Thread: Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy Stop E-Verify Bills From Coming To The Floor

Originally Posted by April

What a bunch of traitors, we need to give them an earful!

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quisling: traitor, collaborator

Noun: A traitor who collaborates with an enemy force occupying their country.

They may be thinking about "big business" and "big business" donations---in regard to hurting their chances in the Fall.

In this regard, they might be somewhat smart!!

Arizona's employer laws should be heard/ruled on by the Supremes any time now.....If the Supremes rule in favor of Arizona's law, E-Verify will become the law of the land.

We get E-Verify, without it taking away our chances in the Fall of sending Obama back to Chicago!!

And, there is always "AFTER" the elections, to get
E-Verify pushed/passed.

It does us no good to win a "small" battle now----if we lose the war!!

Hacimo is on the money I think.

Calm down, there is no chance of e-verify being passed in this session . Even if it was passed Obama would veto it. These three are the republican leadership at the moment, they have their finger of the pulse of the congress, they have a million different balls to juggle and we are just foot soldiers waiting for orders. Their major job right now is to play defense and prevent Obama from doing permanent damage. We have no choice but to trust them to handle the defense strategy, at least for now.

I totally disagree with 'hacimo'. Boehner and company are not juggling anything. They are carrying the water for Obama. Raised the debt limit how many times without opposition? Doing nothing about Obama's executive branch running amok with new rules and regulations determined to kill the rest of what's left of the economy. Doing nothing about Obamacare (they don't have to repeal it, just strip it of all funding, one way being to NOT raise the debt ceiling). These three plus the GOP knotheads in the Senate are so weak and spineless they would not criticize Jack the Ripper if they thought it might cost them the cutlery industry donations and support.

If they would force a vote on e-verfiy and it passed but Obama vetoed it, so what? Use that against him in November, plus use it against everyone who voted against it in the House and Senate. Same with Obamacare. Same with the unwarranted EPA, FCC, FDA, etc. rules and regulations. Threaten to defund entire departments if they did not cease and desist from assuming the legislative prerogatives of the Congress. Show the American people how insidious this administration has become. Worse than that, how dangerous.

Amazing people have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear....PSSSSST who do they work for????? Not us that's for sure!!!!! If they did none of these many destructive policies would be getting passed...Do you notice anything they pass works against our Freedom and works for specials interests!!! But wait it gets better then they implement laws and rules against us and use them to protect their lying cheating butts against us....

Amazing people have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear....PSSSSST who do they work for????? Not us that's for sure!!!!!

That is the system that has evolved. Our Founding Fathers did not intend to create permanent careers for politicians. But that is what happened. The two party system has placed party needs, objectives, agendas, and priorities ahead of any national ones. Legalized bribery in the form of lobbying money has financed both parties, and the priorities of those special interests are what sets the agenda.

Originally Posted by 4thHorseman

That is the system that has evolved. Our Founding Fathers did not intend to create permanent careers for politicians. But that is what happened. The two party system has placed party needs, objectives, agendas, and priorities ahead of any national ones. Legalized bribery in the form of lobbying money has financed both parties, and the priorities of those special interests are what sets the agenda.

Well we reap what we sow...

Originally Posted by stevetheroofer

They may be thinking about "big business" and "big business" donations---in regard to hurting their chances in the Fall.

In this regard, they might be somewhat smart!!

Arizona's employer laws should be heard/ruled on by the Supremes any time now.....If the Supremes rule in favor of Arizona's law, E-Verify will become the law of the land.

We get E-Verify, without it taking away our chances in the Fall of sending Obama back to Chicago!!

And, there is always "AFTER" the elections, to get
E-Verify pushed/passed.

It does us no good to win a "small" battle now----if we lose the war!!

Hacimo is on the money I think.

Compare the contributions from the food procesors from 2010 to 2012. Republicans are now reciving the larges percentage of money. The charts are impossible to move over, please click the links.

The nice thing about Open secrets is that you can look at any industry and see who it is supporting. Silly me, I thought that our reps were our paid lobbyists.


Food Processing & Sales: Top Contributors to Federal Candidates, Parties, and Outside Groups

2012 Total contributions: $5,526,511

Open Secrets

[QUOTE][Arizona's employer laws should be heard/ruled on by the Supremes any time now.....If the Supremes rule in favor of Arizona's law, E-Verify will become the law of the land.

We get E-Verify, without it taking away our chances in the Fall of sending Obama back to Chicago!!

And, there is always "AFTER" the elections, to get
E-Verify pushed/passed./QUOTE]

Again, I disagree. If the Supreme Court rules in favor of Arizona's law it does not make e-verify the law of the land. It simply in makes it the law in those states which have passed it as part of their laws dealing with illegal immigration.

As to the "AFTER the Elections" tactic, this is what the wimps in the GOP do every election cycle. They will not take on any issue that smacks of controversy, saying once we control the government then we will proceed. Because of that approach they control nothing, even when in the majority. What did the GOP promise if they took back the House? How much have they delivered? My take is that if they do not have the intestinal fortitude to take these issues on now, there will be NO "After the Elections" for the GOP.

Leadership is taking on hard issues and putting yourself on the line based on your principles. Politics is kissing babies, kissing butts, risking as little as possible, catering to special interests, and letting someone else stick his head out. I would like to see some real leadership in the GOP.

Please! Remain a thorn in the side of injustice!

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Our TV campaign on Boehner blocking E-Verify is front-page news on Capitol Hill today

By Roy Beck, Thursday, March 8, 2012, 4:09 PM EST - posted on NumbersUSA
Members of Congress and their staffers started the day with one of Washington's daily newspapers blaring at the top of Page One:
E-Verify group to pressure Boehner with ads
Says speaker has stalled House vote
By late this afternoon, Speaker Boehner's office was proclaiming his loyalty to E-Verify and pointing fingers at committee chairmen for keeping the bill from a floor vote. A lot of phone calling from voters in between played a major role.

I will provide a lot of the story below and interject my comments in this type format. -- ROY

By Stephen Dinan
Wednesday, March 7, 2012
Fed up with Republican congressional leaders, a group advocating a crackdown on immigration will begin running ads Thursday demanding that House Speaker John A. Boehner allow a vote on legislation requiring businesses to use E-Verify, the government database to check workers' legal status.
NumbersUSA, the group sponsoring the ads, accused Mr. Boehner and his fellow Republican House leaders of blocking the bill over fears that it will anger Hispanic voters in an election year. But NumbersUSA says enacting the bill — which cleared a key committee in September but has since stalled — would help clear out unauthorized workers and open those jobs for Americans.
"Our gloves are off," said Roy Beck, executive director of the group, who noted that his organization has pushed for action behind the scenes without success.
He said the group is now ready to take the issue public with radio and television ads designed to force the GOP to choose between politics and American workers.
"At some point, you just have to bring this stuff out into public. We've given the leadership all kinds of time, all kinds of excuses, but it's been six months," Mr. Beck said.

We were pleased to hear that this story circulated quickly around House Republican circles today, ensuring that the people who have the ability to move Speaker Boehner (Republican Representatives) know that a grassroots citizen campaign is underway. Each of them has a choice of standing with unemployed Americans and mandatory E-Verify or standing with those who want to stop H.R. 2885 (the Legal Workforce Act) and keep 7 million illegal aliens in their U.S. jobs. Our hope is that rank-and-file Republicans who overwhelmingly support H.R. 2885 will stop cowering in fear of the House GOP leadership and band together and demand a vote.
If you haven't seen the TV ad yet, watch it here:
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Michael Steel, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner, blamed the legislative process for the bill's delay.
"Speaker Boehner has supported legislation with E-Verify in the past, and the issue is currently working its way through the committee process," Mr. Steel told The Washington Times in an email.

This was great news to hear, especially in conjunction with what the Speaker's staff was telling citizens who called in response to our ad. The implication of all of it was that the Speaker would be happy to support the mandatory E-Verify bill if it ever gets out of committee. The problem is that his staff keeps telling callers that the bill is stuck in both the Ways & Means Committee and the Judiciary Committee. But Judiciary passed H.R. 2885 on a 22-13 vote in September and has nothing left to do.
As far as Ways & Means, it is true that Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) still has to sign off on the part of the bill that requires the Social Security Administration to provide notifications when it suspects a worker has stolen an American's identity to get the job.
But Chairman Camp and his staff have done next to zero since September in even looking at the bill. Citizens calling Camp's offices today found staffers inaccurately pointing the finger at other committees as having responsibility for stonewalling the bill.
What we found today is that none of these major Republican leaders wants to publicly admit opposition to H.R. 2885. And all want to blame somebody else. But the fact is that Speaker Boehner has at the least allowed Chairman Camp to stop mandatory E-Verify in its tracks. At worst, he has given Chairman Camp the sign that that is what he wants. The latter seems plausible because Speaker Boehner told two of our members last fall in separate states that he had no intention of bringing up E-Verify or any other immigration enforcement legislation for a vote until after the 2012 elections.
Public poking by citizens and news media today is exposing a different story, and I am pleased.

Meanwhile, three of the four Republican presidential candidates have called for E-Verify to be made mandatory as part of their security-first approach. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is the only one who has rejected the idea, arguing that it would turn businesses into immigration police forces.
Mr. Beck said Republicans should see the issue as a winner, not a political liability. He said Democrats already have enough ammunition to attack Republicans for their stance on cracking down on illegal immigration, and there is little left for the GOP to lose by pushing for E-Verify.
A Washington Times/JZ Analytics Poll released Monday found that Republican primary voters were more than willing to accept the political price for a get-tough approach.
By nearly 4-to-1, 68 percent to 18 percent, likely voters said the GOP should pursue stricter enforcement even if it would cost Republicans the support of Hispanics. That was true for self-identified Republicans and for independents who planned to vote during the GOP primaries.

What we have been hearing behind the scenes for six months is that Republican leaders won't bring E-Verify to a vote because it would offend Hispanic voters. During more than a week of constant phoning of leaders by grassroots citizens who report back to us what they hear, not a single office has brought up the Hispanic vote issue. That is another victory. It suggests that they don't feel comfortable using that as an excuse in public for why they are keeping hundreds of thousands of American unemployed by not passing mandatory E-Verify.
It's a good thing they didn't claim it because the Times' poll shows even Republican voters don't think fear of Hispanic backlash is justification for keeping Americans out of work. (I have to note that Hispanic voters with especially high unemployment would benefit the fastest and the most by mandatory E-Verify because they disproportionately live and work in proximity to illlegal workers.)

ROY BECK is Founder & CEO of NumbersUSA
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