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    Democrats roll out their big border security package - featuring an icebreaker

    Democrats roll out their big border security package - featuring an icebreaker for the Arctic Circle

    Very, very, concerned about border security - in the Arctic.


    February 2, 2019
    By Monica Showalter

    The border is in emergency. Latest news, a gargantuan fentanyl bust at the border, showing how dangerous the tide of illegally procured opiates is. At least three huge caravans of illegal immigrants, totalling more than 12,500 uneducated, unskilled, Central Americans, are about to roll in. President Trump has shown a willingness to actually shut the government down in a desperate bid to get a handle on the free-for-all engulfing the U.S. southern border.
    And now Democrats have presented their big border security counter-offer.
    With pork. For their buddies. As they always do.
    Breitbart News' Joel Pollak reports that their big $8 billion rollout for border security features ... an icebreaker. For the U.S. and Canadian northern border:
    Democrats unveiled their proposal for addressing the crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border this week, and it includes funding for a new polar icebreaker for the U.S. Coast Guard.
    The proposal, unveiled Wednesday at the first meeting of the conference committee to negotiate a bipartisan solution, was presented by Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA), and is the Democratic Party’s official position.
    The icebreaker offer will cost anywhere from $700 million to $1 billion, depending on how many are bought. (The U.S. seems to get wholesale rates for buying in bulk.) With a total offer reportedly maybe totaling around $8 billion according to some scattered news reports, that's going to take a chunk.
    With the southern border in crisis, leave it to the Democrats to focus on what's going on at Alaska's northern coast.
    Lotta drugs and illegals rolling in that way, right. Lotta security to worry about up there.
    Now, far be it from me to say the U.S. doesn't need an icebreaker. It does. The Russians are going wild with their own icebreakers in a bid to take over the Arctic Circle. It is a strategic issue. It's important. But it's not a border security issue.
    What it is, is changing the subject.
    They'll pay for anything so long as it's not a wall. Yet they want credit for walls, apparently knowing how important it is to the public. McClatchy has an excellent news story about how Democrats are calling their border measures, which don't include walls, walls.
    Jim Clyburn wants to call his border security plan a wall, even though it’s really not.
    Clyburn, the third-ranking House Democrat, is proposing what he calls a “smart wall,” a border security strategy that uses technology, not concrete.
    The South Carolina congressman explained his “wall” would involve drones, scanners, and sensors “to create a technological barrier too high to climb over, too wide to go around, and too deep to burrow under.”
    His terminology matters because Democrats have signaled they’re willing to make a deal on border security that, at least rhetorically, would include some sort of barrier.
    They just need to label their plan carefully, and finding the right words and tone is going to be a major theme as congressional negotiators continue to seek a deal next week.
    In other words, they want credit for a wall with the public, but they don't want an actual wall. Drones, scanners and sensors are good for intelligence-gathering, but they sure as heck aren't going to stop anyone from entering. And an icebreaker up north sure does beef the money to be spent up, so as to appear 'serious' but it does utterly nothing about the actual crisis supposedly being addressed.
    And it's accompanied by Democrats doing what they always do, which is rewarding their cronies. According to the New York Times:
    Democrats also insisted on their own priorities beyond homeland security. They proposed new funding to improve Customs and Border Protection’s care for migrants in the agency’s custody, expanding an “alternatives to detention” program at Immigration and Customs Enforcement to keep families together while reducing the number of ICE detention beds and requiring more frequent detention-facility inspections.
    That's lots of money for social services workers and ACORN-like NGOs with activist sidelines - read: electing Democrats. And it's lots of incentive for more migrants to immigrate here illegally. They've got an illegal immigrant-industrial complex to support, and they want to shower it with more money.
    None of this is border security because none of it keeps illegals and criminals on the southern border actually out.

    Trump should take the icebreaker, turn down pork for NGOs incentivizing more illegal immigration, and just tell the Democrats to heck with their stupid games. And he should make what's going on clear in the State of the Union. The nation is under seige. It's time to declare an emergency and just build the wall.

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    these people are Criminally Insane and have to be removed from Office
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    Yep, it's why I call them DemoQuacks. Unfortunately, the House members were all just elected and re-elected by a massive 9 million voter margin during the November 6, 2018 mid-terms so I don't see them going anywhere, any time soon. Very bleak situation for the United States and American people.

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    Pelosi on Border Deal: 'There Will be Sizable Funding for Food, Clothing, Medical Care for Immigrants'

    By Melanie Arter | January 30, 2019 | 8:29 PM EST

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    (CNSNews.com) - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that congressional conferees working on a border security deal agree that there should be “sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants,” as well as funding for more judges to adjudicate immigration cases, and sending taxpayer money to countries in the northern triangle to “alleviate” the conditions there that made them flee.

    “We’re hoping that we can find common ground as soon as possible so that we can not only meet our responsibility to protect our border, to treat people coming here with dignity and respect but also to keep government open. Some of the things that we have in there I think will be very acceptable, goes on both sides of the ledger,” she said in a speech to the annual president’s conference of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities.


    “We both care, all of us on either side of the wall question -- but all care about treating the people who come, so there will be sizable funding for food, clothing, medical care for immigrants coming across the border so we don’t have people dying in our custody - children. There’ll be sizable funding for additional judges to more quickly adjudicate these cases so that it doesn’t become, well, they’re here such a long time. Well, it’s because we have such a backlog too, so we’ll have that,” she said.

    “There’ll be funding to send money to the countries where most of these people are coming from - the northern triangle - to try to alleviate some of the conditions that have exacerbated the situation there, to mitigate for the horror that some of them face,” Pelosi said.

    She said if they can solve some of the problems illegal immigrants are having at home, “then people can stay home.”

    “They come here, because they have no choice. It’s just a matter of life or death or danger for their families,” Pelosi said. She added that “there are other areas where we can find common ground, but those three are very personal in terms of the adjudication of the case, the care and feeding of them coming, and trying to help them stay at home.”

    Pelosi said everyone has the obligation to treat people with respect. She quoted the Bible, saying, “When people talk about and the gospel of Matthew as being an inspiration to so many of us - ‘when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was naked, you clothed me. When I was homeless, you sheltered me. When I was in prison, you visited me.’ I always want to remind them that the rest of that gospel is the converse.

    “ ‘When I was hungry, you didn’t feed me.’ See because at that date, God separates the people - when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was hungry, you didn’t feed me. When I was homeless, you didn’t shelter me.’ And that second part of it I think is very important for us all to remember, because the responsibility challenge is there both to respond positively, but not to respond negatively,” the speaker said.

    “And I can’t find it in the Bible, but I quote it all the time, and I keep reading and reading the Bible. I know it’s there some place. It’s supposed to be in Isaiah, but I heard bishop say, ‘to minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’ It’s there somewhere in some words or another, but certainly, the spirit of it is there and that we all have a responsibility to act upon our beliefs and the dignity and worth of every person,” she added.



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    What? Oh good lord, she thinks she's Mother Teresa. She's gone batty in the brain. It's over for her. She doesn't need a seat on a military plane to Afghanistan, oh for heaven's sakes, no no no, she needs a nice soft cushion in a nice comfy chair in a small quiet cell in a Loony Bin.
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    Jim Clyburn wants to call his border security plan a wall, even though it’s really not.
    Clyburn, the third-ranking House Democrat, is proposing what he calls a “smart wall,” a border security strategy that uses technology, not concrete.

    The South Carolina congressman explained his “wall” would involve drones, scanners, and sensors “to create a technological barrier too high to climb over, too wide to go around, and too deep to burrow under.”

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