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    Oh for god's sake, it was a 2 year program, subject to renewal, no sunset provision applied. It began as a 2 year program on June 15, 2012. It was RENEWED for another 2 years on June 5, 2014, by the Director of USCIS. The renewal was extended to 3 years in November of 2014 by Jeh Johnson, Secretary of Homeland Security and in that same MEMO, Johnson provided for the DACA Expansion and DAPA. That's why the program expired on June 15, 2017 but for the extensions related to the extensions of the Texas lawsuit whose ruling required that DACA 2012 continue in effect during the course of the lawsuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh for god's sake, it was a 2 year program, subject to renewal, no sunset provision applied. It began as a 2 year program on June 15, 2012. It was RENEWED for another 2 years on June 5, 2014, by the Director of USCIS. The renewal was extended to 3 years in November of 2014 by Jeh Johnson, Secretary of Homeland Security and in that same MEMO, Johnson provided for the DACA Expansion and DAPA. That's why the program expired on June 15, 2017 but for the extensions related to the extensions of the Texas lawsuit whose ruling required that DACA 2012 continue in effect during the course of the lawsuit.
    No, the Texas lawsuit had nothing to do with DACA. The lawsuit was concerning DAPA and the DACA extension (2 to 3 year EADs). Of course the EADs are the work authorizations. The judge did not rule on DACA because it was not part of the actual lawsuit, however, he did say DACA was "most likely" unconstitutional.

    The actual DACA program does not have an expiration date per se, but the EADs and I-797 Notice of Action forms do. Both of those forms expire 24 months after issuance but are currently renewable. So no, there is no set date for the DACA program to expire in its entirety for everyone simultaneously. Furthermore, nothing expires if it is continued. So, generally speaking the program has never expired and it was never intended to unless the Secretary of DHS or the President of the United States ended it.

    Honestly, I don't even know why we're having this discussion because it's here nor there. Truth being, there has never been any question in anyones mind that President Trump or the Secretary of DHS has complete authority to end DACA at anytime and on a moments notice. You're the only person I've heard question the Trump administrations authority to end the program. The leaders of FAIR, NumbersUSA, ALIPAC and CIS have not questioned it. Of course I understand your motive is to protect Trump by providing him cover, but attempting to give the impression he can't do something that is within his power to do is not honest.

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    Yeah, they've all proven themselves to be extremely fact-sloppy. I bet like you, they didn't even know that DACA 2012 was renewed in 2014 for 2 more years or that the 2 year renewal of the program was increased to a 3 year program that expired June 15, 2017. Trump knew. I knew. Sean Spicer knew. The whole White House knew. Why didn't these organizations know? Why didn't you know? You pretend not to know even after I told you!

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