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    Congress needs to immediately DEFUND all federal tax dollars paid to 501 C 3 "charities" except Medicare and Medicaid. Just stop all this money-making "charity". It's bull. It's evil really, to call yourself a religious charity organization raking in millions by bloating our country with immigrants we can't sustain. It's crazy, it's insanity. Pull the plug on all federal dollars to 501 C 3 "charities", except hospitals.

    Pass the FairTax, this solves this problem and many others with 1 vote in each chamber of Congress and a signature by a President who cares about our nation and people.

    The FairTax Act of 2015: HR 25 in the US House of Representatives and S 155 in the US Senate.
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    Texas AG folds like cheap suit

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    The Texas AG put on a good show, but seems to be working in concert with Obama to allow these unwanted foreigners to enter Texas.

    The fact is, our President is not authorized under the Constitution to compel a state to accept unwanted foreigners. The States have never ceded their original policing powers over immigration, and a power not delegated is a power retained!

    Additionally, the argument that Texas "has made no showing that these refugees pose any threat, much less an imminent one, to the safety or security of Texas residents or any other Americans," is not a legal argument indicating a State must accept them. Every state is free to adopt their own rules in this regard and our federal courts are not authorized to second guess policy decisions made by a state! This rule was confirmed by our very own Supreme Court!

    …..we are not at liberty to second-guess congressional determinations and policy judgments of this order, however debatable or arguably unwise they may be…The wisdom of Congress' action, however, is not within our province to second guess. ELDRED etal. v. ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL (2003)


    Why is the Texas AG folding like a cheap suit?


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    Additionally, the argument that Texas "has made no showing that these refugees pose any threat, much less an imminent one, to the safety or security of Texas residents or any other Americans," is not a legal argument indicating a State must accept them. Every state is free to adopt their own rules in this regard and our federal courts are not authorized to second guess policy decisions made by a state! This rule was confirmed by our very own Supreme Court!
    Exactly. Righto!

    States can refuse to admit immigrants for any reason or no reason at all. Their right, their authority, their power.

    Just BUTT OUT, Feds! This is not and was never your job to admit immigrants let alone push or force them into our states against the will of our states. NEVER. Your job is to prohibit immigration, NOT promote, initiate, perpetuate or license or permit foreign migration into our States. You are doing the complete opposite of what you're supposed to be doing, so STOP IT!
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    From the arguments above, it seems that the federal government doesn't really have the power to admit them, but just for the sake of argument, let's say it does. If states, and even cities, can nullify federal immigration laws to become so-called "sanctuaries" for illegal aliens and states can nullify federal drug laws by "legalizing" a drug like marijuana that is illegal according to federal law, why can't a state nullify federal authority to take in refugees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post
    From the arguments above, it seems that the federal government doesn't really have the power to admit them, but just for the sake of argument, let's say it does. If states, and even cities, can nullify federal immigration laws to become so-called "sanctuaries" for illegal aliens and states can nullify federal drug laws by "legalizing" a drug like marijuana that is illegal according to federal law, why can't a state nullify federal authority to take in refugees?
    Great idea!! State legislatures need to immediately pass laws that refuse all immigration, refugees, green cards, asylum-seekers, illegal aliens, DAPAs, DACA's, all of it. They do that right here right now and the states need to argue their right to do so under Article 1, Section 9, as well as Articles 9 and 10 of the US Constitution.

    States however can not over-ride federal prohibition of immigration and allow immigrants into their state prohibited by the federal government so the states with sanctuary cities are in fact violating the US Constitution, Article 1, Section 9.

    Furthermore, all these "Constitutionalists" who are claiming "religious liberty" under the First Amendment, who harbor, aid and abet and advocate for illegal aliens, they are also violating the US Constitution when they violate US immigration law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post
    From the arguments above, it seems that the federal government doesn't really have the power to admit them, but just for the sake of argument, let's say it does. If states, and even cities, can nullify federal immigration laws to become so-called "sanctuaries" for illegal aliens and states can nullify federal drug laws by "legalizing" a drug like marijuana that is illegal according to federal law, why can't a state nullify federal authority to take in refugees?
    Actually, I believe Congress can admit whom they please, but only in Washington, D.C., where Congress has exclusive power to legislate. However, the surrounding states do not have to accept unwanted foreigners as they have retained their original policing power over immigration, which is a power never delegated to the federal government!


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Actually, I believe Congress can admit whom they please, but only in Washington, D.C., where Congress has exclusive power to legislate. However, the surrounding states do not have to accept unwanted foreigners as they have retained their original policing power over immigration, which is a power never delegated to the federal government!


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    When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like NewYork City?
    Congress does not have the right or authority to admit immigrants, not even into DC, not anywhere, because it has no authority to admit any immigrants.

    Congress has no authority under the US Constitution to admit any immigrants to anywhere, not to a state, not to a territory, not to the District of Columbia. Congress only has the authority to prohibit immigration after the year 1808, not admit it.
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