Thread: Email WhiteHouse.gov on Executive Order

Send your comments to Obama before he imposes an amnesty, by executive order. It is not confirmed that this will happen, but believed to be in the works, upon credible reports. Urge it to be stopped, now, before any final plan materializes.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact.



From NumbersUSA

Only Public Shaming Can Stop Amnesty Through Executive Actions That By-Passes Congress
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusab ... -passes-co


By Roy Beck, Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:38 PM EDT - posted on NumbersUSA

It seems like it would be against the law for the Administration to order a de facto amnesty for millions of illegal aliens while totally bypassing Congress. But 8 U.S. Senators believe that is what Obama officials are considering right now because most Members of Congress are scared to death to have to VOTE on an amnesty just a few months before elections.

(Read the letter from the Senators to Pres. Obama below.)

Your great success in keeping Congress from voting on a mass amnesty this year has stirred up a new threat.

Seeing that most Members of Congress don't want to vote for an amnesty this year, Administration officials appear to be considering ways to do a de facto amnesty without involving Congress.

We at NumbersUSA have been hearing about this behind the scenes for a few weeks but haven't had solid enough evidence to mount a national mobilization against. Now, the whispering has erupted with an open letter to the President from 8 U.S. Senators spelling out the details known thus far.

In a nutshell, there is discussion going on within the Administration about stopping nearly all deportations, presumably until "comprehensive immigration reform" can be passed to give illegal aliens full work and residency rights permanently. The point here is to satisfy the open-border bloc of voters who have been threatening to boycott the elections this fall unless Pres. Obama makes an all-out effort to pass an amnesty this year.


LETTER FROM 8 SENATORS

Dear President Obama:

We understand that there’s a push for your Administration to develop a plan to unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. We understand that the Administration may include aliens who have willfully overstayed their visas or filed for benefits knowing that they will not be eligible for a status for years to come. We understand that deferred action and parole are discretionary actions reserved for individual cases that present unusual, emergent or humanitarian circumstances. Deferred action and parole were not intended to be used to confer a status or offer protection to large groups of illegal aliens, even if the agency claims that they look at each case on a “case-by-caseâ€

This prez has no shame. How can our congress stand by and let this happen. They need to stand up and fight for THIER rights as our representatives. This prez is making them obsolete. There should be a limit on executive orders. He has no regard for the American people and the country as a whole. He is making a mochery of his office and us. He is becoming a dictator while the people in congress cheer him on. Can't we have someone with a backbone stand up to this @ss and start impeachment proceedings. They need to get rid of him before he gets rid of them.

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

This prez has no shame. How can our congress stand by and let this happen. They need to stand up and fight for THIER rights as our representatives. This prez is making them obsolete. There should be a limit on executive orders. He has no regard for the American people and the country as a whole. He is making a mochery of his office and us. He is becoming a dictator while the people in congress cheer him on. Can't we have someone with a backbone stand up to this @ss and start impeachment proceedings. They need to get rid of him before he gets rid of them.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT, OBAMA NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED BEFORE HE DOES FURTHER DAMAGE TO THE COUNTRY AND US. IN THE WORDS OF JOE WILSON OF S.C. TO OBAMA, "YOU LIE" IN REFERENCE TO HIS PROMISES IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED. HE WAS SUPPOSE TO CLEAN UP THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON BUT, HE HAS ONLY ADDED TO IT.

How does the Constitution defend the people against unconstitutional executive orders..

A standing President can with executive orders declare that he has the line item veto power, if there isn't anything like the constitution to stop him. What gives?

Our courts turned against us and created a dictatorship in 1937. Obama is the first to go beyond the scope of what EO's were to be used for. Total abuse of power...but we are hopeless at this point in time to stop it. If he does can it be challanged...sure the same way we are challanging the Obamacare bill and his eligibility and you see how far that is getting. Here is how it works:

Our courts turned against us and created a dictatorship.

The courts in 1937 decreed that treaties, known as executive agreements, signed by presidents Executive Orders do not require consensus or approval by either the legislative (Congress) or judicial (U.S. Supreme Court) branches of the government.
http://vactruth.com/2010/06/14/fourth-s ... ve-orders/

http://www.barefootsworld.net/constit1.html#Ab



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Regarding what is known as a State of National Emergency, "According to the United States Constitution, Article 1, only Congress shall make federal law. However, since the War and Emergency Powers Act of 1933, every president has usurped lawmaking powers. Their 'laws' are called Executive Orders (EOs). These EOs, not our Constitution, are what is governing America today. The War and Emergency Powers Act enables ... the president to declare a national emergency, and thereby become a dictator."[1]

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/1933.htm

Originally Posted by LadyStClaire

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

This prez has no shame. How can our congress stand by and let this happen. They need to stand up and fight for THIER rights as our representatives. This prez is making them obsolete. There should be a limit on executive orders. He has no regard for the American people and the country as a whole. He is making a mochery of his office and us. He is becoming a dictator while the people in congress cheer him on. Can't we have someone with a backbone stand up to this @ss and start impeachment proceedings. They need to get rid of him before he gets rid of them.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT, OBAMA NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED BEFORE HE DOES FURTHER DAMAGE TO THE COUNTRY AND US. IN THE WORDS OF JOE WILSON OF S.C. TO OBAMA, "YOU LIE" IN REFERENCE TO HIS PROMISES IN ORDER TO GET ELECTED. HE WAS SUPPOSE TO CLEAN UP THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON BUT, HE HAS ONLY ADDED TO IT.

There are limits. They are to be made within the scope of the declared emergency. What emergency was it when he wrote his first EO to cover up his identity? He can write what ever he wants and then take years in court to challenge it. By then he will be termed out of office AND we will be stuck with the second Tsunami wave of legal and illegal immigration that will make the first amnesty look like a stone thrown wave.

I have been screaming this for years and I think I have had 2 people question and talk to me about this.

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

This prez has no shame. How can our congress stand by and let this happen. They need to stand up and fight for THIER rights as our representatives. This prez is making them obsolete. There should be a limit on executive orders. He has no regard for the American people and the country as a whole. He is making a mochery of his office and us. He is becoming a dictator while the people in congress cheer him on. Can't we have someone with a backbone stand up to this @ss and start impeachment proceedings. They need to get rid of him before he gets rid of them.

Congress is letting it happen cuz the majority of those in congress just happen to be the same political party as the president. and most of them support amnesty for illegals. it gives them a voting block of 30 million people for the next 20 years or so.

He has never had regard for the american people.

and as OReilly said tonite in his talking points. if he does this, then the call for impeachment will greatly increase

Originally Posted by jamesw62

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

This prez has no shame. How can our congress stand by and let this happen. They need to stand up and fight for THIER rights as our representatives. This prez is making them obsolete. There should be a limit on executive orders. He has no regard for the American people and the country as a whole. He is making a mochery of his office and us. He is becoming a dictator while the people in congress cheer him on. Can't we have someone with a backbone stand up to this @ss and start impeachment proceedings. They need to get rid of him before he gets rid of them.

Congress is letting it happen cuz the majority of those in congress just happen to be the same political party as the president. and most of them support amnesty for illegals. it gives them a voting block of 30 million people for the next 20 years or so.

He has never had regard for the american people.

and as OReilly said tonite in his talking points. if he does this, then the call for impeachment will greatly increase

I believe that the government as a whole understood the constitution to be the law of the land that restricted and parametrized its authority. They have worked every day to usurp and destroy the constitution...by very slow subversion.

In sort...government hates the Constitution and constitutional law. Everyone is forced to swear an allegiance to it but they use crossed fingers.

But today...the last 20 years...the advent of the net has exposed them.

Lincoln issed the Emancipation Proclamation because Congress passed a law granting him the authority to do that. Without a grant of authority from Congress a President can't proclaim a law. Lincoln issued it as part of an executive order. It was done that way to make it clear that Presidents only have the power to issue executive orders and not make laws. An executive order is limited to the bureaucracy and has no effect beyond that except in the above situation. Without a law passed by Congress Presidents can't proclaim laws.

Originally Posted by Justthatguy

Lincoln issed the Emancipation Proclamation because Congress passed a law granting him the authority to do that. Without a grant of authority from Congress a President can't proclaim a law. Lincoln issued it as part of an executive order. It was done that way to make it clear that Presidents only have the power to issue executive orders and not make laws. An executive order is limited to the bureaucracy and has no effect beyond that except in the above situation. Without a law passed by Congress Presidents can't proclaim laws.

Until the "State of National Emergency" is undeclared we will continue to live in a dictatorship. It is just that simple. The odds are that since Obama is not legally eligible and will not pass the new laws that will require him to prove his citizenship for reelection...he will probably use the state of war clause that says that no new elections will happen thereby allowing him and congress to stay in office indefinitely.


State of national emergency From Source Watch

"According to the United States Constitution, Article 1, only Congress shall make federal law. However, since the War and Emergency Powers Act of 1933, every president has usurped lawmaking powers. Their 'laws' are called Executive Orders (EOs). These EOs, not our Constitution, are what is governing America today. The War and Emergency Powers Act enables ... the president to declare a national emergency, and thereby become a dictator."[1]

"Presidents can also carefully choose their words and declare a war on anything, in order to give them dictatorial control. For example, the War on Drugs makes it possible to use federal authorities, such as FBI, FEMA, BATF, and the military against American citizens. A well-known example is Waco. Another example is Hurricane Opal. After Florida was declared a nation emergency, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) arrived on the scene and residents were placed under marshal law (restricted to the point of not going outside their door). When the federal government does this, it is going against the Constitution. The War and Emergency Powers Act is an unconstitutional act on the part of our government, created so that presidents can bypass Congress, and do whatever they choose."[2]

"It also makes it possible to do away with posse comitatus in cases of 'emergency'. Posse comitatus is what protects American citizens from the military being used against them."[3]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _emergency