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    quote(America is eaten up with traitors and saboteurs in our own Government that are under the full control of foreign powers.)quote

    Sadly I agree never thought I would see this in my lifetime.
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    Hitler'y Clinton and Obama Broke it... they OWN IT From Top To Bottom. Those deaths are a DIRECT Result of Their Actions

    they can try to blame it on the film maker but I beleive this is from a culmanation of events planned and executed by the Obama administration

    Clintons bloody fingers are all over this one as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7 View Post
    Hitler'y Clinton and Obama Broke it... they OWN IT From Top To Bottom. Those deaths are a DIRECT Result of Their Actions

    they can try to blame it on the film maker but I beleive this is from a culmanation of events planned and executed by the Obama administration

    Clintons bloody fingers are all over this one as well
    I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Is this the False flag or early "October Surprise" that will get Barry re-elected? Or will this be the catalyst to WW3 that will get Barry re-elected? Hope not!
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    September 15, 2012 4:00 A.M.
    Disgrace in Benghazi
    And a dying superpower’s blundering response.
    By Mark Steyn/National Review


    So, on a highly symbolic date, mobs storm American diplomatic facilities and drag the corpse of a U.S. ambassador through the streets. Then the president flies to Vegas for a fundraiser. No, no, a novelist would say; that’s too pat, too neat in its symbolic contrast. Make it Cleveland, or Des Moines.

    The president is surrounded by delirious fanbois and fangurls screaming “We love you,” too drunk on his celebrity to understand this is the first photo-op in the aftermath of a national humiliation. No, no, a filmmaker would say; too crass, too blunt. Make them sober, middle-aged midwesterners, shocked at first, but then quiet and respectful.

    The president is too lazy and cocksure to have learned any prepared remarks or mastered the appropriate tone, notwithstanding that a government that spends more money than any government in the history of the planet has ever spent can surely provide him with both a speechwriting team and a quiet corner on his private wide-bodied jet to consider what might be fitting for the occasion. So instead he sloughs off the words, bloodless and unfelt: “And obviously our hearts are broken . . . ” Yeah, it’s totally obvious.

    And he’s even more drunk on his celebrity than the fanbois, so in his slapdashery he winds up comparing the sacrifice of a diplomat lynched by a pack of savages with the enthusiasm of his own campaign bobbysoxers. No, no, says the Broadway director; that’s too crude, too ham-fisted. How about the crowd is cheering and distracted, but he’s the president, he understands the gravity of the hour, and he’s the greatest orator of his generation, so he’s thought about what he’s going to say, and it takes a few moments but his words are so moving that they still the cheers of the fanbois, and at the end there’s complete silence and a few muffled sobs, and even in party-town they understand the sacrifice and loss of their compatriots on the other side of the world.

    But no, that would be an utterly fantastical America. In the real America, the president is too busy to attend the security briefing on the morning after a national debacle, but he does have time to do Letterman and appear on a hip-hop radio show hosted by “The Pimp with a Limp.” In the real State Department, the U.S. embassy in Cairo is guarded by Marines with no ammunition, but they do enjoy the soft-power muscle of a Foreign Service officer, one Lloyd Schwartz, tweeting frenziedly into cyberspace (including a whole chain directed at my own Twitter handle, for some reason) about how America deplores insensitive people who are so insensitively insensitive that they don’t respectfully respect all religions equally respectfully and sensitively, even as the raging mob is pouring through the gates.

    When it comes to a flailing, blundering superpower, I am generally wary of ascribing to malevolence what is more often sheer stupidity and incompetence. For example, we’re told that, because the consulate in Benghazi was designated as an “interim facility,” it did not warrant the level of security and protection that, say, an embassy in Scandinavia would have. This seems all too plausible — that security decisions are made not by individual human judgment but according to whichever rule-book sub-clause at the Federal Agency of Bureaucratic Facilities Regulation it happens to fall under. However, the very next day the embassy in Yemen, which is a permanent facility, was also overrun, as was the embassy in Tunisia the day after. Look, these are tough crowds, as the president might say at Caesar’s Palace. But we spend more money on these joints than anybody else, and they’re as easy to overrun as the Belgian consulate.

    As I say, I’m inclined to be generous, and put some of this down to the natural torpor and ineptitude of government. But Hillary Clinton and General Martin Dempsey are guilty of something worse, in the secretary of state’s weirdly obsessive remarks about an obscure film supposedly disrespectful of Mohammed and the chairman of the joint chiefs’ telephone call to a private citizen asking him if he could please ease up on the old Islamophobia.

    Forget the free-speech arguments. In this case, as Secretary Clinton and General Dempsey well know, the film has even less to do with anything than did the Danish cartoons or the schoolteacher’s teddy bear or any of the other innumerable grievances of Islam. The 400-strong assault force in Benghazi showed up with RPGs and mortars: That’s not a spontaneous movie protest; that’s an act of war, and better planned and executed than the dying superpower’s response to it. Secretary Clinton and General Dempsey are, to put it mildly, misleading the American people when they suggest otherwise.

    One can understand why they might do this, given the fiasco in Libya. The men who organized this attack knew the ambassador would be at the consulate in Benghazi rather than at the embassy in Tripoli. How did that happen? They knew when he had been moved from the consulate to a “safe house,” and switched their attentions accordingly. How did that happen? The United States government lost track of its ambassador for ten hours. How did that happen? Perhaps, when they’ve investigated Mitt Romney’s press release for another three or four weeks, the court eunuchs of the American media might like to look into some of these fascinating questions, instead of leaving the only interesting reporting on an American story to the foreign press.

    For whatever reason, Secretary Clinton chose to double down on misleading the American people. “Libyans carried Chris’s body to the hospital,” said Mrs. Clinton. That’s one way of putting it. The photographs at the Arab TV network al-Mayadeen show Chris Stevens’s body being dragged through the streets, while the locals take souvenir photographs on their cell phones. A man in a red striped shirt photographs the dead-eyed ambassador from above; another immediately behind his head moves the splayed arm and holds his cell-phone camera an inch from the ambassador’s nose. Some years ago, I had occasion to assist in moving the body of a dead man: We did not stop to take photographs en route. Even allowing for cultural differences, this looks less like “carrying Chris’s body to the hospital” and more like barbarians gleefully feasting on the spoils of savagery.

    In a rare appearance on a non-showbiz outlet, President Obama, winging it on Telemundo, told his host that Egypt was neither an ally nor an enemy. I can understand why it can be difficult to figure out, but here’s an easy way to tell: Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of Islam, said some years ago that America risked being seen as harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend. At the Benghazi consulate, the looters stole “sensitive” papers revealing the names of Libyans who’ve cooperated with the United States. Oh, well. As the president would say, obviously our hearts are with you.

    Meanwhile, in Pakistan, the local doctor who fingered bin Laden to the Americans sits in jail. In other words, while America’s clod vice president staggers around pimping limply that only Obama had the guts to take the toughest decision anyone’s ever had to take, the poor schlub who actually did have the guts, who actually took the tough decision in a part of the world where taking tough decisions can get you killed, languishes in a cell because Washington would not lift a finger to help him.

    Like I said, no novelist would contrast Chris Stevens on the streets of Benghazi and Barack Obama on stage in Vegas. Too crude, too telling, too devastating.


    Disgrace in Benghazi - Mark Steyn - National Review Online
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    Interesting take by Debbie Schussel.

    September 16, 2012, - 4:23 am
    Does It Matter That Murdered Amb Chris Stevens Was Gay? Only If You Pander to Islam

    By Debbie Schlussel

    Many readers have been sending me reports that murdered U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens was gay. The website Hillbuzz (a pro-Hillary Clinton/anti-Obama site) posted the news and photos, such as the one below, of Stevens with one of his alleged boyfriends–the boyfriend posted the pics on his Facebook page. I’m amazed at how many conservatives have e-mailed me and/or posted commentary elsewhere about how “inappropriate” it was for Barack Obama to send a gay man as a U.S. Ambassador to a Muslim country. Huh? Why should we give a crap what Muslims think about gays? And why should we pander to what they demand? Heck, if I were Prez, I’d send gays, strippers, and Playboy centerfolds as U.S. Ambassadors to every single Muslim nation (if I even sent any of these places ambassadors at all, since we know ambassadors are in these countries strictly to kiss the asses of Third World savages and pretend that they’re actually a civilization; oh, and to give them visas to come to America and disappear on American soil to do who knows what). Next, you’ll be telling me that it’s “inappropriate” to send Christians and women to these countries because Muslims hate them, too. And forget about the Jews. Are you kidding me? This is your excuse for why Muslims were right to murder this guy? (In other gay-related news in the everyday world of non-stop Muslim violence, gay porn star Tim Dax says he was duped into starring in “Innocence of Muslims,” the anti-Mohammed movie being used as a phony excuse for the Muslim violence that Muslims engage in, movie or no movie.)

    I wonder if Stevens was openly gay, and I bet he was not, since we’ve heard little about it. I doubt the Muslims who murdered him had a clue about this guy. They only knew that he was the U.S. Ambassador. They didn’t know, for example, that he’d dedicated his life to putting Islamo-savages like this into power and wanted to be the first U.S. Ambassador in decades to Iran. They also probably had no clue that this far-left State Department careerist was very pro-Palestinian, very anti-Israel, and is now being mourned by P.L.O. terrorists. And they–the Muslims who murdered Stevens–probably hadn’t a clue that he was gay. And like most gays, he was moronically in support of the one culture around the world–ISLAM–that executes gays and severely oppresses the few gays that it doesn’t murder. Like most gays, he was against the one country and people in the Middle East that treats gays better than anywhere in the world, the one country and people that gives gays more rights than anywhere in the West: ISRAEL. Yup, Chris Stevens was a dhimmi member of what we call, “The Purple (or is that Lavender?) Jihad” . . . just like American Taliban John Walker Lindh’s dad. There’s a reason why they don’t call Benghazi, “Ben-gay-zi”: the cretins Chris Stevens championed to power made sharia the law of the land and homosexuality punishable by death–not even the sex acts, just the fact that someone is gay (even without being publicly so), is grounds for execution in Chris Stevens’ “new and improved” Libya.

    So, frankly, I couldn’t care less that Barack Obama sent a gay to a Muslim country to be U.S. Ambassador. (If he and Hillary refused to send someone to a Muslim country as an Ambassador because that person was gay–and I’ll bet that’s happened–then, it would be a big story to me, since we know Obama is a complete fraud and hypocrite on the issue of gays and gay marriage.) I care only that Stevens was a hypocritical gay–like most gays–who worked to put in power those that would murder him if they knew he was a homosexual. That’s not the reason they did kill him. They took his life because he was an American (if nominally so, since he was a far leftist who worked against American interests in the Middle East). I care only that he was a gay who was vehemently against gay-friendly Israel and staunchly on the side of “let’s murder the gays” Palestinians. I care that he was a gay only because–like most gay activists around America who constantly attack Christians and their churches for opposing gay marriage but say zilch about mosques and Muslims who oppose it just as much–he kowtowed to and gushed over the one religion that actively beheads people like him for the kind of sex they have and who they have it with: ISLAM. That is the only reason his sexual preference is relevant. NOT because we need to give Muslims what they demand. That’s what we’ve been doing far too much of in the last 11 years since 9/11, and look where it’s gotten us: Muslims attacking us around the world non-stop.

    For the record, I oppose gay marriage (which is an entirely different issue). But I have no problem with sending gays to Muslim countries as ambassadors. We need to be as in your face with Muslims about Western culture and freedom as we can be. Being against Obama shouldn’t kill your brain cells and take you to the point of siding with and wanting to appease Muslims on social issues. That’s what Dinesh D’Souza (who said America deserved 9/11 because Muslims have a right to hate us over the gays) and blind, stupid partisans do.

    It’s not what America does. Not what America should do if it wants to survive.

    Does It Matter That Murdered Amb Chris Stevens Was Gay? Only If You Pander to Islam

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