Thread: A Chilling History Lesson

A very good friend forwarded this to me today in an email and I thought it worth sharing here because it has a very important historical warning for all of us. Although it was written to address the worldwide rise of religious fanaticism and the tragic potential consequences, take a moment to ponder on how the message applies to the silent invasion of the US the role you may (or may not) be playing in the eventual downfall of our Republic. A glimpse of the past is often-times a window into the future, and it really shouldn't require a lot of analytical skill to see where we are really headed. I hope this post helps to open the eyes of those who are still drowsy and need a little sip of reality to inspire them to action.

A German's Point Of View On Islam

A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II owned
a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German
people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude
toward fanaticism.

"Very few people were true Nazis "he said," but many enjoyed the
return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one
of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the
majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it,
they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had
come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp
and the Allies destroyed my factories."

We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that
Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims
just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be
true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to
make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of
fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.


It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of
50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are
gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is
the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the
fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and
homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the "peaceful
majority", the "silent majority", is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in
peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of
about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists
managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way
across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by
sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it
not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our
powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of
points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their
silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up,
because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find
that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have
begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
Afghanis, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and
many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up
until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay
attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our
way of life.

Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is
serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is
contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.


So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!

Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this - think about it -

and send it on.

(Author Unknown)

First we ignored the illegal Hispanics in this country and it got out of control. And if we are not careful we will have the same problem from the Muslims. If we contiue to ignore the injustes done to us by lifting these people above us and the Islamic community above us we are going to be in trouble. We can't celebrate Christmas or any of our holiays by their name. We have to say holidays. In Il some schools are trying to decide what holiday they will not have because an Islamic person suggested they celbrate rhamadan. Where do you draw the line. It has to be drawn and I am on the side of OUR CULTURE. The government is trying to take anything with God off of our national monuments but building footbaths for Muslims. We need to curb our immigration policies. Many will say that we are being racist and insensitive, however I believe in preserving my country and culture for my children and grandchildren.

I must be living in another world because I just do NOT see any issue whatsoever with our Muslim population. Its like 1% of the total population, the vast majority holds NO sway in any political party. I am not sure I understand the fear regarding muslims. I just don't see it as an issue. If we are frightened of EVERY shadow, then lets hand the government our guns and our rights and be done with it. That is what all this talk is. Having the government 'deal' with all of this stuff.. perhaps it is "this" thought that is just another angle in what you are talking about. Perhaps its this Fear and War mongoring with the neo-cons that is actually the new nazi-fascism vibe. That is also something to be thinking about. To be upfront, I ain't worried about no muslims. I am worried about the Neo-Cons who hijacked our Republican party and the Neo-Libs who hijacked the Democrats... Socialists on the left, Fascists on the right. We are pointing fingers, but what if the 'sleeping terror' that the person is describing in the first story (in the OP's post) is already in place in the government?

Check out Naomi Wolfes video. You will that that perhaps these "scary" boogeymen we create are not "really" the muslims or the illegal immigrants, but those already in power. I mean, you think the OPEN borders 'just happened to happen'. The government is not as stupid as we might think. This 20+million doesn't "just" happen.... as the OP suggests. "before we know it.." I think those open borders was the plan all along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

Check this vide. Open borders, NAU, Patriot Act, Constant wars, the 'muslim enemy' etc... we have so many things to fear and so many things to worry about.... seems like a lot of smoke bombs to what is really going on...

I agree with a lot of what you have referenced BrightNail except for the point on Muslims not being a threat. True enough they are a small percentage of the US population (at least the legal population that gets counted), but the threat exists none-the-less. I'm sure you don't need a science lesson on how much bacteria it takes to contaminate a culture or how little static electricity it takes to destroy a sensitive electronics component. Your concept of "big is dangerous, small is not" doesn't hold water. Less than 20 men killed thousands on 9/11 and I for one won't be overlooking those numbers in this lifetime.

I also haven't figured out where you read into the piece I submitted "That is what all this talk is. Having the government 'deal' with all of this stuff.." I understood the story to be a warning to individuals and society as a whole. Surely no one would put a great deal of faith and trust into our government at this point and I sure as ain't giving up my arms willingly.

Thanks for the plug for Naomi Wolfe. She has a good message but I'm not completely sold on her take either. My belief is that every warning should be accepted as just that, a warning. No one source has all the pieces of the puzzle and everyone who gets all the pieces is not neccessarily capable of putting the puzzle together. I for one don't have all the pieces yet, but the picture is getting pretty clear isn't it?

I dig it... its just another bit of info....

also, part of the issue of these 'extremists" is that they are extreme because we, foreign police, invading and occupying their lands.

I believe there still would be wackos, but part of their extremism is the fact that we are occupying their lands and interfering with their governements and lives. I did not think this way a few months ago, but after a bunch of reading - I never understood nor get the fact the Republicans are suppose to be anti-war.... when we became the government of global takeover and intervention and war, is a new development --- sorta when the neo-cons took over.... CFR, Bliderberg group... what people are not understanding is this is ALL tied together...

Originally Posted by BrightNail

I dig it... its just another bit of info....

also, part of the issue of these 'extremists" is that they are extreme because we, foreign police, invading and occupying their lands.

I believe there still would be wackos, but part of their extremism is the fact that we are occupying their lands and interfering with their governements and lives. I did not think this way a few months ago, but after a bunch of reading - I never understood nor get the fact the Republicans are suppose to be anti-war.... when we became the government of global takeover and intervention and war, is a new development --- sorta when the neo-cons took over.... CFR, Bliderberg group... what people are not understanding is this is ALL tied together...

What a load of BS. Muslims have been slaughtering Christians in N. Africa for a DECADE now. Muslims have been ethnically cleansing Lebanon of all other faiths for perhaps 20 years now. The FIRST genocide of the 20th century was committed by MUSLIMS AGAINST Christians. It's otherwise known as the Armenian Genocide. I'm sorry, but your facile excuses for muslim terrorism ACROSS practically the entire world don't hold water.