Andrew Hudson, spokesman for Denver Mayor Wellington Webb, said the mayor
disagrees with Kane's view.

Kane said other federal judges across the country -- most notably, a senior
federal trial judge in Manhattan, Robert Sweet -- are saying publicly that
the war on drugs has failed.

The U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy, headed by Barry McCaffrey,
known as the nation's "drug czar," has heard that message before and is
vehemently opposed.

"Drugs are a real danger, even in small amounts," spokesman Brian Morton said.

He said drug abuse nationwide has dropped about 50 percent in the past 15
years, largely because "drugs are against the law, and police uphold the
law, and the societal disapproval that comes from that."

"To say this is a 'war' that has failed doesn't serve the public, doesn't
do any service to the good people out there working in treatment centers,
the law enforcement community and the citizens and parents and teachers and
ministers who are trying to stop this scourge on America's cities," Morton
said.

Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo., seeking re-election to Congress in November,
delivered a carefully worded statement on Kane's views through spokesman
Jamin Spitzer: "A proposal such as this is unlikely to be considered by a
Congress that recently voted against funding needle exchange."

But DeGette's statement didn't disclose her own views.

"Right," Spitzer said.

Needle exchange programs seek to control some drug-related health problems
by giving illegal users a sort of amnesty to turn in used needles for new
ones, reducing the spread of disease.

In April, Kane made a speech to Colorado's municipal judges at their annual
convention about what he sees as the drug war's failure.

"I think some of them were stunned," Kane said. "And some of them said,
"Well, you know, maybe we agree -- but what is a judge doing talking about
controversial issues?"'

Kane said he cleared his plan to be outspoken on his views with Stephanie
Seymour of Tulsa, Okla., the chief judge of the federal 10th Circuit, and
with a federal judiciary committee on judges' ethics.

"Not only is it all right, but I have an affirmative duty to speak out on
critical legal issues," he said.

On the bench, Kane does not handle drug cases or any other criminal cases
-- an option for senior federal trial judges, who choose the cases they
take.

Why is it that we always here about civil rights of illegal aliens?
They have no rights, they are here illegally.

Our government knows without a doubt what the American people think about the invaders and yet they do not seem to care what we think and continue to pander to the illegals.

I hate to say it, but they are going to do what they are going to do no matter what the people want. The only thing that will stop these traitors is a revolution.

UnemployedAmerican wrote:

Our government knows without a doubt what the American people think about the invaders and yet they do not seem to care what we think and continue to pander to the illegals.

I hate to say it, but they are going to do what they are going to do no matter what the people want. The only thing that will stop these traitors is a revolution.

...or we just start firing them right and left.....

Originally Posted by April

UnemployedAmerican wrote:

Our government knows without a doubt what the American people think about the invaders and yet they do not seem to care what we think and continue to pander to the illegals.

I hate to say it, but they are going to do what they are going to do no matter what the people want. The only thing that will stop these traitors is a revolution.

...or we just start firing them right and left.....

That won't work since the law schools will be able to churn out "new versions" by the millions.

I think doing something/anything is better than letting them walk all over us......I am sure you are right though, there will be new ones to fire...............