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    GOP Sells America Down the River

    GOP Sells America Down the River
    December 17, 2015

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    RUSH: The country was just sold down the river again by your very Republican Party.

    I have a headline here from the Washington Times: "White House Declares Total Victory Over GOP in Budget Battle." That headline's a misnomer. There was never a battle. None of this was opposed. The Republican Party didn't stand up to any of it, and the die has been cast for a long time on this. I know many of you are dispirited, depressed, angry, combination of all of that. But, folks, there was no other way this could go. Because two years ago when the Republican Party declared they would never do anything that would shut down the government and they would not impeach Obama, there were no obstacles in Obama's way and there were no obstacles in the way of the Democrat Party.

    When you surrender the power of the purse -- and that's the primary power the House of Representatives has. Not a penny of money can be spent in this country by this government without the House of Representatives authorizing it. Obama can spend all he wants, but if the House doesn't give him the mechanism, he can't spend any of it. But the Republicans squandered that. They gave up the power of the purse. The reason they did that is because for some inexplicable reason, they are literally paranoid and scared to death of even being accused of doing something that would shut down the government.

    So to avoid even the accusation that they were going to or would ever even think of shutting down the government, they signaled that whatever Obama wanted to spend, he would get, because they figured that had less damage to them politically than the allegation that they were shutting down the government. So, very simply, ever since the Republican Party became the party of keeping the government open at all costs, we get bills like this. There's simply no stopping the Democrats. There's no mechanism. Every constitutional mechanism found in the power of the purse, Separation of Powers, the Republican Party years ago gave it away, in total fear of the media.

    Now, there's also a factor that needs to be mentioned, too, and that is that many Republican donors want every bit of this money spent, and they have donated voluminously to key Republicans in order to get the money spent. So it's not all Republican fears. It's not all Republican caving. A lot of it is Republican fealty and loyalty to some of their donors. Some people today looking at this, and this is 2,009 pages. It's said to be a spending bill. Among the things that it does, it fully funds Obamacare.

    It fully funds Planned Parenthood. That, to me, is unforgivable, with everything now known about what goes on behind closed doors at Planned Parenthood, and that the federal government, led by a Republican Party, sees fit to pay for it. It is beyond comprehension, and it is a total squandering of moral authority to fully fund the butchery at Planned Parenthood. This spending bill fully pays for Obama's refugee plans, fully. This spending bill, this budget bill quadruples the number of visas Obama wants for foreign workers. This is even a slap at American union workers. Not the leaders. The union leaders seem to be in favor of it, but blue-collar people, known as working people, have been sold down the river along with everybody else here.

    This spending bill even fully pays for every dime asked for by Obama on all of this idiocy that's tied up into climate change. Everything Obama wanted, everything he asked for, he got. You go down the list of things, it's there.

    And this is causing some people to wonder if they just dreamed all that stuff about Boehner resigning. And then other people are wondering if they even dreamed all that stuff about the Republicans winning the largest number of seats they've had in Congress since the Civil War. We had two midterm elections in 2010 and 2014, which were landslide victories for the Republican Party. The Democrat Party lost over a thousand seats nationwide in just those two elections. People went to the polls in droves wanting exactly what was rubber-stamped last night (or what will be) stopped.

    And instead they showed up in record numbers and they it turned out and they just defeated Democrats down the ballot. In the process, they elected Republicans to stop this. And now the Republicans have the largest number of seats in the House they've had in Congress since the Civil War. And it hasn't made any difference at all. It is as though Nancy Pelosi is still running the House and Harry Reid is still running the Senate. "Betrayed" is not even the word here. What has happened here is worse than betrayal. Betrayal is pretty bad, but it's worse than that.

    This was out-and-out, in-our-face lying, from the campaigns to individual statements made about the philosophical approach Republicans had to all this spending. There is no Republican Party! You know, we don't even need a Republican Party if they're gonna do this. You know, just elect Democrats, disband the Republican Party, and let the Democrats run it, because that's what's happening anyway. And these same Republican leaders doing this can't, for the life of them, figure out why Donald Trump has all the support that he has? They really can't figure this out?

    Repeated stabs in the back like this -- which have been going on for years -- combined with Obama's policy destruction of this country, is what has given rise to Donald Trump. If Donald Trump didn't exist and if the Republican Party actually does want to win someday, they'd have to invent him. It's just mind-boggling when you figure out everything that has been granted Obama. All the money, the tax increases, the Cadillac plans in Obamacare. All kinds of punitive things in Obamacare, delayed yet again so that people will not be made aware of the pain and suffering Obamacare's gonna cause.

    This budget even gives Obamacare cover by delaying some of the most harsh aspects of it. And the reason for that is, delay the harsh aspects and you prevent people from learning what they are, at the same time you get more years for the tentacles of Obamacare to deeply weave themselves into the fabric of society, making repeal of the thing more politically difficult. So you could also say that the Republican budget bill actually improves the odds of Obamacare surviving and growing. You have to look long and hard for this whole thing to find any opposition to anything the Democrat Party wants.

    Jeff Sessions, senator from Alabama, is calling this a betrayal, fully funding the Obama immigration agenda, the climate change agenda, increasing foreign workers. He said, "This is why Trump is now triumphing here and probably will win. The voters have come to believe that their own party's elites are not only uninterested in defending their interests, but -- as with this legislation and fast tracking the president's international trade deal -- Republican voters would not be wrong to conclude that their own Republican leaders are hostile to them, just as Democrat leaders are hostile to Republican voters."

    And as Sessions points out, "This legislation represents a further disenfranchisement of the American voter." Clearly! In the last two midterm elections, the American electorate has stood up and loudly stated, 'No. We don't want this. Stop this." It didn't matter. It's so bad that over at Slate.com they're making excuses for Paul Ryan. I think in some places in the left-wing media, they can't believe the scope of the betrayal. They're feeling a little guilty at how easy this has been. They're feeling a little guilty here. I'm joking, of course. But one of the Salon.com columnists said, "Hey, you know, you guys need to cut Ryan some slack. He was left with a huge mess and not much time to fix it."

    Isn't that what they always said with Boehner? "He was left with a huge mess"? Isn't that what they always say about Obama? "He was left with a huge mess. Man, it was much worse than he even knew. Nobody told him the truth." It seems to be a constant refrain and excuse. "According to Sessions, the American people elected Republicans to the majority in Congress in 2014 as a rejection of the Obama administration's immigration policies," and any number of other things. "'That loyalty has been repaid with betrayal,' he said. ... Sessions added, 'As feared, the effect is to fund the president’s entire immigration agenda.'"

    "Planned Parenthood Unscathed in Spending Bill," from a very happy and cheering TheHill.com. "Planned Parenthood is praising Democrats in Congress after the spending bill released early Wednesday morning spared the organization from cuts. As expected, the spending bill does not defund Planned Parenthood, a clear deal-breaker for Democrats, but the absence of spending cuts is still noteworthy given the intensity of the push to defund the group..." There was never any intensity to... It's what we now know.

    There wasn't any intensity to defund. All there was is just a bunch of words, just a bunch of people standing up saying they were going to. This wouldn't stand. They were gonna lead an effort to defund it. But nobody ever meant it. "Planned Parenthood Vice President Dana Singiser praised congressional Democrats on Wednesday for 'holding the line against these harmful policy riders and cuts to key women's health programs.'" Also from TheHill.com, another reporter cheering as well. "Funds for Obama Climate Deal Survive."

    They were never threatened, never in peril. There wasn't a battle. "Secret Deal Quadruples Foreign Workers -- Chamber of Commerce Backs Guest Worker Program." Translation: More cheap labor will eagerly be brought into the country under a visa program or they will be employed. "Hey, why not, Rush? The unemployment's rate's 5%. We got plenty of room for foreign workers." Right. That, to me... All this Republican campaign stuff going on obfuscating or clouding this a little bit, but that really is the news of the last 12 to 18 hours.

    BREAK TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH :Sanctuary cities, fully funded. All Mideast immigration programs, fully funded. All these things that have been exploited by terrorists.

    Sanctuary cities, fully funded. All refugees, fully funded. The release of criminal aliens, fully funded.

    Everything!

    The Democrat leftist wet dream has just been paid for.

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    I'll have to start listening to Rush.
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    I'm very pleased that Planned Parenthood funding stayed intact. The fluff over Planned Parenthood was based on a fraud, admitted to by the guy who made the false video that Fiorina broadcast but was a lie. Regardless of one's view on abortion, this is a legal right of girls and women, it's settled law and should remain so.

    On immigration, this is the greatest possible let down. Funding Sanctuary Cities in violation of US immigration law. Funding Muslim immigration for no benefit at all. The release of criminal ilegal aliens fully funded. Medicaid for anchor babies fully funded. Immigration levels increased and eligible for welfare fully funded.

    One of these days soon I think people will begin to understand that the "power of the purse" has to be with the American people, not the US Congress, the way it was when our nation was formed, perhaps a little differently than funding solely through tariffs, but with a voluntary tax like the FairTax, not a forced authoritarian mandated evil tax like the income tax.

    People may ask a good question, since how we collect taxes which is what the FairTax system is, a change in the way we collect taxes, not how we spend the money collected, how does the FairTax solve the spending problem?

    It's the power of the purse. When Congress has an income tax that most can not figure out how to legally avoid because it's mandated, which means you don't have a choice to pay or not to pay, making it a very socialist if not communist type of tax system put in place by Democrats in 1913, the people have no power of the purse. What happens with an income tax is either you raise rates high enough to cover the spending or you lower them to get elected or you raise on those you don't think will vote for you and lower them on the ones you hope will, and when there's a shortfall or deficit, you just use the Federal Reserve to issue more money in the form of national debt and force future generations to pay it off, a power the government has whenever it elects to use it by raising income taxes or at some point using its power of apportionment to bill the States for it. I heard today on Fox News that this amount is now $232,000 for every American of all ages, babies, children and adults.

    So how does the FairTax solve the problem? It doesn't solve the existing debt problem at first, what it does solve is the spending problem which stops deficits and stops growing the debt without cuts to spending, it stops deficits by eliminating the need for spending on poverty programs. How you ask?

    Simple.

    1. The FairTax protects our trade and levels the playing field increasing domestic production, creating good high paying jobs, reducing poverty, unemployment, underemployment and working poverty.

    2. The FairTax has a Rebate for US citizens and legal residents, illegal aliens are excluded and ineligible, making it very difficult to impossible for those in the country illegally to undercut American Workers and curbs illegal immigration.

    3. The FairTax immediately increases net expendable income, what people call "take home pay", because it repeals all personal and payroll taxes, plus sends any citizen or legal resident who wants to sign up for it a Rebate which for a family of 4 is worth over $7,000 a year, and rich, middle and low income household are eligible for all citizen and legal resident members of the household, because income is not the criteria, just citizenship and legal residency, with one amount for each adult and another lower amount for each child, whether you actually spend it all on FairTaxes or not. The result is millions will no longer be eligible for welfare benefits because they no longer need them or qualify.

    4. The FairTax creates millions of good paying jobs with great benefits by expanding companies, new businesses and companies who moved offshore who are coming back home to take advantage of the FairTax which does not tax business on anything for anything. All business to business transactions are tax-free exempt transactions which means employers no longer pay any federal income tax or FairTax. The US is now a Tax Haven for business, which are our employers, which now have plenty of money to pay great wages and offer wonderful benefits and hire and plan employee benefits with confidence because their business in the US is trade protected by the FairTax.

    5. The FairTax will return approximately $13 trillion of US capital presently stored offshore to avoid the federal income tax back home where it belongs. It might be more than this, we don't really know for sure but people who track it believe it's around this $13 trillion number. This is investment capital, private capital looking for good safe investments with no income tax. The US under the FairTax is now the home to which this money supply will return which results in lower interest rates and a greater money supply without printing more money through the Federal Reserve.

    6. The FairTax restores liberty and freedom, because it removes the federal income tax code from personal and business decisions and ends 102 years so far of federal manipulation through tax consequences. You're finally free.

    7. The FairTax is a national retail sales tax controlled solely by consumers. When you're happy you spend, when you're not, you don't. When consumers aren't happy they reduce spending, businesses complain to the government "what are you doing, our customers aren't happy and aren't spending", and now the businesses who under the income tax have become a form of enemy are now our best friends and they rush their executives and government affairs people to DC on our behalf to fix the problem. Under the FairTax, businesses are now on our side instead of in bed with corrupt officials for the first time in more than a century.

    Some articles have been written opposing the FairTax claiming it destroys the middle class. How is that possible? How does a tax program that increases net expendable income, brings our industries and good jobs back home,protects our trade, helps stop illegal immigration, returns our capital to our shores, give US back our power of the purse, reducing poverty spending and restores our liberty and freedom destroy the middle class? The FairTax doesn't destroy the middle class, it destroys the lower class by raising it up into the middle class by creating good jobs with benefits for the people in the lower income group who presently can't find a job that pays a sustainable wage they can live on.

    This is how you cut spending naturally in due course by eliminating the problems that create the poverty that generate the need for the welfare spending.

    Best tax and economic development legislation ever presented to the people of the United States.

    FairTax Act of 2015: HR 25 in the US House of Representatives and S 155 in the US Senate.
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    What next, MW? The Communist's Manifesto?

    Honestly. That's shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post


    What next, MW? The Communist's Manifesto?

    Honestly. That's shameful.
    Why is it shameful? Your failure to agree with something doesn't necessarily make it shameful. I've never considered exposing the truth as shameful. If the link I provided didn't meet with your approval, there is plenty of other information out there that will expose the unfair tax plan for what it is. Google is your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Why is it shameful? Your failure to agree with something doesn't necessarily make it shameful. I've never considered exposing the truth as shameful. If the link I provided didn't meet with your approval, there is plenty of other information out there that will expose the unfair tax plan for what it is. Google is your friend.
    It isn't the truth. Not one word of it. That's why it's shameful. Yes, there are plenty of lies about the FairTax put on the Internet by Communists and the Anti-FairTax Lobby. And I believe over the years you've posted every one of them. Yet, you can't articulate one word about the FairTax on your own.

    Pitiful. Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It isn't the truth. Not one word of it. That's why it's shameful. Yes, there are plenty of lies about the FairTax put on the Internet by Communists and the Anti-FairTax Lobby. And I believe over the years you've posted every one of them. Yet, you can't articulate one word about the FairTax on your own.

    Pitiful. Really.
    I can do without the personal insults (we've both been warned about that). As hard as this may be for you to believe, you're not always right and everyone that doesn't agree with you isn't always wrong. The talking points you use over and over again from fair tax.org (space between r & t so website won't link) just don't hold up well under scrutiny. I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. I've proven that fact over and over with immense details and facts that you refuse to acknowledge or accept. Perhaps if you would cease the excessive advertisement of the plan in these forums, I wouldn't feel the need to offer a challenge.

    I'll make you a deal. You quite shoving the unfair tax plan down our throats and I'll quite feeling an obligation to expose the plan for the regressive tax plan it is.

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    I've been calling the guy who replaced "Bonehead" by the moniker "Speaker Paul RINO" and it certainly fits. Sadly, Mr. RINO never had to campaign for the speaker's position; a feckless, panicking GOP came BEGGING for him to take the job. Bonehead has to be laughing at the sheer lunacy of it all. Why, when there were so many able members of Congress, true conservatives, far better qualified?

    The people in the VA 7th District who threw Eric Cantor out must be wondering What TF Hit 'em! Sell-Out Cantor was going to be speaker. Now, we have someone as bad, or worse. And, what's utterly amazing is that Cantor's replacement, David Bratt, isn't bucking Paul RINO. Check the recent Politico item where Bratt covered for Speaker RINO on this deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I can do without the personal insults (we've both been warned about that). As hard as this may be for you to believe, you're not always right and everyone that doesn't agree with you isn't always wrong. The talking points you use over and over again from fair tax.org (space between r & t so website won't link) just don't hold up well under scrutiny. I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. I've proven that fact over and over with immense details and facts that you refuse to acknowledge or accept. Perhaps if you would cease the excessive advertisement of the plan in these forums, I wouldn't feel the need to offer a challenge.

    I'll make you a deal. You quite shoving the unfair tax plan down our throats and I'll quite feeling an obligation to expose the plan for the regressive tax plan it is.
    You can post whatever nonsense link you want MW. And when you post a link calling a piece of legislation in the US Congress sponsored by 74 Republican members of the US House of Representatives and many more who support it but who are not bill sponsors a "fraud" or "unfair", when it's nothing more than a bill to replace the income tax with a sales tax that 45 states have, I'll call it out as the pathetic and pitiful retort that it is.

    Discussing tax legislation that helps us curb illegal immigration and offset the damage of free trade treason is not an "advertisement", it's public service.
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