Thread: illegal immigration

No one talks about the fact that the only jobs here for illegals are farm work.
Illegals are creating jobs and a society for themselves here in America.
Their presence calls for more production, there fore, more workers in order to produce food, housing, schools, medical facilities, cars, prisons, etc, more of everything to meet the increase of 11 million plus Illegals. Which in turn cost the American tax payer. The liability is that they are low wagers earners and pay very little in taxes that benefit the social services that help the poor and elderly Americans. They do not benefit Americans in any way. They are helping themselves to America and the average American is left holding the baggage.
Our need for workers would not be needed if there were not 11million plus Illegals in this country.
Supply and demand created by the Illegals only benefit them and they use it as an excuse to be here. It doesn’t really matter if there is 30 million people in the country or 3 billion, the economy would be the same.
Illegals field workers are benefitting illegal as well as Americans and with the increase of population comes the increase of demand for food and workers. Without illegals the need for food would become less and the need for more farm workers would become less. The economy would adjust to be the same. That goes for any other businesses. Less housing, less cars, less food, etc because of less population. (Example; in Reno, NV the HAWK medical and dental clinic services 95% of it’s clients are Illegals and the employees are spainsh speaking in order to serve those who do not speak english. It become so over crowded that another dental clinic for the children had to be built at expense to the county)
12 million Illegals demand more producers of every thing to meet their demand. So their being here only benefits them and businesses. Their present causes a demand for more everything. America’s demand remains the same no matter if Illegals are here or not.
It is stupid to say the economy is better for Americans now because of Illegals. It has been better in the past without 12 million Illegals. Illegals presence has driven up the price of every thing but wages have fallen or remained the same.
Illegals are more or a liability on the system than an asset and if made legals will be a further liability resulting is destruction of America’s say of life. America do not need illegal workers.

Yes, they do create many of their own jobs. But big business is the culprit here. Without big businesses' desire for cheap (to them) labor, they would not be here to create more jobs.

I do question that even farm jobs need to be filled by illegals. At least to the extent they are now.

First off, many Americans were doing those farm jobs before the illegals came.

Secondly, there are mechanical answers to the farm labor shortage and without the cheap (to employers) illegal labor, there would be more and more mechanical applications invented for farm labor.

For a similar viewpoint, see:

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=38476

No one talks about the fact that the only jobs here for illegals are farm work.
Illegals are creating jobs and a society for themselves here in America.

I don't know exactly what you mean about the only jobs here....only ones they are needed to do? Because they are working everywhere.

And yes...creating jobs but it's basicly for " their society" not the general population.

You're right though. The cost far outweighs the benefit.

Hey, I was just thinking about something. La Razza, LULAC,ACLU and Mecha appear to have a common agenda. That is, control "domination" of the United States by hispanics. President Bush, through Karl Rove, is giving them alot of support. However, I have a feeling that they don't know about the Trilateral Commission's ultimate goal and how they will not have a part in controlling this country. They don't fit into the elite class. Maybe the fact that they are being used should be leaked to them.

President Bush, through Karl Rove, is giving them alot of support. However, I have a feeling that they don't know about the Trilateral Commission's ultimate goal and how they will not have a part in controlling this country. They don't fit into the elite class. Maybe the fact that they are being used should be leaked to them.

I think the Bush family just may be 'one of them'. I agree on the other minions who are doing their bidding.

I am pretty darn sure I don't fit into this elite class either. Neither does 90% of America.

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