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    The Democrats just fell for Trump's Russian email-hack bait

    The Democrats just fell for Trump's Russian email-hack bait

    Jake Novak | @jakejakeny
    7 Hours AgoCNBC.com

    Grand Theft Convention.

    No, that's not a new video game. But it is what we just saw Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump do to the Democrats and Hillary Clinton, and the Democrats and Hillary Clinton are helping him do it!

    During about an hour-long news conference earlier Wednesday, Trump was asked repeatedly about allegations that the Russian government is behind the hacked and leaked Democratic National Committee's emails that embarrassed the party on the eve of their national convention in Philadelphia. Trump quickly pivoted to also discussing Clinton's private email-server controversy and the 30,000-plus emails the former Secretary of State had deleted from her private server under questionable explanations and circumstances.

    Advantage Trump.

    Then came the money quote, or the bait, when he said: "Russia, if you're listening,I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing; I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

    That comment was sure to grab headlines all on its own, but then the Clinton campaign incredibly took the bait and had a top policy advisor respond with this statement: "This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent."

    Advantage Trump.

    Yep, the Clinton team actually said that. Instead of ignoring Trump's already deft stealing of the headlines away from their convention, the campaign hyped the distraction even further. Sure, they meant to make Trump out to be some kind of dangerous traitor. And Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller has indeed issued a series of Twitter statements insisting Trump did not literally ask Russia to commit espionage. But the real result is that the words "Hillary Clinton," "emails," "hacking," "espionage," and "national security" are back in the headlines again.

    Instead of ignoring the story or simply scoffing at the obvious distracting attack, the Clinton campaign has fallen into the same kind of trap all those Republican candidates Trump defeated in the primaries fell for: misdirection. Most of the news media seems to have fallen for it, too, as the tone of most of the stories covering Trump's comments seem to indicate this could be the serious gaffe everyone was expecting Trump to make in this election.

    Trump's ability to steal headlines with outrageous comments and survive the process is well-documented, but no one seems to have come up with an antidote for it. And, as for trying to make Russia into some kind of villain here and thus tainting Trump for any connection to that country or it's leader Vladimir Putin, ask Mitt Romney how much the voters care about Russia. He found out the answer the hard way in 2012, didn't he?

    And guess what no one is talking about right now? All those "historic" stories about Clinton being the first woman to win a major party nomination are off the news sites now. Major lead-up stories to President Obama's big speech at the convention on Wednesday night are almost non-existent now. And no one is talking about Clinton running mate Tim Kaine's speech tonight at all.

    Advantage Trump.

    A lot of Clinton supporters and even some more objective observers might think that Trump's theft of the attention isn't all that great for his campaign. But those people are making a mistake that plagues so many people who follow elections. They forget that emotions are more powerful than facts in politics and the best persuaders play on our emotions. So speaking of those emotions, are you personally scared of Russia at all right now? You and Mitt Romney already knew the answer was "no."

    And in the emotions game, you can't win without getting our attention first. Is Hillary Clinton or her campaign capable or even willing to do the things that could garner a similar amount of attention? So far, all we know is her team is capable of helping Trump shine more of a light on himself. No wonder he's ahead in the polls despite being massively outspent on advertising by Hillary Clinton.

    Advantage Trump.

    So again, what we're witnessing here is a presidential candidate stealing the other party's thunder just when it needs your attention the most.

    Grand Theft Convention isn't a game, it's the real thing. And Trump just won it.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/the-d...ommentary.html
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    That's our guy!!

    The Smart One. The one you'd want negotiating with the Russians. The one you'd want negotiating with the Congress. The one you'd want negotiating with Mexico and our Multi-National Corporations. We need The Smart One this time. The One who knows how to win the day, win the vote, win the deal, win for our country.

    VOTE DONALD J TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!

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    If Clinton claims the 33,000 e-mails missing were all personal, this would not be treasonous at all. Clinton insists the lost ones are personal so it should have no bearing on national security, right? In fact, it is not a secret that foreign governments like China and Russia are behind some of the top hackers in the world. Unfortunately, without the hacking of the DNC, we would still have Wasserman Schultz as chairwoman of the DNC. It also reveals the stupidity of Clinton to be using an unsecured server in her home to conduct business as Secretary of State. While Trump may have inadvertently stumbled across this brewing fiasco, the real focus should be these two points:

    1. The 33,000 emails Trump suggested they look for are personal in nature according to Clinton which changes the category of the offense of the request (even though later his team insisted he was suggesting this jokingly), and
    2. The crime of having a US Secretary of State run her business through an unauthorized and unsecured server in her home. She is unknowingly showing the playbook to all the world if it gets hacked, that is treasonous by stupidity or perhaps it was done on purpose.
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    Perhaps a lot of those "personal" emails where actually business deals for the clinton fdtn.

    A worker already stated on many days all her workers were working on the fdtn with letterheads, envelopes etc, Those emails might disclose how much of our paid time she & staff spent on acquiring donations and could lead to what went with those donations in favors. Plus the movie states only 10% went to the fdtn.
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    MSM: Trump is in cahoots with Russia.

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    But the truth is, Obama and Russia seem to be conspiring as proven by THIS VIDEO starring Obama and the former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev

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    80% of green energy money taxed away from hard working American Citizens WENT TO the Hillary Clinton / Obama Administration’s donors!
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    Someone should disclose the relationship between the Clintons and Russia. They helped a Russian concern secure a uranium mine in I believe Canada. That is far more powerful and dangerous than hacking a few email accounts.
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    Americans in all levels of business, government and society need to understand the very simple proven fact that nothing you put in an email is secure. So if you are sending information that you don't want to be subject to hackers, do not send the information in an email. This is why our government has couriers, protected information policies, classified information policies, US mail service, private mail service, and yes, TELEPHONES!

    People who conduct important business through emails instead of through personal contact and secure mail services are stupid lazy people, because it takes a great deal more effort to speak with someone or or to compose an actual correspondence than it does to send some quip on an email or in a text.

    It should be noted that The Smart One, the one we need and who many of US want to be the next President, Donald J Trump, has never ever had an email account. He doesn't use email. He never has. He picks up the phone or goes to a meeting or composes a letter to communicate. Yes, he Twitters and Facebooks during the campaign and may use these social media outlets to get information to voters and the public, but Donald Trump never uses email for business or personal matters, never has, and I hope never will. Emails are not a secure environment for important information of any kind.

    TRUMP NEVER USES EMAIL!

    TRUMP IS THE SMART ONE!

    SAVE AMERICA! SAVE OUR INFORMATION!

    VOTE DONALD J TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!
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    Trump walks back email hack comments, but damage lingers


    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politics/donald-trump-russia-hacking-sarcastic/



    Trump claims sarcasm, but damage on email hack lingers


    CNN‎ - 4 mins ago

    (CNN) Donald Trump said Thursday that he was being sarcastic when he appeared to ...
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    He was being sarcastic because in his statement he makes the sarcastic comment about the press rewarding Russia for releasing the emails if they have them when of course the Media would attack and condemn Russia like they're doing now.

    The Media and the Democrats are really very stupid. They have no problem at all with using private email servers for official government business that can be hacked by anyone from anywhere and obviously have been, yet they treat someone who says to whoever may have Hillary's deleted emails to release them, a traitor.

    That's just stupidity on the grandest of scale. Unprecedented really.

    VOTE FOR THE SMART ONE!

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