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    Colombia Free Trade Agreement - Anyone following progress?

    Just curious.

    I was following this a little online via CSpan and see it being debated on the floor (US House). Some intense bickering back-forth going on. It appears Bush and the Repubs that want to side with him on this are going down.
    They aren't going to get the votes to rubber-stamp Bush's wishes (for a change).

    Oregon Rep. DeFazio gave a GREAT speech on the floor about 10 minutes ago that just put the hammer to the 'free traders' and did a good job in sticking up for American workers. If I can find a YouTube of this later, I'll be happy to include a link up here too. Highly recommended.
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    Ya thats what it sounds like, not going to get it. I just love it when Bush does not get what he wants, you can just see he is so ticked off!!
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    Success! CAFTA derailed.

    Dems engineered the move by modifying the original rules governing Fast-Track authority.

    Final vote: 224 vs 195.
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    Phred does this mean no more fast track authority?
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    SOSAD - Oooh, that's a great question. Short answer: Not sure.

    They pulled this off by adding or changing an original provision of the law dealing with Fast-Track itself. So, for this particular case, for sure that's true. I'm not 100% certain, but by the sounds of the debate (I tuned in late, to be sure...), I think your presumption is correct. The US House (the Dems, in particular) are [re]asserting their authority to establish and govern trade policy and to downplay the Executive's input in establishing policy.

    About 10 Dems voted against the method used here (to derail Fast-Track), and about 2-3 Repubs voted for it. So, it was almost entirely a party-line vote.

    Actually, it might appear rather minor in the larger view of things, but this is the beginning of a resurgence in a thing called democracy again. Lord, please usher in the end of the Boosh administration. America can't wait. No more imperial Presidencies for America - ever again.
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    Thanks Phred sorry I missed it but am hopful we are correct in our assumptson because that would be really great news!!
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    Hhmm, I thought that fast-track was a temporary measure whose life had already ended.....
    Serve Bush with his letter of resignation.

    See you at the signing!!

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    OK, I have a few more details...

    Apparently, what the Dems in the House did, was to include a special amendment or rule that essentially 'voids' the existing time limit which is in effect by default with respect to Fast-Track. So... the net effect, is that the time line goes past the standard 90 day limit, and there have been and as far as I know, are no votes scheduled to be done on CAFTA.

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    Repubs that sided with Dem majority in this procedure include:
    (partial): Jones NC, Goode VA, Paul TX.

    Dems that sided with the majority of Repubs AGAINST the procedure:
    (partial) Cuellar, Bean, Boyd, Boren, Cooper, Lampson, Hill, Cramer,
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    Good news!! Thanks for the up date Phred....I like the score!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhredE

    Repubs that sided with Dem majority in this procedure include:
    (partial): Jones NC, Goode VA, Paul TX.

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    Yes. For those that refuse to believe that Paul isn't an open borders guy, note that he opposed both NAFTA and CAFTA.

    God, Bush is a moron. How can he be so clueless about the state of the country we the people actually live in?
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